refusal after sponsorship default???anyone

[noora73]

Hi
Is there anyone who got refused for parental sponsorship because he/she or their spouse broke the undertaking of previous sponsorship?
i read cases where couples seperated and one gone on welfare.anyone where couple did not seperated but case got refused?any case?
Just wondering does cic rejects cases on this base?

 

[CharlieD10]

Yes. If a co-signer defaults on a previous sponsorship, they cannot be part of a new undertaking. So if you are depending on the income of your spouse to meet the LICO, and they defaulted on a previous sponsorship, you will not be accepted to sponsor.

 

[noora73]

Thank you for your reply,But how do we know we are defaulted or not? I guess mosty people do not know what other partner did or sometim they geet the letters from provincial authorities.anyon out there with this experience?I would really appreciate anyone who has firsthand experience of refusal or acceptance after default.thanks

 

[rjessome]

Thank you for your reply,But how do we know we are defaulted or not? I guess mosty people do not know what other partner did or sometim they geet the letters from provincial authorities.anyon out there with this experience?I would really appreciate anyone who has firsthand experience of refusal or acceptance after default.thanks

Are you saying you do not know if your sponsored spouse received welfare? But you are not separated? I'm sorry, I don't understand. I would assume if you are asking this question that you know that your spouse received welfare and that you have defaulted on the sponsorship agreement. Check out Canlii.org for plenty of caselaw of refusals where the sponsor defaulted. There are lots.

 

[noora73]

Hi
What i want to say is after my sponsorship ,after 15 months we had to go on social assisstance together.govt use to take 50 bucks for recovery oer penalty.Then we asked them to stop the social assistance and both of us are working now fo last 6 years.But no govt agency contacted us for any amount?So should i consider us default?I am the sponsor now.what are our chances for approval of sponsorship.How I can fix this?

 

[CharlieD10]

Contact the office, ask them to check your records. You may need to go in person, sometimes they won't give that information on the phone. Make sure you find out your status FIRST and do whatever you need to, make an arrangement to pay back anything owing or pay it off in full at once. Even if your sponsorship is rejected, at an appeal you can present evidence that you took steps to correct the default. By the way, yes, you are in default, they went on welfare within the undertaking period. You need to find out if the recovery amount was enough to completely cover all that was given to your sponsored family members.

 

[parents2017]

Hi
What i want to say is after my sponsorship ,after 15 months we had to go on social assisstance together.govt use to take 50 bucks for recovery oer penalty.Then we asked them to stop the social assistance and both of us are working now fo last 6 years.But no govt agency contacted us for any amount?So should i consider us default?I am the sponsor now.what are our chances for approval of sponsorship.How I can fix this?

Hi, i was in the similar situation. I paid everything back and cic saying cosigner is in default. What do i do ?what happened with your application ?

 

[scylla]

Hi, i was in the similar situation. I paid everything back and cic saying cosigner is in default. What do i do ?what happened with your application ?

Did you pay everything back including what your co-signer owes?

 

[parents2017]

Did you pay everything back including what your co-signer owes?

Hi, My wife sponsored me in 2011 while she was on Disability benefits (not the unemployment or other social benefits). I came to Canada and ODSP asked my wife about my information (Landing Paper, Passport etc). After two months in Canada and i got the job and i have never been unemployed and never applied for any sort of benefits. Since my wife and i both have been working and together make almost 140k a year, my wife was not eligible for Disability benefits after i joined her.

Now IRCC is saying my wife owes money because i got the benefits within undertaking period. My wife called ODSP/ORU and found that during my first two months in Canada, when i was looking for job and at the same time applying for SIN and getting my drivers licence etc, ODSP paid more benefits to my wife because she had sponsored me. the benefits my wife got also had small portion for me.

We had no idea how this works and now IRCC is not considering her as co-signer.

