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Ray of Hope - 120th Draw

James_bk_fun

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Mar 3, 2019
57
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I really hope for the mental health of everyone on here because I can see how much of a strain it’s having on you all

I thought I was looking good for the ITA before the 470 bombshell. Timed finalising my submission too late. Live and learn I guess.....
 
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Eddiesol

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Mar 22, 2019
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I really hope for the mental health of everyone on here because I can see how much of a strain it’s having on you all

I thought I was looking good for the ITA before the 470 bombshell. Timed finalising my submission too late. Live and learn I guess.....
Tell me about it I got 455 entered the pool and the next draw was 470
 

chirkut

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May 26, 2019
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Category........
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AOR Received.
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L: 8.5,R: 7, W: 7, S: 8.5
Agreed, it is very expensive in Canada compared to the US, but the numbers are not as pathetic as you think. I myself moved from US to Canada and I was given the same salary, for same employer. Its all about your profile. A good tech profile, can easily fetch what you have mentioned above. One of my friend, a cloud architect, is earning 100/hour. Can you believe it? Ofcourse, he is a consultant...
We are talking about MBA pass-outs not people with experience. People with experience indeed get paid 90k plus.
 

Eddiesol

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Mar 22, 2019
162
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As per the below thread in 2017, people observed that if there was a maintenance notice then there would not be a draw that wednesday. Just the opposite of what we are noticing now a days. So looks like there is no correlation. We will have a draw tomorrow.

https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/draws-pattern-know-when-there-will-be-a-draw.480148/
It was proven wrong on the same forum lol
Any way I'm hoping for consistent draws for the next 3 months to bring the score back to 450s
 

James_bk_fun

Star Member
Mar 3, 2019
57
22
Tell me about it I got 455 entered the pool and the next draw was 470
You and me both! 455 too.

It’s a funny system they’re using isn’t it. One month 440 is enough, next month 460 isn’t....

Still, it’s a privilege not a right and their scoring approach is clever in the way it rewards points!
 

alexross

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Jan 11, 2018
413
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Just would like to make some observations in case it maybe useful to others. This article says that Canada has received 300 percent more students from India in 2018 compared to 2015. That means the number of students have been steadily increasing from around 35000 to around 100000 per year. Now this is 100000 students in one year just from India. Almost everyone one of those 100000 students come here to get PR. Which means as soon as they finish their 8 month course, they apply for their open work permit, start working in canada and get Canadian experience. So after this, every year, there is going to be an increasing number if students entering the pool whenever they feel they have enough Canadian experience points. Canadian experience points can easily push younger candidates score to around 500 points.

Another smaller source of Canadian experience candidates are closed work permit holders from IT companies. This has increased form 2k per year in 2015 to around 9k per year now just from India.

So as the number of candidates from these two route starts filling up the ITA quota of around 80k per year, others will get squeezed out. Slowly if this trend continues it would mean the main way to PR would be by studying in Canada, working on working permit and then applying with Canadian experience.

This squeezing out process will take one or two years two complete, as right now it is the students who came in 2016 and 2017 who are completing one year of work experience now and getting in with higher points. Hence the slow but steady rise in cut off score. the 100k from 2018 will finish their one year Canadian experience in 2020 summer and start getting into the pool we will really see the score sky rocket.

Not to try to discourage anyone,but just trying to analyze what is happening and understand the long term trends.

It would appear in the future, immigrating to Canada would require coming in to study first

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cicnews.com/2019/03/students-from-india-now-outnumber-those-from-china-at-canadian-schools-0311966.html/amp
 

Punitsingh

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Jul 27, 2018
549
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It was proven wrong on the same forum lol
Any way I'm hoping for consistent draws for the next 3 months to bring the score back to 450s
Ok, there were two myths
1. Back in 2017, it was believed that a maintenance notice means no draw
2. Till few days back, it was believed that a maintenance notice means there is a draw

Both myths have been proved wrong.
So there is no relation between a draw and a maintenance notice.

Hence let’s hope for a draw tomorrow!
 

