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Filipina2019!

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I created an Express Entry profile but my profile resulted to be ineligible even when the result of my eligibility test said I was eligible to apply for Express Entry. Does that mean I did not reach the minimum points for an Express Entry profile? I tried using the online CRS calculator and got only 343 total points.
You probably answered a question incorrectly. Agreed you should post your questions to the Express Entry section of the forum. Note that you need to have around 460 points to be selected through EE.
@scylla Thank you. I think I understand about being able to have around 460 points to be selected (which I understand means the same as "invited"). Please correct me if I'm wrong with my understanding. What confuses me is about my EE profile being marked as ineligible just a few minutes after submitting it. I've created a total of 4 profiles, one after another everytime the previous one was marked ineligible. Doesn't a profile once submitted supposed to be just waiting in the pool to get selected/invited and will just automatically expire after 12 months if not selected/invited? Or will the profile you submit get rejected right away if your points is below minimum, just like what happened to mine?
 

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19/09/2019
@scylla Thank you. I think I understand about being able to have around 460 points to be selected (which I understand means the same as "invited"). Please correct me if I'm wrong with my understanding. What confuses me is about my EE profile being marked as ineligible just a few minutes after submitting it. I've created a total of 4 profiles, one after another everytime the previous one was marked ineligible. Doesn't a profile once submitted supposed to be just waiting in the pool to get selected/invited and will just automatically expire after 12 months if not selected/invited? Or will the profile you submit get rejected right away if your points is below minimum, just like what happened to mine?
Is your job experience in NOC C or D?
How many family members did you select, and did you chose correct funds for family size?
 

Filipina2019!

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Is your job experience in NOC C or D?
How many family members did you select, and did you chose correct funds for family size?
I selected "1" family member as the instruction said that "yourself" is counted. I am the lone applicant, no other family member joining me. The fund I selected was $12,699 and up.

My primary concern here is not really to know the reason why my profile is rejected. Perhaps it would just help if someone could confirm to me that the ineligibility of profile is actually based on the total points (mine is only 343 which is below the minimum points that usually get the invitation) or if it could possibly be because there must be inconsistency/mistakes in my profile. If the latter is the case then I could just create a profile again and make sure all of the information I provide is consistent and meets the requirement. But if it's the first, then I prolly can't do anything else until I get a provincial nomination (which I think is the only hope I have for my points to increase and be eligible to submit an EE.)
 

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I selected "1" family member as the instruction said that "yourself" is counted. I am the lone applicant, no other family member joining me. The fund I selected was $12,699 and up.

My primary concern here is not really to know the reason why my profile is rejected. Perhaps it would just help if someone could confirm to me that the ineligibility of profile is actually based on the total points (mine is only 343 which is below the minimum points that usually get the invitation) or if it could possibly be because there must be inconsistency/mistakes in my profile. If the latter is the case then I could just create a profile again and make sure all of the information I provide is consistent and meets the requirement. But if it's the first, then I prolly can't do anything else until I get a provincial nomination (which I think is the only hope I have for my points to increase and be eligible to submit an EE.)
The eligibility has nothing to do with your CRS points. You have to be eligible under FSW, CEC, or FST class before you can get CRS points.

The fact that your profile is being found ineligible means that you do not meet the eligibility requirements.

1. FSW: You need 67/100 points (this is NOT the same as CRS points) - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/federal-skilled-workers.html

2. CEC:https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/canadian-experience-class.html

3. FST: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/skilled-trades.html

If you don't meet the eligibility requirements for Express Entry, you're never going to get to the stage of getting CRS points.
 

Filipina2019!

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The eligibility has nothing to do with your CRS points. You have to be eligible under FSW, CEC, or FST class before you can get CRS points.

The fact that your profile is being found ineligible means that you do not meet the eligibility requirements.

1. FSW: You need 67/100 points (this is NOT the same as CRS points) - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/federal-skilled-workers.html

2. CEC:https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/canadian-experience-class.html

3. FST: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/skilled-trades.html

If you don't meet the eligibility requirements for Express Entry, you're never going to get to the stage of getting CRS points.
Thank you for the links. I've read those already before but I guess I had to read them again to realize what I must be missing. I've reread the minimum requirements of those 3 just now especially FSW's and I think my profile ineligibility has to do with my skilled work experience. Thank you!
 

