Possible Rejection due to wrong NOC. Kindly HELP :(

[Mustafa83]

Thanks for your response. That's the main point of confusion that many others on this forum say that 60 percent match would be fine.

The thing is that I have already taken the reference letter twice from my ex-employer. Previously i had only 3 points on it. I can add nothing more from rest 3 points.

Then it is up to you whether to risk it or not.

As far as I understand from reading this forum if for some reason you applciation is rejected by one province it should not affect your nomination by another one.

Since, once you are nominated then nomination appears in your Express Entry profile and if youa re not nominated, nothing will appear there.

 

[NMS@]

Then it is up to you whether to risk it or not.

As far as I understand from reading this forum if for some reason you applciation is rejected by one province it should not affect your nomination by another one.

Since, once you are nominated then nomination appears in your Express Entry profile and if youa re not nominated, nothing will appear there.

Was this reply to my post? What nomination are you talking about?

 

[Mustafa83]

Was this reply to my post? What nomination are you talking about?

If a province selects you they nominate you for permanent residence and that nomination appears in your EE profile.

 

[NMS@]

Seniors please guide me here.

I have a question. I have 4 duties mentioned on my employment letter and all 4 match the NOC code. But NOC code has total number of 7 duties given. So basically only 4 out of 7 duties match. Can it be a problem?

 

[NZ_ozzie]

Seniors please guide me here.

I have a question. I have 4 duties mentioned on my employment letter and all 4 match the NOC code. But NOC code has total number of 7 duties given. So basically only 4 out of 7 duties match. Can it be a problem?

Very risk application if only 4 duties mentioned....From my experience, the more duties you have the better....Maybe try to get letters from your work colleagues defining your duties in more detail....

 

[NMS@]

Very risk application if only 4 duties mentioned....From my experience, the more duties you have the better....Maybe try to get letters from your work colleagues defining your duties in more detail....

Can you please spare a minute to read the duties mentioned in NOC as follows-

Main duties

Architectural technologists and technicians perform some or all of the following duties:

• Assist in the development of architectural designs
• Analyze building codes, by-laws, space requirements, site requirements and other technical documents and reports
• Prepare manual and CAD (computer-assisted design) drawings, specifications, cost estimates and listings of quantities of material from conceptual drawings and instructions
• Construct architectural and display models, and 3-D virtual models of architectural designs
• Prepare contract and bidding documents
• May supervise drafters, technicians and technologists on the architectural team
• May supervise construction projects and co-ordinate, monitor and inspect work done by others.

So, I have first 4 points covered in my employment letter. If you notice the kast two points carefully, these are meant for seniors in profession who can supervise junior staff in the office. So I think technically I have only 5 points to claim out of which i claimed 4.

Now looking at this situation,what do you think? Content wise, isn't it mostly covered in first 4 points only?

Thanks for the help!

 

[imyeppeo0926]

Hello,
Please help
I am unable to find where to upload two of the required files:

• Schedule 4: Economic Classes – Provincial Nominee
  
• Supplementary Information – Your Travels

Thanks

 

[Sisl]

Can anyone please advise me.

I have 10+ years experience as a Lawyer (NOC 4112), but changed it in Express Entry profile to Paralegal (NOC 4211) in order to submit an application for Saskatchewan Express Entry since NOC 4112 is ineligible.

Apart from reference letter, they do ask for another 3 documents to prove your work history and 1 of the documents must be government issued. Even though I may be able to have paralegal duties written in a reference letter, my job title will state Lawyer in all the documents.

On top of that I do have Master's Degree in Commercial Law, while Paralegals most of the time do not require university degree.

I am now considering not to submit any documents and wait for my invitation to expire and not to proceed with this province. It is a big risk and I am worried I may end up being banned from applying to Canada PR for several years.

Your advice is highly appreciated.

