COPR and coronavirus

[Craigcaeiro]

Hi guys our Cope and visa expires on the 13th of April and our tickets are booked for 31st March but now that the new bans are in place and we can’t fly we too used the web form just now to mail n find out whether they will give an extension.
i wanted to know what is the number that you’ll call the CBSA or the immigration office. We are from Mumbai India. Thanks in advance

 

[ryeCatcher]

Yes, I will call and share here. What you shared from twitter does not seem accurate to me, the guy just mentioned briefly mentioned flight from the US, just did not specify that only US citizens can enter Canada. SO, let us call tomorrow and clarify, we should call Canadian border directly.

That guy is the transportation minister, was also retweeted by the PMs twitter.
He not only mentions flights from US but clearly mentions "foreign nationals coming from the US"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1239643755487137793

But yes I agree it is still unclear. If the situation becomes clear by tomorrow that it does not apply to foreign nationals in the US, I will probably take a flight to Canada tomorrow from the US since it starts from 12 noon Wednesday the 18th.

 

[icanh]

Found this on their website: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/service-delivery/coronavirus/permanent-residence.html#Approved_permanent_residence

Direct quote below:

Approved permanent residence applications (COPR and PRV)
Permanent residence applicants who are in possession of a confirmation of permanent residence (COPR) and permanent resident visa (PRV) and inform us, by submitting a web form to IRCC, that they are unable to travel within the validity of their documentation should be processed as follows:

• Valid COPR and PRV: In an effort to reduce the number of cancelled COPRs and PRVs, a note should be placed in the file explaining that the applicant is unable to travel, and the file should be brought forward to the expiration date of the COPR and PRV. If the applicant informs IRCC that they can travel prior to the COPR and PRV expiration, they are encouraged to use their existing COPR and PRV to land.
• Expired COPR and PRV: If the applicant informs IRCC via the web form that they were unable to travel after the expiration of their COPR and PRV, or if they were unable to travel prior to expiration, officers are to re-open the application, and it should be brought forward for review in 90 days.

Re-opened applications
Approved applications can be re-opened in GCMS by cancelling the COPR and PRV and removing the final decision.

When to review a re-opened application
Once the applicant informs IRCC via the web form that they are able to travel, a re-opened application may be re-approved provided that the applicant and their family members, whether accompanying or not, have valid immigration medical examinations, criminal and security checks and passports.

If the 60-day waiting period elapses and the applicant has not informed us that they are able to travel, a note should be placed in the application, and it should be brought forward for review for an additional 60 days.

 

[niko80]

That guy is the transportation minister, was also retweeted by the PMs twitter.
He not only mentions flights from US but clearly mentions "foreign nationals coming from the US"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1239643755487137793

But yes I agree it is still unclear. If the situation becomes clear by tomorrow that it does not apply to foreign nationals in the US, I will probably take a flight to Canada tomorrow from the US since it starts from 12 noon Wednesday the 18th.

In that case, if only US citizens are allowed, I just wonder why you are not interested in extending COPR? If borders are closed COPR extension will not be an issue? What is expiry date of your COPR?

 

[niko80]

Found this on their website: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/service-delivery/coronavirus/permanent-residence.html#Approved_permanent_residence

Direct quote below:

Approved permanent residence applications (COPR and PRV)
Permanent residence applicants who are in possession of a confirmation of permanent residence (COPR) and permanent resident visa (PRV) and inform us, by submitting a web form to IRCC, that they are unable to travel within the validity of their documentation should be processed as follows:

• Valid COPR and PRV: In an effort to reduce the number of cancelled COPRs and PRVs, a note should be placed in the file explaining that the applicant is unable to travel, and the file should be brought forward to the expiration date of the COPR and PRV. If the applicant informs IRCC that they can travel prior to the COPR and PRV expiration, they are encouraged to use their existing COPR and PRV to land.
• Expired COPR and PRV: If the applicant informs IRCC via the web form that they were unable to travel after the expiration of their COPR and PRV, or if they were unable to travel prior to expiration, officers are to re-open the application, and it should be brought forward for review in 90 days.

Re-opened applications
Approved applications can be re-opened in GCMS by cancelling the COPR and PRV and removing the final decision.

When to review a re-opened application
Once the applicant informs IRCC via the web form that they are able to travel, a re-opened application may be re-approved provided that the applicant and their family members, whether accompanying or not, have valid immigration medical examinations, criminal and security checks and passports.