 

[canuck78]

Hi, My wife sponsored me in 2011 while she was on Disability benefits (not the unemployment or other social benefits). I came to Canada and ODSP asked my wife about my information (Landing Paper, Passport etc). After two months in Canada and i got the job and i have never been unemployed and never applied for any sort of benefits. Since my wife and i both have been working and together make almost 140k a year, my wife was not eligible for Disability benefits after i joined her.

Now IRCC is saying my wife owes money because i got the benefits within undertaking period. My wife called ODSP/ORU and found that during my first two months in Canada, when i was looking for job and at the same time applying for SIN and getting my drivers licence etc, ODSP paid more benefits to my wife because she had sponsored me. the benefits my wife got also had small portion for me.

We had no idea how this works and now IRCC is not considering her as co-signer.

Did your wife notify ODSP when you got married even when you weren’t in Canada?

 

[parents2017]

Did your wife notify ODSP when you got married even when you weren’t in Canada?

@canuck78 @scylla

Yes, my wife did notify them but ODSP insisted that these are not social assistance benefits that she is receiving instead these are disability benefits. We never thought that the first two months will bite us after so long and never know that there is a portion for me in those benefits. Her portion is considered disability benefits and my portion is considered social assistance. It might probably be 400 dollar altogether that will have to pay back, but created lot of problem for us.

I got into the parents lottery after trying for 3 years, and now the letter says the sponsorship is not successful and they have forwarded the Permanent Residence application to Local Visa office and 'Sponsorship being Unsuccessful' will play significant role in the final decision.

I am thinking to contact local MP and explain them the situation and meanwhile clear out anything that is owed.

Please guide me if there is anything else i should do.

Thanks

 

[scylla]

@canuck78 @scylla

Yes, my wife did notify them but ODSP insisted that these are not social assistance benefits that she is receiving instead these are disability benefits. We never thought that the first two months will bite us after so long and never know that there is a portion for me in those benefits. Her portion is considered disability benefits and my portion is considered social assistance. It might probably be 400 dollar altogether that will have to pay back, but created lot of problem for us.

I got into the parents lottery after trying for 3 years, and now the letter says the sponsorship is not successful and they have forwarded the Permanent Residence application to Local Visa office and 'Sponsorship being Unsuccessful' will play significant role in the final decision.

I am thinking to contact local MP and explain them the situation and meanwhile clear out anything that is owed.

Please guide me if there is anything else i should do.

Thanks

Pay the money that is owed as soon as possible and send evidence to IRCC that this is done.

 

[parents2017]

Pay the money that is owed as soon as possible and send evidence to IRCC that this is done.

@scylla @canuck78

Thanks guys

 

[Hzyfa256]

@canuck78 @scylla

Yes, my wife did notify them but ODSP insisted that these are not social assistance benefits that she is receiving instead these are disability benefits. We never thought that the first two months will bite us after so long and never know that there is a portion for me in those benefits. Her portion is considered disability benefits and my portion is considered social assistance. It might probably be 400 dollar altogether that will have to pay back, but created lot of problem for us.

I got into the parents lottery after trying for 3 years, and now the letter says the sponsorship is not successful and they have forwarded the Permanent Residence application to Local Visa office and 'Sponsorship being Unsuccessful' will play significant role in the final decision.

I am thinking to contact local MP and explain them the situation and meanwhile clear out anything that is owed.

Please guide me if there is anything else i should do.

Thanks

Hello how was ur case resolved?My wife is having a debt with social assistance.She moved from Ontario to Edmonton without notifying Ontario works so they told her to pay the way.Will that money affect our spouse sponsorship since it's not related with previous sponsorship

 

[canuck78]

Hello how was ur case resolved?My wife is having a debt with social assistance.She moved from Ontario to Edmonton without notifying Ontario works so they told her to pay the way.Will that money affect our spouse sponsorship since it's not related with previous sponsorship

Yes it will still affect sponsorship. You have to prove that you can support yourselves without government help. If you have a large debt from social services from many years ago which you don’t seem to be paying back there are concerns about your ability to support yourselves. If you can pay off the debt you should pay it off ASAP. At the very least you need to arrange a payment plan and start paying consistently and decrease the balance.