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Thank you for the links. I've read those already before but I guess I had to read them again to realize what I must be missing. I've reread the minimum requirements of those 3 just now especially FSW's and I think my profile ineligibility has to do with my skilled work experience. Thank you!
Just focus on FSW since you obviously won't qualify for CEC (no Canadian work experience), and you probably don't qualify for FST (trades).

Do you have one continuous year of skilled work experience?
 

Filipina2019!

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Just focus on FSW since you obviously won't qualify for CEC (no Canadian work experience), and you probably don't qualify for FST (trades).

Do you have one continuous year of skilled work experience?
Thank you, @21Goose . I did have more than 4 years of work experience that I think falls under Skill Level B. That was a continuous job from 2010 to 2015, which still covers the last 10 years or even the last 5 years.

With my current job tho, which is by the way a different Skill Level (A) from my past job, I have yet to reach my 1st year. I still have two more months to complete a year.

I guess what makes my profile ineligible is because I put my current job's NOC as my primary occupation, which isn't a one continuous year just yet. But if I remember it right, in my very first EE profile creation, the primary occupation I used was my past job's NOC, which is more than a year of continuous work, but still my profile was rejected. So I still can't quite get a full grasp yet of what I am missing.
 

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Thank you, @21Goose . I did have more than 4 years of work experience that I think falls under Skill Level B. That was a continuous job from 2010 to 2015, which still covers the last 10 years or even the last 5 years.

With my current job tho, which is by the way a different Skill Level (A) from my past job, I have yet to reach my 1st year. I still have two more months to complete a year.

I guess what makes my profile ineligible is because I put my current job's NOC as my primary occupation, which isn't a one continuous year just yet. But if I remember it right, in my very first EE profile creation, the primary occupation I used was my past job's NOC, which is more than a year of continuous work, but still my profile was rejected. So I still can't quite get a full grasp yet of what I am missing.
Post your full profile here.
 

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Post your full profile here.
34 years old, Single/no kids, No job offer in Canada, No provincial nomination (but I have an active EOI in MPNP), my only relative in Canada is my first cousin (our mothers are sisters), with friends in Canada
Work:
*Marketing Coordinator (Nov 2018-present. This is a remote job. My employer is in the US. Full-time; 40hrs/week. I think its NOC is 4163 - Skill Level A)
*Bid Support Specialist (2010-2015, 4years and 9mos total. Full-time; 45hrs/week. My job responsibilities here were close to Admin Assitants' so I think its NOC is 1241 - Skill Level B)​
Education:
*Bachelor of Science in Business Administration major in Marketing (2002-2007 but it was actually 4.5years total of study since I stopped 1 semester in between. I'm quite unsure here if I should put 4 years or round it off to 5 in my EE profile (pls advise). With ECA from WES; Canadian equivalency is Diploma 2 years)
*National Certificate II in Caregiving (6-month training. Without ECA.)​
Language:
IELTS General (English)
Speaking - 7
Writing - 7
Reading - 6.5
Listening - 6​

I hope I didn't miss anything important. Thank you in advance for your opinion, @21Goose !





 

21Goose

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You only get 65/100 so you're 2 points short and don't qualify for FSW. You need to increase your IELTS scores to qualify.

However, even if you maxed out your IELTS scores (CLB 10 in all), you would only get 392 CRS points. That's much too low to be invited directly. Your only hope would be the PNP program, but I don't think you'd have a strong chance there.

Unfortunately, as it stands, your chances of immigrating through the Economic Class are very very low.
 

Filipina2019!

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You only get 65/100 so you're 2 points short and don't qualify for FSW. You need to increase your IELTS scores to qualify.

However, even if you maxed out your IELTS scores (CLB 10 in all), you would only get 392 CRS points. That's much too low to be invited directly. Your only hope would be the PNP program, but I don't think you'd have a strong chance there.