Punitsingh

Hero Member
Jul 27, 2018
549
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Just would like to make some observations in case it maybe useful to others. This article says that Canada has received 300 percent more students from India in 2018 compared to 2015. That means the number of students have been steadily increasing from around 35000 to around 100000 per year. Now this is 100000 students in one year just from India. Almost everyone one of those 100000 students come here to get PR. Which means as soon as they finish their 8 month course, they apply for their open work permit, start working in canada and get Canadian experience. So after this, every year, there is going to be an increasing number if students entering the pool whenever they feel they have enough Canadian experience points. Canadian experience points can easily push younger candidates score to around 500 points.

Another smaller source of Canadian experience candidates are closed work permit holders from IT companies. This has increased form 2k per year in 2015 to around 9k per year now just from India.

So as the number of candidates from these two route starts filling up the ITA quota of around 80k per year, others will get squeezed out. Slowly if this trend continues it would mean the main way to PR would be by studying in Canada, working on working permit and then applying with Canadian experience.

This squeezing out process will take one or two years two complete, as right now it is the students who came in 2016 and 2017 who are completing one year of work experience now and getting in with higher points. Hence the slow but steady rise in cut off score. the 100k from 2018 will finish their one year Canadian experience in 2020 summer and start getting into the pool we will really see the score sky rocket.

Not to try to discourage anyone,but just trying to analyze what is happening and understand the long term trends.

It would appear in the future, immigrating to Canada would require coming in to study first

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cicnews.com/2019/03/students-from-india-now-outnumber-those-from-china-at-canadian-schools-0311966.html/amp
This seems the very logical reason of high CRS
 
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Ican2019

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Jun 19, 2019
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Ok, there were two myths
1. Back in 2017, it was believed that a maintenance notice means no draw
2. Till few days back, it was believed that a maintenance notice means there is a draw

Both myths have been proved wrong.
So there is no relation between a draw and a maintenance notice.

Hence let’s hope for a draw tomorrow!
Yeah let's hope for a draw tomorrow:) and let the cutoff drops to atleast 460 ;) btw I'm at 460.. :rolleyes:
 
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chirkut

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May 26, 2019
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AOR Received.
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L: 8.5,R: 7, W: 7, S: 8.5
Just would like to make some observations in case it maybe useful to others. This article says that Canada has received 300 percent more students from India in 2018 compared to 2015. That means the number of students have been steadily increasing from around 35000 to around 100000 per year. Now this is 100000 students in one year just from India. Almost everyone one of those 100000 students come here to get PR. Which means as soon as they finish their 8 month course, they apply for their open work permit, start working in canada and get Canadian experience. So after this, every year, there is going to be an increasing number if students entering the pool whenever they feel they have enough Canadian experience points. Canadian experience points can easily push younger candidates score to around 500 points.

Another smaller source of Canadian experience candidates are closed work permit holders from IT companies. This has increased form 2k per year in 2015 to around 9k per year now just from India.

So as the number of candidates from these two route starts filling up the ITA quota of around 80k per year, others will get squeezed out. Slowly if this trend continues it would mean the main way to PR would be by studying in Canada, working on working permit and then applying with Canadian experience.

This squeezing out process will take one or two years two complete, as right now it is the students who came in 2016 and 2017 who are completing one year of work experience now and getting in with higher points. Hence the slow but steady rise in cut off score. the 100k from 2018 will finish their one year Canadian experience in 2020 summer and start getting into the pool we will really see the score sky rocket.

Not to try to discourage anyone,but just trying to analyze what is happening and understand the long term trends.

It would appear in the future, immigrating to Canada would require coming in to study first

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cicnews.com/2019/03/students-from-india-now-outnumber-those-from-china-at-canadian-schools-0311966.html/amp
Very True,
i know many friends of mine who have points of 490 plus, and i know some who will be completing 1 year of CEC by September..
And Canada is at the centre of the stage now with regards to immigration.
 
