OINP - EE - Human Capital Priorities Stream - Comprehensive Guide

[DhivyaDia]

NOI received on Aug 15th
Submitted on Sep 12th
Status “Submitted”

The long wait starts.

 

[Rickster_21]

To answer to your questions :
1. You can mention as other and type out what is mentioned on the report. That way you wont have to second guess.
2. I have a few questions: a) did you work or were doing a job while getting your diploma ? b) Can you ask from the college were you have received the diploma, if they can confirm on whether you were full time or part time studying ?

Hi thanks for responding!
I was working at the time of diploma and this was a distance learning course with online assignments and tests.

 

[Rickster_21]

If I m unable to produce salary slips for all years from my current employer, will bank statements suffice?

 

[DhivyaDia]

If I m unable to produce salary slips for all years from my current employer, will bank statements suffice?

unless you have not quit, you can definitely get those salary slips. plus yes Bank statements where the salary has been transferred can help. But try and see if you can find those statements. contact your HR.

 

[DhivyaDia]

Hi thanks for responding!
I was working at the time of diploma and this was a distance learning course with online assignments and tests.

I think you must fill in part time only then.

 

[Mozijikuu]

hi all, is there anyone who got ppr with OINP nomination recently.My AOR is June 23rd and still waiting under the 6month process time.I saw some AINP members got PPR very quick and just wonder how long would it take approximately in OINP case?

 

[srikarnikhi]

Hello All,

Received NOI on Aug 15th,
Submitted on Sep 12th.
Current Status - Submitted.

The long wait has started.

Thanks,
Srikar

 

[DhivyaDia]

hi all, is there anyone who got ppr with OINP nomination recently.My AOR is June 23rd and still waiting under the 6month process time.I saw some AINP members got PPR very quick and just wonder how long would it take approximately in OINP case?

We cannot predict anything like that for any of the province nominated candidates who have applied to an ITA. Since, the post ITA process involves different Visa officers from case to case, all we can do as the applicants is wait. This is a matter of law and immigration from their side and they have every right to carefully scan through your application. You can check your EE profile to see any kind of updates. Yes there have been cases where it does not reflect on the EE profile, in such a situation take a look at your mails, your inbox, junk box, spam box every mail box related to the email id you have given to them while registering. If you are using a consultant and he is doing the correspondence on behalf of you, bug him/her everyday to check their inboxes (same as above). You can very well go ahead and ask IRCC yourself by dropping an email to them regarding your application, I am sure they will respond. At the end of it Patience is the key, I know it can be excruciating, but at the end of it, the result is going to be definitely sweet and awesome . Hope this helps

 

[Veesh92]

Hey, did anyone get an NOI after 15th August?

 

[DhivyaDia]

Nope none yet !

 

[SlyDigits]

Hi Everyone,

So we received an invite for the OINP Human Capital Priorities Stream - Tech Draw on 12th July 2019. We submitted our application on 24th August and have received a request for more information. Here are the two documents that they have asked for:

1. Letter from bank stating that Fixed Term Deposit is non-locked and immediately available to liquidate
2. Proof that NOC matches previous designation for work experience at self-owned business

Now the first point of getting the bank to provide a Fixed Term Deposit letter demonstrating liquifiability is easy.

The second part is what is confusing and I am looking for help on.

Sorry for the long post!

Here is some background: My wife (primary applicant) setup her own business in 2007 - for digital marketing and technology services (primarily web application development). I joined her company in 2007 as well.

From 2007 to 2019, she was part of her own business but as we decided to look at Canada for immigration, we slowed down our operations and shut down our tech services - which she was completely in charge of. Since January 2019, she has joined an American firm's technology division, working on their website as a Senior Full-Stack Developer.

Now, as proof of our work for technology clients from 2007 through 2019, we provided reference letters from the clients describing each project, the letters of inception and tax-registration (it was a propreitorship) as well as invoices and contracts for almost all of our technology projects.

In her company, her designation was Founder and CTO. And while we never had more than 5-members in the tech-team, out of 15-total employees, she was involved directly in every aspect of the project - from architecture design to programming, testing, bug-fixing and deployment - sometimes even documentation.

So now, here is the point of contention that OINP people have referred to in their letter:
"In order to continue the assessment of your application, further information and/or documentation is required to verify the following program criteria:

1) You must have at least one year of continuous paid full-time work experience, or the equivalent in paid part-time work experience, within the five years prior to the date of application submission.

o Please note that your eligible work experience in your application should be consistent with the NOC code in your Express Entry profile. If there is a discrepancy between the NOC provided in your application and in your Express Entry profile, you will be assessed against the NOC code in your Express Entry profile.

The NOC code associated with your Express Entry profile is 2174. Please confirm:

• The appropriate NOC to classify your job duties as a Proprietor and CTO with <company name>, and

• If the primary NOC code in your Express Entry profile is the appropriate NOC to classify your duties in the above mentioned role. If you select a new NOC, please submit confirmation that you have updated your Express Entry profile accordingly (i.e. EE profile number if different, screenshot of NOC selected, etc.)."

Now the main thing they require us to confirm is whether her NOC is the correct one for "Proprietor and CTO" job duties - and while she did have to perform admin and accounting tasks (not sales), amongst other things, she was primarily a programmer working as a team leader. The designation was more for the clients rather than internal operations.

So my question to all of you are these:

• How do we convey the message to OINP that our organization's tech department was really small and she was essentially working as a programmer (maybe senior level slightly) alongside some other duties - will a letter stating her responsibilities in her company (along with all her client-reference letters) on a company letterhead be adequate?
• As she was the propreitor and the highest authority in the business, can she sign that letter herself?
• Is there any other way of informing them that while the NOC code is 2174, her designation was more symbolic rather than an accurate representation of her job duties at her own company?

