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NOC code 1212 - Non supervisor position

Jan 17, 2017
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Hello,

I have consulted few lawyers and immigration consultants regarding my PR application but I have got contradictory advise on my application.
My job title is Account Payable Analyst and 80% of my duties fall under noc code 1212 however I have been told by a lawyer that as I do not supervise anybody I cannot apply under noc 1212 and other immigration consultants told me that I could.
Is there anybody who got the PR under noc 1212 without supervising people ?

Thanks!!
 

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Christianetoronto said:
I have consulted few lawyers and immigration consultants regarding my PR application but I have got contradictory advise on my application.
My job title is Account Payable Analyst and 80% of my duties fall under noc code 1212 however I have been told by a lawyer that as I do not supervise anybody I cannot apply under noc 1212 and other immigration consultants told me that I could.
Is there anybody who got the PR under noc 1212 without supervising people ?
The lead statement for the NOC is "Supervisors in this unit group supervise and co-ordinate the activities of workers..." I cannot see how it is possible that 80% of your duties fall in this NOC if you are not a supervisor - feel free to post your duties if you want to explore further.

There's nothing stopping you from applying, but you will be refused if you are not a supervisor. Sounds like some immigration consultants just want your money.
 
Jan 17, 2017
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The AP Clerk processors work for our outsource company based in India so I do not supervise them but I do make sure they process all the AP clerical duties correctly.

My duties include :
- Review, improve and implement procedures to ensure efficient functioning of accounts payable department
-Examine and verify accuracy of work and authorize routine payments, credits and other transactions
- Investigate and resolve problems associated with AP processing & prepare and submit progress and other reports
- Identify training needs and train workers on AP processes
- Ensure smooth operation of computer systems and equipment and arrange for maintenance and repair work
- Ensure compliance with internal control procedures - communicating problems in operations, unwarranted deviations from established standards, and violations of policy or law.

Most of the job title in the NOC code 1212 are supervisor position however some of them do not mention supervisor in the title like Account Payable Analyst - billing co-ordinator - assistant accountant - assistant bank accountant. I find it a bit confusing.
Are you sure the application would be refused with this noc code if I'm not a supervisor ?
 

jes_ON

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13-Aug-2010
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30-Jun-2011
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12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
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No, not 100% sure, it's up to the VO to interpret. One thing in your favour is that it is NOT a managerial NOC, so it is possible that it would be accepted, but ... it will still probably require secondary review.

Suggest emailing ESDC and asking their opinion. Their opinion is not binding on IRCC, but it may help.

NC-NOC-CNP-GD@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca.
 

ReenaMistry

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The AP Clerk processors work for our outsource company based in India so I do not supervise them but I do make sure they process all the AP clerical duties correctly.

My duties include :
- Review, improve and implement procedures to ensure efficient functioning of accounts payable department
-Examine and verify accuracy of work and authorize routine payments, credits and other transactions
- Investigate and resolve problems associated with AP processing & prepare and submit progress and other reports
- Identify training needs and train workers on AP processes
- Ensure smooth operation of computer systems and equipment and arrange for maintenance and repair work
- Ensure compliance with internal control procedures - communicating problems in operations, unwarranted deviations from established standards, and violations of policy or law.

Most of the job title in the NOC code 1212 are supervisor position however some of them do not mention supervisor in the title like Account Payable Analyst - billing co-ordinator - assistant accountant - assistant bank accountant. I find it a bit confusing.
Are you sure the application would be refused with this noc code if I'm not a supervisor ?
Hey! Can you let me know the progress of your application? was it accepted?
 