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Berlineyeba

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Mar 22, 2019
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Very True,
i know many friends of mine who have points of 490 plus, and i know some who will be completing 1 year of CEC by September..
And Canada is at the centre of the stage now with regards to immigration.
I think we have to start diverting our attention towards the Quebec Skilled Worker
 

Dark_Night

Star Member
Jun 14, 2019
103
46
Toronto
Just would like to make some observations in case it maybe useful to others. This article says that Canada has received 300 percent more students from India in 2018 compared to 2015. That means the number of students have been steadily increasing from around 35000 to around 100000 per year. Now this is 100000 students in one year just from India. Almost everyone one of those 100000 students come here to get PR. Which means as soon as they finish their 8 month course, they apply for their open work permit, start working in canada and get Canadian experience. So after this, every year, there is going to be an increasing number if students entering the pool whenever they feel they have enough Canadian experience points. Canadian experience points can easily push younger candidates score to around 500 points.

Another smaller source of Canadian experience candidates are closed work permit holders from IT companies. This has increased form 2k per year in 2015 to around 9k per year now just from India.

So as the number of candidates from these two route starts filling up the ITA quota of around 80k per year, others will get squeezed out. Slowly if this trend continues it would mean the main way to PR would be by studying in Canada, working on working permit and then applying with Canadian experience.

This squeezing out process will take one or two years two complete, as right now it is the students who came in 2016 and 2017 who are completing one year of work experience now and getting in with higher points. Hence the slow but steady rise in cut off score. the 100k from 2018 will finish their one year Canadian experience in 2020 summer and start getting into the pool we will really see the score sky rocket.

Not to try to discourage anyone,but just trying to analyze what is happening and understand the long term trends.

It would appear in the future, immigrating to Canada would require coming in to study first

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cicnews.com/2019/03/students-from-india-now-outnumber-those-from-china-at-canadian-schools-0311966.html/amp
So many Indian nationals wanting to leave... The Indian economy is booming and I recon it will overtake Canada in the not too distant future.
 

jricardobt

Full Member
Jun 12, 2019
21
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CURRENT INTERNAL CRS TRACKER STATUS

(Updated till 11:30 AM IST today) CRS summary of active members waiting for Golden ITA:

