Aunt rejected thrice for tourist visa

[rumbalumba]

Hello,

Just want to know what steps we have to take to get my aunt from the Philippines to be able to visit us here.

She's 61, single, hasn't had a job in years, and lives alone. The reason for her rejection last time was that she did not present enough family ties in the Philippines. Not sure what we can do about that. We had found a consulting company that charges $1,000 for consultation and the whole shebang but they quoted us before they even knew of the circumstances.

I would love to bring her here, but I am not sure about how to do that. We, of course, will take care of all her expenses while she's here and obviously we will follow.all the rules - no intention of job-searching or not going back. The most important thing is we get to spend time with her, that's it.

My mom has tried to transfer her properties to my aunt's name, had tried transferring cash over so she can have her show money, etc. but so far she still hasn't gotten an approval. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Might have gotten rejected twice, not sure. Also, we had gone on trips together and she alone with my other aunt just so her passport can get stamped and have evidence of her going out of the country.

 

[kat3onah]

Hello,

Just want to know what steps we have to take to get my aunt from the Philippines to be able to visit us here.

She's 61, single, hasn't had a job in years, and lives alone. The reason for her rejection last time was that she did not present enough family ties in the Philippines. Not sure what we can do about that. We had found a consulting company that charges $1,000 for consultation and the whole shebang but they quoted us before they even knew of the circumstances.

I would love to bring her here, but I am not sure about how to do that. We, of course, will take care of all her expenses while she's here and obviously we will follow.all the rules - no intention of job-searching or not going back. The most important thing is we get to spend time with her, that's it.

My mom has tried to transfer her properties to my aunt's name, had tried transferring cash over so she can have her show money, etc. but so far she still hasn't gotten an approval. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Might have gotten rejected twice, not sure. Also, we had gone on trips together and she alone with my other aunt just so her passport can get stamped and have evidence of her going out of the country.

The first line is already a red flag

She's 61, single, hasn't had a job in years, and lives alone

It is obvious she does not have ties. It is a basic requirement that
· you must convince an immigration officer that you have ties—such as a job, home, financial assets or family—that will take you back to your home country

I am not a visa officer, but I noticed in the countries where I applied for a visa, the common denominator is to have is stable a job and money on the bank (means you can finance your travel).

My personal suggestions are :
1. Do not right away apply for another visa. Check the reasons for refusal and try to work on what it is stated.You cannot just reapply the visa and there was no change.
2. Give your aunt a business that she can manage. So there is an evidence that she has a job (source of income), thus no intention to work in Canada.
3. Have your aunt travel to other countries that require a visa. I mean just to establish that she is a tourist. A visa to the US might an advantage.
4. In your invitation letter state why you want your aunt to visit you and assure that you will take care of all her expenses and you will personally see to it that she will not overstay and she will go back to the Philippines.

 

[bellaluna]

We had found a consulting company that charges $1,000 for consultation and the whole shebang but they quoted us before they even knew of the circumstances.

My mom has tried to transfer her properties to my aunt's name, had tried transferring cash over so she can have her show money, etc. but so far she still hasn't gotten an approval. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Yikes. These were absolutely the wrong things to do.

Also, we had gone on trips together and she alone with my other aunt just so her passport can get stamped and have evidence of her going out of the country.

If all of those trips were only inside Asia, then they don't matter much for travel history.

 

[canuck78]

If your aunt isn’t working the money in her account will not match up with her earning potential so it is clear that the money was transferred into her account. The other issue is she must be able to show she can cover her own expenses. The majority of her savings are likely transferred from her family so she can’t cover her own expenses. Unfortunately TRV will continue to be refused unless major changes in her circumstances.

 

[rumbalumba]

Yikes. These were absolutely the wrong things to do.



If all of those trips were only inside Asia, then they don't matter much for travel history.

Hmmmm well we haven't paid for the consulting company but had just asked for the price.

May I ask, what should be the right steps, then? Yeah, all of the travel were within Asia and visa-free, as it is easier for her to travel within those conditions.

We aren't really sure what to do, tbh.

