refugee claim refused

[cherisha]

You also get access to education, healthcare (more programs than Candians actually), infrastructure, etc. so you aren't payinf taxes for nothing while you wait to hear about your asylum result.

I do not actually agree to a point where you say benefits more than Canadians, I am sorry. I had paid so far $450 out of my pocket for medical need not including the medication when I was sick in winter. the OHIP and IFHP are not the same. also we do not get even approved for a credit card because of the status and for everything we pay a deposit to avail the service( which I am not at all complaining) my only point is not to think we avail benefit above the Canadians. We are grateful to Canada always as every minute I breath in I realise i am in a safer place alive.
I am happy to pay tax and even more for utilising the service, but for that reason and also because some make false claim not the genuine should be affected.

 

[cherisha]

If your educated and qualified, why wouldn’t you apply for some of the available immigration programs now and avoid the uncertainty, wait, hardship and restrictions that come with refugee status?
Time in Canada waiting for a claim, whether working or not doesn’t count because until your claim is approved, you don’t have status in Canada. That’s why it isn’t counted.

Exactly that's my point for very well educated people like us especially being graduated from a world renowned institution the option of asylum was not a token for entering the country, we could avail a better job. Its about the treat for our life and the need of immediate protection. and I believe that is the purpose this system exist.
this status we are was not our choice that was the last option.
Me personally i had lead may international forum, been a speaker at the UN headquarters for various occasion. to to opt for this hardship is not an way of miss using the system. but no words can explain the pain of nameless or stateless.

 

[cherisha]

If your evidences of being prosecuted if sent back to your home country is genuine and sufficient, then your chances of claiming asylum being approved is higher.

But if you have no proof of personal prosecutions or any evidence that suggests that you are in danger in your home country, I don't see any chances of getting a approved claim at all.

Our proof of evidence is well explained and documented but in the hearing the board member did not raise any major question on that and was just focusing on how we could have attained education from well reputed institution like London School of Economics and how I have traveled across the globe to twenty different countries. That is becoming my worry. we did mention the scholarships and sponsorship availed but worried on why this was flagged above the real threat.

 

[Buletruck]

Regardless, as you have no status during the refugee claimant process, work experience in Canada isn’t counted. That’s the rule. No point in discussing whether it’s correct or not, it just is (until it’s changed).
As you’ve been well educated, including a UK education and have travelled to all these other countries, I can only surmise that it flagged due to opportunities to claim refugee status in safe countries you had been to before. Refugees are assumed to find haven in the first safe country they enter, whether it’s the UK, Canada or Argentina. If the option is/was available from the countries you travelled to, why wasn’t your claim made there (just an observation, just trying to think like IRCC)?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

1. yes the claims should be processed in 90 days so that the work experience will be less than a year and , the it makes sense not to be counted.
2. what happens if the claim is rejected because you are educated and you can come through other process but the fact is if you cannot go back home due to fear of percussion.

1. If there weren't so many false claims and people circumventing the system, IRCC could process files faster.

2. Genuine claims are not rejected because of education or because you qualify for another stream.

 

[cherisha]

Regardless, as you have no status during the refugee claimant process, work experience in Canada isn’t counted. That’s the rule. No point in discussing whether it’s correct or not, it just is (until it’s changed).
As you’ve been well educated, including a UK education and have travelled to all these other countries, I can only surmise that it flagged due to opportunities to claim refugee status in safe countries you had been to before. Refugees are assumed to find haven in the first safe country they enter, whether it’s the UK, Canada or Argentina. If the option is/was available from the countries you travelled to, why wasn’t your claim made there (just an observation, just trying to think like IRCC)?

Thank you for your inputs.

 

[canuck78]

Exactly that's my point for very well educated people like us especially being graduated from a world renowned institution the option of asylum was not a token for entering the country, we could avail a better job. Its about the treat for our life and the need of immediate protection. and I believe that is the purpose this system exist.
this status we are was not our choice that was the last option.
Me personally i had lead may international forum, been a speaker at the UN headquarters for various occasion. to to opt for this hardship is not an way of miss using the system. but no words can explain the pain of nameless or stateless.

I do not actually agree to a point where you say benefits more than Canadians, I am sorry. I had paid so far $450 out of my pocket for medical need not including the medication when I was sick in winter. the OHIP and IFHP are not the same. also we do not get even approved for a credit card because of the status and for everything we pay a deposit to avail the service( which I am not at all complaining) my only point is not to think we avail benefit above the Canadians. We are grateful to Canada always as every minute I breath in I realise i am in a safer place alive.
I am happy to pay tax and even more for utilising the service, but for that reason and also because some make false claim not the genuine should be affected.

A medical exam is a medical exam. I would have to pay for my own medical exam for work or family immigration if I needed one. There are certain services not covered by any provincial healthcare program special exams are one of them. Private medical exams that are done for a certain purpose are not covered for anyone. You have Rx medical coverage with IFHP even if you work and have to pay the same rate as welfare recipients. Many people have to pay the full cash amount for their Rxs if they are working. There are Canadians who do not fill their medications due to cost. If you are talking over the counter medication everyone has to pay for those. Most Canadians have no access under the government to any dental care, psychologists or any form of counselling, eye exams and eye wear, physiotherapy, etc. Also there are often up to 3 month wait periods to receive healthcare coverage in many provinces even if you are a citizen. In Ontario you have to wait 3 months to get your coverage back if you have been out of the country for a certain amount of time. You may be unaware of the various provincial health plans but the IFHP is more generous than the regular provincial plans. It was created that way because there are refugees who are coming from war zones who have not received medical care in years or decades. So yes IFHP certainly covers more than say OHIP.

 

[canuck78]

I do not actually agree to a point where you say benefits more than Canadians, I am sorry. I had paid so far $450 out of my pocket for medical need not including the medication when I was sick in winter. the OHIP and IFHP are not the same. also we do not get even approved for a credit card because of the status and for everything we pay a deposit to avail the service( which I am not at all complaining) my only point is not to think we avail benefit above the Canadians. We are grateful to Canada always as every minute I breath in I realise i am in a safer place alive.
I am happy to pay tax and even more for utilising the service, but for that reason and also because some make false claim not the genuine should be affected.

Many refugees are not approved so banks are not willing to risk lending money to people without status to remain in Canada. That is just smart business sense. There are tons of posts from international students, PRs, temporary workers who have left Canada without paying off the debts and in some cases accumulated debt knowing they would leave and not pay it off. Getting things like iPhones on a 2 year phone contract and leaving a few months later.