I am in a similar situation. I would like to apply for Saskatchewan but my job title which is a 99% match to 5131 (TV producer) is excluded in their jobs in demand category, so I do not know if I can apply for 1221 (Administrative officer) because it has a completely different title but duties have about 70% match. What do you think I should do, should I go ahead with 1221? Because I really like Saskatchewan. And can you update us with your progress?

 

[NyashadzaShe]

I read on somewhere on this forum that the match has to be 80%. So, in your case the match is 57%. Thus try and add the 2 out of the remaining 3 job duties if possible.

As I udnerstand the job duties are the main thing they look for and not the job title.

Hi Mustafa, did you proceed with your SINP application as a legal assistant and how did that go?

 

[Mustafa83]

Hi Mustafa, did you proceed with your SINP application as a legal assistant and how did that go?

No. I was not able to collect 3 documents confirming my work experience.
Most importantly my proof of funds letter was not 3 months old.

 

[NyashadzaShe]

No. I was not able to collect 3 documents confirming my work experience.
Most importantly my proof of funds letter was not 3 months old.

Thanks for responding, much appreciated.

 

[NivedhithaCibi]

Hi All,

I would like to leave a long post for future applicants that might be in same situation as me.

AOR - 10th Nov., 2018
COPR - 5th June, 2019

Nationality - New Zealand citizen residing in Australia

I processed my application through a lawyer in Canada so most of the blunders below are not my fault even though I have to take ownership of these as I was supposed to double check everything and not just leave it all to him.

1) On 10th Nov. (a day after submitting my application) I found out (through Canadavisa.com) that I had submitted incorrect PCC for Australia.

I had uploaded Australian Federal Police Clearance obtained using the ‘purpose of reason’ as “33 – Immigration/Citizenship – for supply to the Department of Immigration and Border Protection” but after going through Canadavisaforum.com I realised the correct ‘purpose of reason’ required by IRCC is “35 – Overseas Employment/visas – for supply to a country other than Australia”. Straight away I requested new PCC, requested Australian Federal Police Dept. to expedite my request. Got it in 3 days and raised a CSE to upload the correct PCCs on 15th Nov. 2018. I was scared for next 30 days as R10 check happens in about 30-35 days post AOR and most people get rejections for incorrect documents (mostly incorrect PCCs) at this stage.

2) Cleared MEP on 11th Dec. 2018 and at the same time received an ADR to submit Mexican Police Clearance. I have to mention here I was asked for Mexican Police Clearance during my initial upload of documents as well but Mexico only issues PCCs if you have a request letter from IRCC. So in the place holder for Mexican Police Clearance I had uploaded a document stating I am unable to obtain PCC without IRCC request letter. So they sent that letter on 11th Dec., 2018. For Mexico police clearance there is 2 ways of obtaining it – through IRCC consulate in Mexico (takes about 60 days for entire process) or find a local lawyer that will obtain on your behalf. I submitted through both ways – Sent completed application to IRCC Mexico for PCC and also applied through lawyer. It took me a month to find a lawyer that understood English. Anyways lawyer took 11 days and I submitted the PCC at the end of Jan, 2019.

3) Ordered Notes on 2nd Feb. 2019. On 6th Feb. 2019, called IRCC to confirm if my Mexico PCC has been attached. The agent was super nice and told me my eligibility is ‘NOT MET’ due to NOC mismatch. It was a shock to me. Anyways I went back to my application, checked all the forms I had submitted and found out 2 major mistakes. 1st in my address history I had put in incorrect year of stay in Mexico. I was only in Mexico for 4 days but by mistake chose wrong year so my stay became 1 year and 4 days hence the stupid request for Mexican PCC. 2nd big blunder was choosing NOC code 2281 as opposed to 2282(which is my correct NOC). So I wrote a very detailed CSE requesting a NOC rectification and also address rectification. Even though it was my lawyer that did all the mistakes, I had to take ownership and fix those.

A week after I found out about these blunders, I fired my lawyer.