 

[rumbalumba]

The first line is already a red flag It is obvious she does not have ties. It is a basic requirement that
· you must convince an immigration officer that you have ties—such as a job, home, financial assets or family—that will take you back to your home country

I am not a visa officer, but I noticed in the countries where I applied for a visa, the common denominator is to have is stable a job and money on the bank (means you can finance your travel).

My personal suggestions are :
1. Do not right away apply for another visa. Check the reasons for refusal and try to work on what it is stated.You cannot just reapply the visa and there was no change.
2. Give your aunt a business that she can manage. So there is an evidence that she has a job (source of income), thus no intention to work in Canada.
3. Have your aunt travel to other countries that require a visa. I mean just to establish that she is a tourist. A visa to the US might an advantage.
4. In your invitation letter state why you want your aunt to visit you and assure that you will take care of all her expenses and you will personally see to it that she will not overstay and she will go back to the Philippines.

I have been pushing for #2 but my mom refuses to give my aunt a business on the notion that it isn't safe to own a business while you're alone ergo a small store.

As for #3...hmmm I will look into countries that require visas to enter but not as strict as Canada. Tbh, she had only gone to Singapore, HK, Vietnam and Macau...we might have to look into going on a trip which requires visa...


Thank you for the advice.

 

[rumbalumba]

If your aunt isn’t working the money in her account will not match up with her earning potential so it is clear that the money was transferred into her account. The other issue is she must be able to show she can cover her own expenses. The majority of her savings are likely transferred from her family so she can’t cover her own expenses. Unfortunately TRV will continue to be refused unless major changes in her circumstances.

Hmmm I see I see...must she get a job at 61, then? Must we give her capital for a small business? I am really not sure what to do. I don't think she'll be married any time soon...and idk how marketable she is in the job market since she hasn't held a job in a long time.

 

[canuck78]

Hmmm I see I see...must she get a job at 61, then? Must we give her capital for a small business? I am really not sure what to do. I don't think she'll be married any time soon...and idk how marketable she is in the job market since she hasn't held a job in a long time.

Even with a job she is not guaranteed a visa. It would have to be a longterm job. She can’t just start working and apply. Why doesn’t your mother visit her instead?

 

[rumbalumba]

Even with a job she is not guaranteed a visa. It would have to be a longterm job. She can’t just start working and apply. Why doesn’t your mother visit her instead?

Well, first off it's way cheaper if she can visit vs my family having to visit her. In addition, she can stay for as long as it's possible here unlike us in the family where we have our jobs and vacation days we need to consider. We are also hoping she can be considered for multiple entry visa and she can stay here for 6 months...but given that she can't even get into single-entry I'm not so sure anymore.

And of course, we want her to experience Canada, too. Most important part is of course time spent. It's just more convenient and easier and cheaper if she can come here and spend time with us.

 

[canuck78]

Well, first off it's way cheaper if she can visit vs my family having to visit her. In addition, she can stay for as long as it's possible here unlike us in the family where we have our jobs and vacation days we need to consider. We are also hoping she can be considered for multiple entry visa and she can stay here for 6 months...but given that she can't even get into single-entry I'm not so sure anymore.

And of course, we want her to experience Canada, too. Most important part is of course time spent. It's just more convenient and easier and cheaper if she can come here and spend time with us.

Given her situation she is unlikely to be granted a visa.

 

[rumbalumba]

Given her situation she is unlikely to be granted a visa.

Sigh. Apparently, we had actually tried having her run/own a business for a couple of years and she still gott rejected as well - reason being no strong family ties.

Not sure what we can do about that when she's single...

 

[bellaluna]

I have been pushing for #2 but my mom refuses to give my aunt a business on the notion that it isn't safe to own a business while you're alone ergo a small store.

As for #3...hmmm I will look into countries that require visas to enter but not as strict as Canada. Tbh, she had only gone to Singapore, HK, Vietnam and Macau...we might have to look into going on a trip which requires visa...


Thank you for the advice.

If any of you have family in the US you can visit, maybe you can meet her there. The US is surprisingly much more lax than Canada when it comes to tourist visas. If you want to start off slow, there is the usual South Korea or Japan trip that Filipinos do, but they wouldn't be as strong as the US.