Anthoniaoye

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Sep 27, 2019
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PLEASE HELP: I AM CONFUSED AS TO WHICH NOC TO USE FOR MY PR VISA APPLICATION


I joined the services of a bank in 2009 and i'm presently a banking officer working 45 hours a week..
My job duties as outlined in my employer reference letter are:

A) Job title- Head Financial Transactions:

supervise all cash unit activities( Teller and ATM management)
carry out regular spot checks in the teller's cubicle to evacuate excess cash, prevent voucher suppression or fraud of any kind.
Secondary key custodian to ATM / Breaking of ATM combination.
Manage all vault activities; vault in/out activities, vault cash indent/requisition, vault cash evacuation via the cash requisition workflow and ensure that proper approval is sought in cases where overnight vault limit will be exceeded for any reason.
Receive and handling of any teller cash requisition.
Modify and approve cash transactions above subordinates limit.
Ensure all reversed transactions are signed and stamped by two authorized officers.
Ensure prompt handling of cheque confirmation.
Review customer account history for unusual lodgments/ payments prior to payments or collection.
Supervise the reconciliation of all Tellers and ATM till
Ensure that branch ATMs are fully functional at all times; in the case of faults, guarantee timely and efficient solution management measures are in place.
Monitoring of the volume of cash in circulation and vault( effective vault treasury management).
Ensure the provision of cash to all agencies/QSPs that act as a mini branch.
Drive the provision of equipment like Note counting machines, ATM machines, computer systems etc where and when needed.
Comply with the principles and policies in the information security handbook.
Maintain the security of all information entrusted to staff.
Authorize and verify cheque confirmation setup
Ensure customers photograph are captured for all intersol-third party transactions.
Verify (where necessary)all transactions consummated over the payment and collection platforms.
Review exceptions report generated for un-ranged customer cheque honored/paid on daily basis.
Verify and process funds transfers such as Loca and domestic transfer to other banks.
Process the sale/purchase of BDC ( PTA and BTA) and issuance of travelers cheque.
Western union/MoneyGram transactions with adequate reconciliation.
Processing of fixed deposit investments.
Process all treasury requests..

Other job duties that i performed during this 10 years include

B) Head, Local services.
C) Team Lead, Financial transactions.
C) Customer service officer.
D) Credit and Treasury officer
 

Vickyd

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Jul 16, 2020
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The AP Clerk processors work for our outsource company based in India so I do not supervise them but I do make sure they process all the AP clerical duties correctly.

My duties include :
- Review, improve and implement procedures to ensure efficient functioning of accounts payable department
-Examine and verify accuracy of work and authorize routine payments, credits and other transactions
- Investigate and resolve problems associated with AP processing & prepare and submit progress and other reports
- Identify training needs and train workers on AP processes
- Ensure smooth operation of computer systems and equipment and arrange for maintenance and repair work
- Ensure compliance with internal control procedures - communicating problems in operations, unwarranted deviations from established standards, and violations of policy or law.

Most of the job title in the NOC code 1212 are supervisor position however some of them do not mention supervisor in the title like Account Payable Analyst - billing co-ordinator - assistant accountant - assistant bank accountant. I find it a bit confusing.
Are you sure the application would be refused with this noc code if I'm not a supervisor ?
Hi. Did this work for you ?
 

Rajat Gupta

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Nov 27, 2022
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The AP Clerk processors work for our outsource company based in India so I do not supervise them but I do make sure they process all the AP clerical duties correctly.

My duties include :
- Review, improve and implement procedures to ensure efficient functioning of accounts payable department
-Examine and verify accuracy of work and authorize routine payments, credits and other transactions
- Investigate and resolve problems associated with AP processing & prepare and submit progress and other reports
- Identify training needs and train workers on AP processes
- Ensure smooth operation of computer systems and equipment and arrange for maintenance and repair work
- Ensure compliance with internal control procedures - communicating problems in operations, unwarranted deviations from established standards, and violations of policy or law.

Most of the job title in the NOC code 1212 are supervisor position however some of them do not mention supervisor in the title like Account Payable Analyst - billing co-ordinator - assistant accountant - assistant bank accountant. I find it a bit confusing.
Are you sure the application would be refused with this noc code if I'm not a supervisor ?
Did this work for you? Is your application accepted by visa officers.