Feb. end I received my first set of GCMS notes and as per last notes by Case Processing Agent - ----------------------- Ml3

SUMMARY NOTES: CLIENT DID NOT MEET MEC AS THEY DID NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH EVIDENCE OF ATLEAST 1 YEAR WORK EXPERIENCE IN THE REQUIRED PRIMARY NOC. PRIMARY NOC ON APPLICATION IS 2281 - COMPUTER NETWORK TECHNICIANS AND ALL OF PA'S WORK EXPERIENCE IS IN NOC 2282- USER SUPPORT TECHNICIANS.

A11.2: NOT MET

It was just a waiting game after this until end of March, 2019 when my file moved to local VO in a mass file movement that happened.
I ordered notes End of March’19 – Still have not received them.
Re-ordered notes mid-May’19 – still have not received them.

Lessons Learnt:

Never use a lawyer but If you do never ever rely on them solely.

Check your application at least 10 times and always get a second set of eyes to proof read everything.

Very important – Start calling up IRCC around 3rd month mark. Order GCMS notes by end of 3rd month. PLEASE DO NOT , I repeat, DO NOT LISTEN TO ANYONE that tells you not to order notes as it has negative impact on your application. It is all bull****. Just imagine IRCC rejects your file for ordering notes, you take IRCC to court- How stupid would IRCC look in court…Just think logically and don’t listen to idiotic advice.

When I got Eligibility not met everyone started discouraging me, saying it is sure shot refusal. I didn’t give up because I knew even though I did commit silly mistakes, I had sent through CSEs requesting rectifications. So any agent/lawyer/person tells you not to raise CSE until IRCC asks for it, kick him/her out of the door before it is too late. Send CSEs regularly….

We created a Whatsapp group for ENM (as we called it) and supported each other positively so do talk to each other, lift each other’s spirits high. As I always said and will keep saying it “You will get there in the end, some sooner others bit later”.

All the best everyone. See you all on the other side……

I am more than happy to help anyone in similar situation to mine but please do not ask me to match up your NOCs…lol….

Great post and insights. I have a question regarding mismatch in NOC. I worked in the same company for 9 years outside Canada and for fist 3 years the NOC was 2174 and then 2173 . I put 2173 as NOC for the whole 9 years, do you think there could be any chances of rejection? Should i just remove the first 3 years of work experience and put in personal history ? Or leave it as it is?

 

[wick_sran]

Great post and insights. I have a question regarding mismatch in NOC. I worked in the same company for 9 years outside Canada and for fist 3 years the NOC was 2174 and then 2173 . I put 2173 as NOC for the whole 9 years, do you think there could be any chances of rejection? Should i just remove the first 3 years of work experience and put in personal history ? Or leave it as it is?

Put 3 years of work experience in personal history.

 

[NivedhithaCibi]

Put 3 years of work experience in personal history.

Thank you but do you think there is a chance of rejection based on previous noc mismatch when there is no impact on the outcome

 

[sandhyasanish]

Hi All,

I would like to leave a long post for future applicants that might be in same situation as me.

AOR - 10th Nov., 2018
COPR - 5th June, 2019

Nationality - New Zealand citizen residing in Australia

I processed my application through a lawyer in Canada so most of the blunders below are not my fault even though I have to take ownership of these as I was supposed to double check everything and not just leave it all to him.

1) On 10th Nov. (a day after submitting my application) I found out (through Canadavisa.com) that I had submitted incorrect PCC for Australia.

I had uploaded Australian Federal Police Clearance obtained using the ‘purpose of reason’ as “33 – Immigration/Citizenship – for supply to the Department of Immigration and Border Protection” but after going through Canadavisaforum.com I realised the correct ‘purpose of reason’ required by IRCC is “35 – Overseas Employment/visas – for supply to a country other than Australia”. Straight away I requested new PCC, requested Australian Federal Police Dept. to expedite my request. Got it in 3 days and raised a CSE to upload the correct PCCs on 15th Nov. 2018. I was scared for next 30 days as R10 check happens in about 30-35 days post AOR and most people get rejections for incorrect documents (mostly incorrect PCCs) at this stage.