  • 460+ (Total 20) - bhargava.sg: 478 | dotslash227: 478 | kalex123: 475 | Kiva2014: 475 | Ekta S: 474 | priyanka93: 465 | Kiran9999: 464 | Nsidhu: 463 | Ontario@Canada: 463 | Jabya: 463 | aartivig289: 463 | Wolesimi: 463 | huesso: 462 | Mr_fabrizio: 462 | sudhach91: 462 | ajangbar001: 461 | meet0708: 461 | parth7d: 461 | Yukti2406: 461 | crjusuf: 461
  • 455-460 (Total 28) – DreamITA: 460 | epema.kz: 460 | Ican2019: 460 | Punitsingh: 459 | nadal87: 459 | MuibKhan: 458 | chirkut: 458 | Kenneth89: 458 | Herlo: 458 | Dhaval Trivedi: 458 | jollystripes: 458 | Herlo: 458 | #EEC: 457 | sarak1812: 457 | Priyasehgal22: 457 | sahils123: 457 | tharibak: 456 | royalking: 456 | phuketlove: 456 | SimonSaleh: 456 | Jasmine1998: 456 | brick8899: 456 | Angel1113: 456 | Sara890: 455 | Eddiesol: 455 | Folaroyal: 455 | yigitsk: 455 | merlz: 455
  • 450-454 (Total 35) - chirag171987: 454 | atuls: 454 | SG1507: 454 | Mspa: 454 | Sindhuja Karthikeyan: 453 | madhav_91: 453 | vivosvoco: 453 | Teenz: 453 | Maya53: 453 | Uchyann: 453 | Suhasrs: 452 | ArsheyaBegum: 452 | cdddelhi: 451 | Bageshree: 451 | praveen22: 451 | captainUT: 451 | tonydlaw24: 451 | Chuaxin1: 451 | 13nitinsharma: 450 | nehadeep: 450 | jkaur95: 450 | shamu2013: 450 | hakweye: 450 | parvin2019: 450 | ekta29: 450 | skg1988: 450 | mamuso: 450 | vmsanthosh.chn: 450 | akm_11: 450 | anusha1712: 450 | mominmalik5: 450 | mandiebraxton: 450 | xyz2017: 450 | Avmaia: 450 | kuljeetklf: 450 | Ranjitrip: 450 | Hasrat123: 450
  • 445-449 (Total 62) - Shaanoh: 449 | Div_newbie:449 | veritas1994: 449 | dappy9: 449 | Manru:449 | AnkitaShukla: 449 | a.altigani: 449 | IndianFam: 449 | prsingh: 449 | SanjibSaha: 449 | kvaram_62: 449 |nitinkalra07: 449 | Sreedev83: 449 | jricardobt: 449 | patel_d07: 448 | EnthuChap: 448 | shine04: 448 | Agarwalparesh26: 448 | Tivativalu: 448 | AmeyaGodbole: 448 | Tilly3: 448 | M2a3r4y5a6m: 448 | SimonSaleh: 448 | Hydowwu: 448 | msgill88:448 | Lazybug: 448 | NMS@: 448 | panchalch2: 448 | Dewdrops1502: 448 | matteis:447 | D'trox: 447 | Noopur_23: 447 | Ravi_15: 447 | Meer85: 447 | Flowerview: 447 | armaanwadhwa: 447| nikki1992: 447 | Saial: 447 | shaunk_redemption: 447 | Brian_natt: 447 | infectious: 447 | LKRYA: 447 | sehgaljps: 447 | Stakesarehigh28: 447 | ExpressMan: 447 | Not_Your_Donkey_Kong: 446 | Rafahul: 446 | Reet_123: 446 | Kk1234:446 | SASH8288: 446 | MynameisMTS: 446 | RochelleAlford: 446 | rahulkraju: 446 | epema.kz: 446 | prince_lords:445 | frightenedpanda: 445 | dawak: 445 | nolimits7405: 445 | Boluwaduro: 445 | asad_ali_awan: 445 | MittalM: 445 | siataheri:445 | Yiss: 445 | IeltsDream2019: 445 | MarvelousMitz: 445
  • 441-444 (Total 39) - NikSharma01:444 | NishaKirthi: 444 | Sonammahajan: 444 | mominmalik5: 444 | kadeed:444 | Jms_16: 444 | v_nitesh_k: 444 | nns14: 444 | Rohanisha: 444 | Ainpeespirant: 443 | MzBAH: 443 | gmi3001:443 | pursuit: 443 | sidra91: 443 | rharmon: 443 | seff786: 443 | seff786: 443| Lena32: 443 | aloobharta01:442 | Kiamin: 442 | tani: 442 | MV18: 442 | Dirup: 442 | Shishir Chandra Kumar: 441 | SociallyAwkward: 441 | BumbleFrisbee: 441 | Ram89: 441 | intels: 441 | Maalee: 441 | SJ24: 441 | anandthepilot: 441 | beluluba: 441 | Mukeshprasada: 441 | akhil994: 441 | Priya85: 441 | hardeepSingh: 441 | Sony K Koshy: 441 | WantToImmigrate: 441 | os32: 441
  • 435-440 (Total 17) - bluehorse:440 | Tamilan8: 440 | Chavoshhh: 440 | ppa: 440 | rovar473: 440 | Siddharth-BOM: 438 | cadiee:438 | :438 | Sara1981:438 | rdj08: 438 | Nidsy: 438 | ghvijay: 438 | Vive: 438 | Kiamin: 437 | Sam0301: 437 | sheikh.abaz: 435 | Hemilshah80: 435
  • Below 435 (Total 6) - Life79: 432 | kumsa83: 432 | Day2203: 431 | moto90: 424 | AND IND: 423 | Sdabas: 421
Please share your updated CRS score if you're not included in this list.
Hello friend, please update my score as 453!

thanks!! :)