If the 60-day waiting period elapses and the applicant has not informed us that they are able to travel, a note should be placed in the application, and it should be brought forward for review for an additional 60 days.

This is just for the date before 16th. From 16th situation is different.

 

[ryeCatcher]

In that case, if only US citizens are allowed, I just wonder why you are not interested in extending COPR? If borders are closed COPR extension will not be an issue? What is expiry date of your COPR?

COPR expires in June.
Would prefer to get it out of the way if possible, have some medical procedure planned here in the US for May (assuming that does not get postponed as well). Would have to delay that to redo medical etc.

 

[niko80]

COPR expires in June.
Would prefer to get it out of the way if possible, have some medical procedure planned here in the US for May (assuming that does not get postponed as well). Would have to delay that to redo medical etc.

OK, your COPR is fresh, they would not renew it.

 

[icanh]

This is just for the date before 16th. From 16th situation is different.

How is this different from before 16th to after 16th? The only difference is just that more people are affected (versus just people from South Korea, Iran and China.

 

[niko80]

How is this different from before 16th to after 16th? The only difference is just that more people are affected (versus just people from South Korea, Iran and China.

Border is closed, so you can not get in.

 

[icanh]

Border is closed, so you can not get in.

I am aware of that. It still applies. If you are unable to fly before your COPR expires, then you just update them in the webform. Once you are able to fly (when the border opens), then you just submit new medical and police documents.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

OK, your COPR is fresh, they would not renew it.

The information regarding COPR extensions does not set any sort of limit depending on when the COPR was originally issued.

 

[ryeCatcher]

The information regarding COPR extensions does not set any sort of limit depending on when the COPR was originally issued.

Exactly!
@niko80 : you seem to be completely misunderstanding the rules for extending the COPR :|
It says absolutely nothing about before or after the 16th.

 

[ryeCatcher]

Border is closed, so you can not get in.

Here is further cl

In that case, if only US citizens are allowed, I just wonder why you are not interested in extending COPR? If borders are closed COPR extension will not be an issue? What is expiry date of your COPR?

Here is further clarification :

Banning entry of foreign nationals by air travel from all countries except the U.S.
Under the Aeronautics Act, the Minister of Transport will require air carriers on flights to Canada to deny boarding to any passenger who is not a Canadian citizen or permanent resident, and has resided in any country other than the U.S. in the last 14 days.

For practical purposes, the denial of boarding would apply to:

• all foreign nationals on flights to Canada other than trans-border flights, and
• any foreign national on a trans-border flight who has resided outside the US and Canada in the last 14 days.

In simple terms, you cannot board a plane to Canada if you have been outside of Canada or the United States in the last 14 days, unless you are a Canadian Citizen, Canadian Permanent Resident or in transit to a 3rd country.

The measure will come into force on Wednesday, March 18, at 12:00 p.m. (noon) EDT. It would not apply to air crews, travelers arriving in Canada in transit to a third country, Canadian Permanent Residents, diplomats, or immediate family members of Canadian citizens.

https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-canada/news/2020/03/new-measures-for-covid-19-response.html

 

[niko80]

Here is further cl



Here is further clarification :

Banning entry of foreign nationals by air travel from all countries except the U.S.
Under the Aeronautics Act, the Minister of Transport will require air carriers on flights to Canada to deny boarding to any passenger who is not a Canadian citizen or permanent resident, and has resided in any country other than the U.S. in the last 14 days.

For practical purposes, the denial of boarding would apply to:

• all foreign nationals on flights to Canada other than trans-border flights, and
• any foreign national on a trans-border flight who has resided outside the US and Canada in the last 14 days.

In simple terms, you cannot board a plane to Canada if you have been outside of Canada or the United States in the last 14 days, unless you are a Canadian Citizen, Canadian Permanent Resident or in transit to a 3rd country.

The measure will come into force on Wednesday, March 18, at 12:00 p.m. (noon) EDT. It would not apply to air crews, travelers arriving in Canada in transit to a third country, Canadian Permanent Residents, diplomats, or immediate family members of Canadian citizens.

https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-canada/news/2020/03/new-measures-for-covid-19-response.html

thanks, that is good. 14 days self-isolation is mandatory.

 

[ryeCatcher]

thanks, that is good. 14 days self-isolation is mandatory.

Yes though it seems that is self enforced "self isolation", so not sure how strict or well enforced it is.

Do you also interpret this to mean that non US citizens can travel from US to Canada as long as they have resided in US/Canada for last 14 days?