can my son get a canadian citizenship?

[gigo07]

Hello

My father was born in Canada in 1947. Immigrated outside if canada when I was born (1973), He issued me with a Canadian citizenship. My eldest daughter was born in 2005 I made a request for citizenship for her and was easily accepted.

I was realy upset that the Canadians laws were changed on 4.2009 and according to the embassy in my country, I cant submit a request that the law is different and my son is not entitled to citizenship unless he lives in Canada for several years.
some importent questions

1) Is it possible to get citizenship through the grandfather ? (my father?)
My father, who was born in Canada, could he fulfill a request for a grandchild?

2) I got a canadian citizenship (outside of canada) many years before my son was born, when he was born i was allready a canadian citizen... maybe thaf can help...

3) Is there another way, perhaps to argue that it is problematic for a father and daughter to have a citizenship and my son (the same family) without citizenship??

4) Maybe a sponsor? In my understanding, sponsorship still requires him to travel for a few years in Canada.

I would be happy to help you if there is any way to prevent "discrimination"
My son vs daughter ??

Thanks in advance
aslrw0909@gmail.com

 

[Jets13]

Hello

My father was born in Canada in 1947. Immigrated outside if canada when I was born (1973), He issued me with a Canadian citizenship. My eldest daughter was born in 2005 I made a request for citizenship for her and was easily accepted.

I was realy upset that the Canadians laws were changed on 4.2009 and according to the embassy in my country, I cant submit a request that the law is different and my son is not entitled to citizenship unless he lives in Canada for several years.
some importent questions

1) Is it possible to get citizenship through the grandfather ? (my father?)
My father, who was born in Canada, could he fulfill a request for a grandchild?

2) I got a canadian citizenship (outside of canada) many years before my son was born, when he was born i was allready a canadian citizen... maybe thaf can help...

3) Is there another way, perhaps to argue that it is problematic for a father and daughter to have a citizenship and my son (the same family) without citizenship??

4) Maybe a sponsor? In my understanding, sponsorship still requires him to travel for a few years in Canada.

I would be happy to help you if there is any way to prevent "discrimination"
My son vs daughter ??

Thanks in advance
aslrw0909@gmail.com

Hi I do not believe you are being discriminated against....those are the rules. To me it makes sense, when you are a citizen of a country that country has certain obligations to protect you, the further generations you go being born outside of Canada wouldn't you lose your connection to Canada?

Here is the changes:
"The new law limits citizenship by descent to one generation born outside Canada. ... Children born on or after 17 April 2009 as second and subsequent generations born abroad have no claim to Canadian citizenship other than naturalization or adoption."

What nationality is your son? How old is he? What status does he have in Canada now? Sponsorship may not be that easy, would depend on a few things.
Also its not travel for a few years in Canada but live here "You must be physically present in Canada as a permanent resident for 1,095 days within the five (5) years immediately before applying for citizenship"

But living in Canada would depend on your answers to his status here.

 

[gigo07]

Hi I do not believe you are being discriminated against....those are the rules. To me it makes sense, when you are a citizen of a country that country has certain obligations to protect you, the further generations you go being born outside of Canada wouldn't you lose your connection to Canada?

Here is the changes:
"The new law limits citizenship by descent to one generation born outside Canada. ... Children born on or after 17 April 2009 as second and subsequent generations born abroad have no claim to Canadian citizenship other than naturalization or adoption."

What nationality is your son? How old is he? What status does he have in Canada now? Sponsorship may not be that easy, would depend on a few things.
Also its not travel for a few years in Canada but live here "You must be physically present in Canada as a permanent resident for 1,095 days within the five (5) years immediately before applying for citizenship"

But living in Canada would depend on your answers to his status here.

believe you are being discriminated - one son is a canadian citizen and 4 years younger brother isn't canadian because he was born 6 months after 4.2009.
imagine your family - one son has and the other does not have... how can you explain it to him when he is a bit older ?

 

[scylla]

The only option available for your son is for you to sponsor him for PR. He does not qualify for citizenship by descent. The PR application must be received before he turns 22 year old. To be approved, you must show that you have plans to relocate to Canada and live here once your son's PR visa is approved. You / your son will then have to live in Canada once he becomes a PR to qualify for citizenship.

 

[gigo07]

ok. thanks for your response..

 

[zardoz]

believe you are being discriminated - one son is a canadian citizen and 4 years younger brother isn't canadian because he was born 6 months after 4.2009.
imagine your family - one son has and the other does not have... how can you explain it to him when he is a bit older ?

That is however, the current Canadian citizenship legislation. There are no shortcuts and it's not discrimination. It applies to everyone.

 

[zardoz]

Just to add the following, based on the current Canadian citizenship legislation.

The child who is already a Canadian citizen by descent cannot pass on Canadian citizenship to their child by descent.
If your other child becomes a Canadian citizen by grant (naturalisation), they can pass on Canadian citizenship to their children by descent.

Be aware that the legislation can change at any time in the future, to either your advantage or disadvantage.

 

[canuck78]

Not sure why you think you are being discriminated against. You never lived in Canada and have not tried to resettle in Canada as an adult but you believe your children deserve citizenship. Many people were passing on citizenship to future generations but never lived or contributed to Canada. They all of a sudden use their Canadian citizenship in emergency situations and needed something like a rescue, etc. You aren’t living in Canada so your son and daughter are leading similar lives so not sure how it is problematic that one of your children don’t have Canadian citizenship. If you are married your wife also doesn’t have Canadian citizenship.


You don’t have grounds to sue. If you want to take the government to court it will be expensive and pretty pointless. If this is bothersome to you then relocate with your family to Canada for 3+ years or longer and file for citizenship.

 

[Copingwithlife]

believe you are being discriminated - one son is a canadian citizen and 4 years younger brother isn't canadian because he was born 6 months after 4.2009.
imagine your family - one son has and the other does not have... how can you explain it to him when he is a bit older ?

Simple , the Government changed the law partially based upon what happened in Lebanon years ago, and the voting public not very happy with the outcome

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadians_of_convenience

 

[Jets13]

Simple , the Government changed the law partially based upon what happened in Lebanon years ago, and the voting public not very happy with the outcome

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadians_of_convenience

Wow I did not know this. Thanks for sharing.

@gigo07 - I think you will be able to explain it very easily now when your son is older.

 

[vensak]

Actually you were lucky there. If you did not get Canadian citizenship in the past (or at least being registered with the embassy), then neither of your children would have right for the citizenship regardless if they were born before or after 2009. As there was another rule around 1970-1980 about must registration of children born abroad. And those that were not were not able to pass citizenship at all (their kids are automatically viewed as second generation abroad).

 

[Copingwithlife]

Wow I did not know this. Thanks for sharing.

@gigo07 - I think you will be able to explain it very easily now when your son is older.

No problem, from me vaguely remembering the situation, the public was very ticked off that so much money was being spent on the evacuation, and the issues around citizenship, per the link
It was enough of a uproar the Government changed the Act

 

[canuck78]

No problem, from me vaguely remembering the situation, the public was very ticked off that so much money was being spent on the evacuation, and the issues around citizenship, per the link
It was enough of a uproar the Government changed the Act

Yes I remember that as well and similar things that have happened but on a much smaller scale thus my comments about only being Canadian when needing rescues. Many of the people being rescued had never been to Canada or had not been in Canada most of their lives. Assume most are now back in Lebanon.