Thank you all for taking the time to read this and for all your inputs.

 

[DhivyaDia]

Hi Everyone,

So we received an invite for the OINP Human Capital Priorities Stream - Tech Draw on 12th July 2019. We submitted our application on 24th August and have received a request for more information. Here are the two documents that they have asked for:

1. Letter from bank stating that Fixed Term Deposit is non-locked and immediately available to liquidate
2. Proof that NOC matches previous designation for work experience at self-owned business

Now the first point of getting the bank to provide a Fixed Term Deposit letter demonstrating liquifiability is easy.

The second part is what is confusing and I am looking for help on.

Sorry for the long post!

Here is some background: My wife (primary applicant) setup her own business in 2007 - for digital marketing and technology services (primarily web application development). I joined her company in 2007 as well.

From 2007 to 2019, she was part of her own business but as we decided to look at Canada for immigration, we slowed down our operations and shut down our tech services - which she was completely in charge of. Since January 2019, she has joined an American firm's technology division, working on their website as a Senior Full-Stack Developer.

Now, as proof of our work for technology clients from 2007 through 2019, we provided reference letters from the clients describing each project, the letters of inception and tax-registration (it was a propreitorship) as well as invoices and contracts for almost all of our technology projects.

In her company, her designation was Founder and CTO. And while we never had more than 5-members in the tech-team, out of 15-total employees, she was involved directly in every aspect of the project - from architecture design to programming, testing, bug-fixing and deployment - sometimes even documentation.

So now, here is the point of contention that OINP people have referred to in their letter:
"In order to continue the assessment of your application, further information and/or documentation is required to verify the following program criteria:

1) You must have at least one year of continuous paid full-time work experience, or the equivalent in paid part-time work experience, within the five years prior to the date of application submission.

o Please note that your eligible work experience in your application should be consistent with the NOC code in your Express Entry profile. If there is a discrepancy between the NOC provided in your application and in your Express Entry profile, you will be assessed against the NOC code in your Express Entry profile.

The NOC code associated with your Express Entry profile is 2174. Please confirm:

• The appropriate NOC to classify your job duties as a Proprietor and CTO with <company name>, and

• If the primary NOC code in your Express Entry profile is the appropriate NOC to classify your duties in the above mentioned role. If you select a new NOC, please submit confirmation that you have updated your Express Entry profile accordingly (i.e. EE profile number if different, screenshot of NOC selected, etc.)."

Now the main thing they require us to confirm is whether her NOC is the correct one for "Proprietor and CTO" job duties - and while she did have to perform admin and accounting tasks (not sales), amongst other things, she was primarily a programmer working as a team leader. The designation was more for the clients rather than internal operations.

So my question to all of you are these:

• How do we convey the message to OINP that our organization's tech department was really small and she was essentially working as a programmer (maybe senior level slightly) alongside some other duties - will a letter stating her responsibilities in her company (along with all her client-reference letters) on a company letterhead be adequate?
• As she was the propreitor and the highest authority in the business, can she sign that letter herself?
• Is there any other way of informing them that while the NOC code is 2174, her designation was more symbolic rather than an accurate representation of her job duties at her own company?

Thank you all for taking the time to read this and for all your inputs.

Hey, I understand your dilemma. I would suggest that you get a reference letter signed by some other persons who was working at the same level as her
(excluding yourself and her) you can describe the roles and responsibilities based on the NOC code given. More over you can give a letter of explanation (LOE) in which you describe her position more explicitly to the OINP folks. In the letter also mention how you have attached the client references and other intel to support your position. This is what I can say you can do. There could be more, but I would suggest posting this scenario at different forums to get an idea as to how to give a appropriate response to them.
Hope this helps !

 

[SlyDigits]

Hey, I understand your dilemma. I would suggest that you get a reference letter signed by some other persons who was working at the same level as her
(excluding yourself and her) you can describe the roles and responsibilities based on the NOC code given. More over you can give a letter of explanation (LOE) in which you describe her position more explicitly to the OINP folks. In the letter also mention how you have attached the client references and other intel to support your position. This is what I can say you can do. There could be more, but I would suggest posting this scenario at different forums to get an idea as to how to give a appropriate response to them.
Hope this helps !

Thank you for the reply. As of now, the response I have received points in the same direction as the one you've mentioned - although someone else mentioned making it a "self-affidavit" on stamp paper with notarization - alongside the Letter of Explanation.

There is no one else who was at the same level as her (not even me) so that may be out of the potential solution scenarios. Thanks once again.

 

[DhivyaDia]

Thank you for the reply. As of now, the response I have received points in the same direction as the one you've mentioned - although someone else mentioned making it a "self-affidavit" on stamp paper with notarization - alongside the Letter of Explanation.

There is no one else who was at the same level as her (not even me) so that may be out of the potential solution scenarios. Thanks once again.

The notarizarion sounds great. You can also show documents which points towards your wife being the proprietor of the company for that period, you may have some IT records from the government etc.

 

[SlyDigits]

The notarizarion sounds great. You can also show documents which points towards your wife being the proprietor of the company for that period, you may have some IT records from the government etc.

Yeah - IT records (last 6-years), Current Account statements for business, client reference letters from across the12-years; Most of the Invoices raised across 12-years, details of all payments received (mainly internationally), Service tax and GST registration, and letter from CA - all of these were already in.

Not sure what else we can add besides that self-affidavit - also not sure if that is the ultimate solution or not because there doesn't seem to be any prescribed approach to solving this problem.