will citizenship rule change in 2020?

[fotkifolkslove]

Hi seniors.

Is there going to be new changes in 2020 regarding the citizenship rules?

like again reverting from 3/5 to 4/6 years and other harsh requirements?

Thanks

 

[k.h.p.]

There is no legislation that will, at present, do that. However, after the election, anything is possible.

These requirements are hardly harsh. Try taking a look at citizenship requirements in other countries.

 

[fotkifolkslove]

If trudeau wins again i guess nothing will be changed. If he loses things might change. i wonder if the new party try to change the law when do you think the new law will take into effect? I mean making a new law takes time isnt it?

Also trudeau is facing lots of scandal, and looks like he will lose and new party will win.

 

[fotkifolkslove]

Scheer might win and he will certainly revert the citizenship rules.

 

[fotkifolkslove]

I will be eligible to apply under new law in may 2020 and looks like i wont be able to make it with all these politician parties running after immigrants.

 

[k.h.p.]

The making of a new law can happen within a day.

It's impossible to predict citizenship regulations in 2020 now. No one has said anything about changing them.

To reiterate, the requirements for citizenship as they are now are hardly harsh, nor would they be harsh if they required you to be in Canada for 4/6 years. Some countries never grant citizenship, others do after many more years.

 

[k300k3]

The making of a new law can happen within a day.

It's impossible to predict citizenship regulations in 2020 now. No one has said anything about changing them.

To reiterate, the requirements for citizenship as they are now are hardly harsh, nor would they be harsh if they required you to be in Canada for 4/6 years. Some countries never grant citizenship, others do after many more years.

“The making of new law can happen within a day”?????

Please do read discover Canada. First of all, a bill must be proposed. Then in House of Commons, there will be first reading , second reading , reporting stage, third reading and debating clause by clause and vote on the bill. Then it will follow similar process in senate. Finally, the bill needs to receive royal assent after being passed by both houses .

Even after passing it as a law, there usually is a date when the law will be partially effective or fully effective etc. We are in a democratic nation and no ... the making of new law cannot happen within one day.

 

[k.h.p.]

“The making of new law can happen within a day”?????

Please do read discover Canada. First of all, a bill must be proposed. Then in House of Commons, there will be first reading , second reading , reporting stage, third reading and debating clause by clause and vote on the bill. Then it will follow similar process in senate. Finally, the bill needs to receive royal assent after being passed by both houses .

Even after passing it as a law, there usually is a date when the law will be partially effective or fully effective etc. We are in a democratic nation and no ... the making of new law cannot happen within one day.

I work in legislative services, with the legislature of a province.

The legislature, or federal government, can indeed - by suspending the Standing Orders of the House of Commons and the Senate - introduce, conduct second and third readings, approve, and send the bill to the Senate for its review, all in one day. It would be a very long day, and would require unanimous support of all parties in the house, but it is theoretically possible. It has been done for security related legislation, etc. It happens frequently in the provinces.

 

[k.h.p.]

Or, when the federal government wants to legislate workers back to work, they can do it all in less than a week using the same practice: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-senators-to-resume-debate-on-legislation-to-end-canada-post-strike/

 

[k.h.p.]

The UK, when they needed to, approved a bill in 6 hours: https://globalnews.ca/news/5129201/brexit-delay-bill-uk-parliament/

Canada's constitution is based on that of the UK, so the same thing can happen with us.

 

[k300k3]

I work in legislative services, with the legislature of a province.

The legislature, or federal government, can indeed - by suspending the Standing Orders of the House of Commons and the Senate - introduce, conduct second and third readings, approve, and send the bill to the Senate for its review, all in one day. It would be a very long day, and would require unanimous support of all parties in the house, but it is theoretically possible. It has been done for security related legislation, etc. It happens frequently in the provinces.

Well citizenship is under the federal govt. let’s hope that this won’t happen like in provinces even if there’s 0.00001% chance.

 

[fotkifolkslove]

So from this page:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/act-changes/infographic-2017-2018.html

It took liberals around 2 years to pass the bill and make it a new law:

On June 19, 2017, Bill C-6 passed Parliament. Some immediate changes include:

• Requirement to intend to live in Canada once granted citizenship was repealed
• Citizenship revocation provisions only applying to dual citizens were repealed
• Minors can qualify on their own without the need to have a Canadian parent

As of October 11, 2017, new changes include:

• Required physical presence in Canada reduced to 3 out of 5 years
• Days spent in Canada before becoming a permanent resident, within 5 years of applying for citizenship, count as half days (up to 365 days) towards physical presence requirements
• Age range for language and knowledge requirements reduced to 18-54 years old
• Time required for applicants to file income taxes before applying for citizenship is reduced to 3 out of 5 years

So the idea about rules changing in 1 day is simple bogus.

 

[k.h.p.]

So from this page:

So the idea about rules changing in 1 day is simple bogus.

Most legislation takes a long time to be changed. I've worked on legislation that took 14 years to change. However, you are solidly wrong when you say it's bogus. But thanks for playing the "I think I'm smarter than you so I'll just insult you" game.

 

[k300k3]

Most legislation takes a long time to be changed. I've worked on legislation that took 14 years to change. However, you are solidly wrong when you say it's bogus. But thanks for playing the "I think I'm smarter than you so I'll just insult you" game.

Worst case scenario ... so hypothetically speaking, in 2020 January , the law will change .. and the application fee will be reimbursed to every single applicant whose case is still in process.

This can happen because that’s what CAQ govt is now trying to reimburse the fees to 18,000 applicants in Quebec .

 

[k.h.p.]

It's a principle of natural justice that if you change the eligibility requirements in a retroactive way, you will refund the application fees. It's very rare to change eligibility requirements retroactively. Normally the course of events is to change it for future applications, not past ones.

So yes, that could be a worst-case scenario.

OP asked if there were any posited changes to citizenship eligibility. I haven't heard of any being promised. I wouldn't worry about this yet.