2) Cleared MEP on 11th Dec. 2018 and at the same time received an ADR to submit Mexican Police Clearance. I have to mention here I was asked for Mexican Police Clearance during my initial upload of documents as well but Mexico only issues PCCs if you have a request letter from IRCC. So in the place holder for Mexican Police Clearance I had uploaded a document stating I am unable to obtain PCC without IRCC request letter. So they sent that letter on 11th Dec., 2018. For Mexico police clearance there is 2 ways of obtaining it – through IRCC consulate in Mexico (takes about 60 days for entire process) or find a local lawyer that will obtain on your behalf. I submitted through both ways – Sent completed application to IRCC Mexico for PCC and also applied through lawyer. It took me a month to find a lawyer that understood English. Anyways lawyer took 11 days and I submitted the PCC at the end of Jan, 2019.

3) Ordered Notes on 2nd Feb. 2019. On 6th Feb. 2019, called IRCC to confirm if my Mexico PCC has been attached. The agent was super nice and told me my eligibility is ‘NOT MET’ due to NOC mismatch. It was a shock to me. Anyways I went back to my application, checked all the forms I had submitted and found out 2 major mistakes. 1st in my address history I had put in incorrect year of stay in Mexico. I was only in Mexico for 4 days but by mistake chose wrong year so my stay became 1 year and 4 days hence the stupid request for Mexican PCC. 2nd big blunder was choosing NOC code 2281 as opposed to 2282(which is my correct NOC). So I wrote a very detailed CSE requesting a NOC rectification and also address rectification. Even though it was my lawyer that did all the mistakes, I had to take ownership and fix those.

A week after I found out about these blunders, I fired my lawyer.

Feb. end I received my first set of GCMS notes and as per last notes by Case Processing Agent - ----------------------- Ml3

SUMMARY NOTES: CLIENT DID NOT MEET MEC AS THEY DID NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH EVIDENCE OF ATLEAST 1 YEAR WORK EXPERIENCE IN THE REQUIRED PRIMARY NOC. PRIMARY NOC ON APPLICATION IS 2281 - COMPUTER NETWORK TECHNICIANS AND ALL OF PA'S WORK EXPERIENCE IS IN NOC 2282- USER SUPPORT TECHNICIANS.

A11.2: NOT MET

It was just a waiting game after this until end of March, 2019 when my file moved to local VO in a mass file movement that happened.
I ordered notes End of March’19 – Still have not received them.
Re-ordered notes mid-May’19 – still have not received them.

Lessons Learnt:

Never use a lawyer but If you do never ever rely on them solely.

Check your application at least 10 times and always get a second set of eyes to proof read everything.

Very important – Start calling up IRCC around 3rd month mark. Order GCMS notes by end of 3rd month. PLEASE DO NOT , I repeat, DO NOT LISTEN TO ANYONE that tells you not to order notes as it has negative impact on your application. It is all bull****. Just imagine IRCC rejects your file for ordering notes, you take IRCC to court- How stupid would IRCC look in court…Just think logically and don’t listen to idiotic advice.

When I got Eligibility not met everyone started discouraging me, saying it is sure shot refusal. I didn’t give up because I knew even though I did commit silly mistakes, I had sent through CSEs requesting rectifications. So any agent/lawyer/person tells you not to raise CSE until IRCC asks for it, kick him/her out of the door before it is too late. Send CSEs regularly….

We created a Whatsapp group for ENM (as we called it) and supported each other positively so do talk to each other, lift each other’s spirits high. As I always said and will keep saying it “You will get there in the end, some sooner others bit later”.

All the best everyone. See you all on the other side……

I am more than happy to help anyone in similar situation to mine but please do not ask me to match up your NOCs…lol….

Hi thank you for your this detailed post. I had done the same mistake. I have send LOE for the rectify the same. Waiting for the positive response. Could you please clarify what is CSE .
Thanks in advance