Unfortunately, as it stands, your chances of immigrating through the Economic Class are very very low.
It looks like you are right. :( Can you think of any pathways I could get a high, even moderate, chance of getting in? Right now I just don't know anything else. I have had two consecutive travel visa refusals recently and a study permit (which I have been considering) would highly likely give me another refusal. :(

I do have a boyfriend in Canada and marriage isn't a priority of us, so that won't count as a way for me to come to Canada :( My situation seems hopeless.
 

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It looks like you are right. :( Can you think of any pathways I could get a high, even moderate, chance of getting in? Right now I just don't know anything else. I have had two consecutive travel visa refusals recently and a study permit (which I have been considering) would highly likely give me another refusal. :(

I do have a boyfriend in Canada and marriage isn't a priority of us, so that won't count as a way for me to come to Canada :( My situation seems hopeless.
Spousal Sponsorship would appear to be the most realistic route. You don't have to marry, just live together for a year. If that's not an option, then I don't think you have a way of immigrating. You'd need to do something like get a job offer (extremely difficult) or get a Master's/PhD (will take time/money, you'll lose points for age while you get the degree).

A study permit is likely to be denied unless it's clear that you're a genuine student. It doesn't sound like that - sounds like you just want to get to Canada, and your history will work against you.

What is your reason for wanting to immigrate?
 

Filipina2019!

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Spousal Sponsorship would appear to be the most realistic route. You don't have to marry, just live together for a year. If that's not an option, then I don't think you have a way of immigrating. You'd need to do something like get a job offer (extremely difficult) or get a Master's/PhD (will take time/money, you'll lose points for age while you get the degree).

A study permit is likely to be denied unless it's clear that you're a genuine student. It doesn't sound like that - sounds like you just want to get to Canada, and your history will work against you.

What is your reason for wanting to immigrate?
But living together only means he has to be the one to come over and live with me in my home country (considering that I myself can't come to Canada), which is a common-law partnership, doesn't it? But how about "conjugal partner". If I understood it correctly, conjugal partner doesn't have to be living together with the Canadian citizen but has to be in a relationship with him for at least year (with, of course, a conjugal setup like joint bank account, etc.). I wonder if we eventually apply for a Spousal Sponsorship, can we identify myself as his "conjugal partner" instead of "common-law partner"? I'm leaning more to conjugal partnership because I don't think my boyfriend could leave Canada for a year long to live with me here because of his work, so a common-law partnership is less likely to happen. And also, since I got refused with my travel visa twice with the purpose of visiting him and all the other reasons such as the options of study permit and Express Entry/FSW that reflect my low chance of coming to Canada, maybe those could be the immigration impediments we could say to justify our inability to cohabit.

What do you think?
 

Filipina2019!

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What is your reason for wanting to immigrate?
I and my boyfriend just really wanted me to come to Canada for a vacation, just so I could experience the life there with him and meet his loved ones. He had come over to visit me twice and we just wanted to have my turn to do the same. But unfortunately, my travel visas were refused.

So now we've come to the point of giving up the TRV and considering other options for me instead which include immigrating there instead.
 

21Goose

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But living together only means he has to be the one to come over and live with me in my home country (considering that I myself can't come to Canada), which is a common-law partnership, doesn't it? But how about "conjugal partner". If I understood it correctly, conjugal partner doesn't have to be living together with the Canadian citizen but has to be in a relationship with him for at least year (with, of course, a conjugal setup like joint bank account, etc.). I wonder if we eventually apply for a Spousal Sponsorship, can we identify myself as his "conjugal partner" instead of "common-law partner"? I'm leaning more to conjugal partnership because I don't think my boyfriend could leave Canada for a year long to live with me here because of his work, so a common-law partnership is less likely to happen. And also, since I got refused with my travel visa twice with the purpose of visiting him and all the other reasons such as the options of study permit and Express Entry/FSW that reflect my low chance of coming to Canada, maybe those could be the immigration impediments we could say to justify our inability to cohabit.

What do you think?
No, you do not qualify as a conjugal partner. Nothing is stopping your boyfriend from living with you. You're guaranteed to be refused .