Delivering a baby in canada

[Ayra ejaz]

Hello,
Me, my husband and my daughter have canadian PR but currently we r working in abu dhabi. Now i am expecting a baby and want to deliver in toronto. Can anybody help me to choose what is best for me either to deliver in toronto or in abu dhabi as we dont have canadian health insurance.

 

[canuck78]

Hello,
Me, my husband and my daughter have canadian PR but currently we r working in abu dhabi. Now i am expecting a baby and want to deliver in toronto. Can anybody help me to choose what is best for me either to deliver in toronto or in abu dhabi as we dont have canadian health insurance.

It is a personal choice and dependent on your savings. You would need to fly before 36 weeks but likely earlier to be sure you don’t go into labour on a plane, pay for somewhere to live for a few months, find a doctor and pay for your doctors visits and labour and delivery so count on paying 10-20k. Expect to be away for 3 months at least.

 

[Bs65]

Just to add to above reply that apart from the costs from a practical viewpoint keep in mind having the baby outside of Canada would require one of you at least in the future to be in Canada to sponsor the child for PR.

You could of course apply for a TRV for the child when you decide as PRs to return but no guarantee that would be approved so some time apart could result for either one of you during the PR sponsorship..

If you can afford it then of course having the baby in Canada avoids above with citizenship being granted for the baby.

 

[Ayra ejaz]

Our insurance here in abu dhabi can bear the cost of 10k canadian dollar for the delivery in canada but not above than this. So we can bear the cost around this much. But my husband is worried to leave us alone there for 3 months as he can only join us for one month and he is considering risk of being alone without him in this condition but i really want my would be baby to be canadian by birth thats why i m searching for the right advice from you guys who are already in canada. So help me with this.

 

[Ayra ejaz]

Mean while my sister living in USA can also help me by being there for me and stay with me. And my parent's are also applying for visit visa of canada so then they can also be with me.

 

[canuck78]

Mean while my sister living in USA can also help me by being there for me and stay with me. And my parent's are also applying for visit visa of canada so then they can also be with me.

Do either your sister or parents have visas to visit Canada? If your sister is living in the US without being a citizen or having a green card she may be refused. Your parents may be refused as well. I would make sure they can actually get a TRV because they can be difficult to secure. Where will you live? An Airbnb will get expensive and likely won’t have a crib/bassinet. Labour is difficult to plan so unless your husband can take 2 months off he could miss the birth. What about your other child? Will they remain in KSA? Would wait to see if your family can actually get a visa. I would also price out short term accommodations because that may get pretty expensive. Really a personal decision but would get your family to apply for a TRV before counting on them being there to support you.

 

[Ayra ejaz]

My sister will get an on arrival visa as she along with her family already visited us in toronto last year when we were there for our PR purpose and we had a great time together. So for her there is no problem she can easily come ans stay with me.

 

[Ayra ejaz]

I also have a cousin and uncle living in toronto and both have cars as a second support.

 

[Bs65]

I also have a cousin and uncle living in toronto and both have cars as a second support.

Not sure what having cars has to do with anything.

Not sure what you mean by visa on arrival as getting a visitor visa on arrival is not something available. Do you mean she already has a multi entry visas or is on visa exempt passports or has A green card or US passport ?

If she has anyone of these then she could subject to CBSA enter Canada as a visitor.

 

[csadangi]

Giving birth in Canada when you are not here will be extremely difficult considering the above facts. The cost without healthcare would be 10-20 K. Also, remember you cannot just leave Canada after birth. You need to wait until he gets his birth certificate and passport to be able to fly. So add 2 more months on top of 3 months. This would be really expensive without proper planning. If you are early in your pregnancy, I would suggest moving here.

 

[visatest]

Our insurance here in abu dhabi can bear the cost of 10k canadian dollar for the delivery in canada but not above than this. So we can bear the cost around this much. But my husband is worried to leave us alone there for 3 months as he can only join us for one month and he is considering risk of being alone without him in this condition but i really want my would be baby to be canadian by birth thats why i m searching for the right advice from you guys who are already in canada. So help me with this.

Birth tourism is becoming a sore point in Canada. The system is designed to accommodate Canadians and not anyone else. The problem is people will show up and either think things are free or a nominal cost. They then hear 10k for a birth and say OK. Only to have complications and have to use NN ICU,s and ring up bills like $500,000.00. Then, of course, we (the Canadian Tax Payor) gets stuck with the bill. In BC the hospitals can't keep up and Canadians (the ones the system is built for receive shoddy service). In a look at the future, Sunnybrook (the biggest hospital in Toronto) will no longer accept any foreign birth's. We can't serve the whole world so expect further restrictions.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/birth-tourism-strain-1.5413296
http://health.sunnybrook.ca/navigator/birth-tourism-the-pregnant-patients-most-doctors-cannot-accept/

 

[Bs65]

Giving birth in Canada when you are not here will be extremely difficult considering the above facts. The cost without healthcare would be 10-20 K. Also, remember you cannot just leave Canada after birth. You need to wait until he gets his birth certificate and passport to be able to fly. So add 2 more months on top of 3 months. This would be really expensive without proper planning. If you are early in your pregnancy, I would suggest moving here.

Just to add to this assume the OP once the child has a Canadian passport has resolved how the child will live in Abu Dhabi/ UAE as a temp resident as assume not same as getting a visit visa on arrival.

 

[canuck78]

Birth tourism is becoming a sore point in Canada. The system is designed to accommodate Canadians and not anyone else. The problem is people will show up and either think things are free or a nominal cost. They then hear 10k for a birth and say OK. Only to have complications and have to use NN ICU,s and ring up bills like $500,000.00. Then, of course, we (the Canadian Tax Payor) gets stuck with the bill. In BC the hospitals can't keep up and Canadians (the ones the system is built for receive shoddy service). In a look at the future, Sunnybrook (the biggest hospital in Toronto) will no longer accept any foreign birth's. We can't serve the whole world so expect further restrictions.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/birth-tourism-strain-1.5413296
http://health.sunnybrook.ca/navigator/birth-tourism-the-pregnant-patients-most-doctors-cannot-accept/

OP is a PR so this isn’t birth tourism.

 

[canuck78]

Not sure what having cars has to do with anything.

Not sure what you mean by visa on arrival as getting a visitor visa on arrival is not something available. Do you mean she already has a multi entry visas or is on visa exempt passports or has A green card or US passport ?

If she has anyone of these then she could subject to CBSA enter Canada as a visitor.

Getting to and from appointments, getting to the hospital in labour and bringing the baby home, buying food and baby stuff since carrying big items isn’t advisable after delivery or right before. Will you be staying with your family? Do they have baby stuff that you can borrow. Something like a basinet, baby seat, nursing pillow and other stuff if needed. Babies seem to have so much stuff these days but things like breast pump may be needed or lots of bottles if you are using formula. It definitely becomes quite complicated. Will your other child come with you or stay with the father? Will you need to find childcare? Not an easy answer either way but certainly challenging to show up in an unfamiliar country knowing you could have a baby at anytime and need to rush around finding a doctor, talking to the hospital and arranging prepayment, organizing housing if necessary, getting baby basics, etc. Babies also arrive when they want to so they can come early or you can go up to 41 weeks in Canada before getting induced so it becomes hard to coordinate with people many hours away. Really a personal decision with your family based on your budget and logistics. I would make sure to speak with your insurance to make sure they will cover 10k and how you will set that up with hospitals who usually request prepayment of a certain amount if you don’t have OHIP.