Need guidance

[A guy in trouble]

helllo,
i am a student, my file was submitted by my agent and he had a contract with my family becouse he is my relative that we have to pay all the payment after visa mean he will do all the expenses including college fee gic and everything. but he done a fraud with us,
he applied a fake gic with my application(mean it was edited ) nd because of this i get a five year ban from canada what are things i can do .but when we asked him about it he said that he'll hire a immigration lawyer nd remove the ban whether he have to take all the fault on him as my representative or agent. is there something going to happen nd please give me good guidance i know indirectly i am the person who is responsible for this $10000 fraud in cic's vision but i am not its a misguidance by my agent. my future is in trouble because if i apply for some other country i have to mention this ban in the application. In reality i am not a fraud i am victim of it . And all the signs in my application do not match with my signs on my passport because all the forms are filled by him.
Thank you

 

[21Goose]

There's nothing much you can do. You are responsible for your application and blaming your agent for fraud won't work.

You can trying getting a lawyer, but realistically speaking your chances of getting this overturned are very very low.

If your relative is a registered consultant in Canada, you can try reporting him to ICCRC. Something tells me he's not registered..

 

[A guy in trouble]

There's nothing much you can do. You are responsible for your application and blaming your agent for fraud won't work.

You can trying getting a lawyer, but realistically speaking your chances of getting this overturned are very very low.

If your relative is a registered consultant in Canada, you can try reporting him to ICCRC. Something tells me he's not registered..

ok reporting him will be helpfull in my case or not nd if he is ready to take the blame on him then....

 

[ThrowAwayForobviousReason]

To be frank there is nothing much you can do as Ircc is under impression that you had cheated and will stay on your file.
One more thing no matter which ever consultant you approach they will never take the entire responsibilities of paying the Amount Etc..Consultancies are there just to guide you in securing a application from a Uni and to help you with the process which you got to do.

 

[A guy in trouble]

To be frank there is nothing much you can do as Ircc is under impression that you had cheated and will stay on your file.
One more thing no matter which ever consultant you approach they will never take the entire responsibilities of paying the Amount Etc..Consultancies are there just to guide you in securing a application from a Uni and to help you with the process which you got to do.

but here in india there is a lot of trouble and misguidance, people are ruining future of students for their own benifits and i am not alone who get banned for five years there are approx. 200 students from punjab and haryana state in india who are found inadmissible . at first they say that you have to pay 14 lakhs rupees after visa including one year fee plus gic but lucky one get visa they pay the amount but after visiting canada they get to know that their gic accounts are empty and the amount $10000 indian 500000 rupees were kept by the agents.
there was a case of my cousin brother who pays 15 lakhs as a package and when he enetered canada he get informed that the loa(letter of aceptnce) is fake nd the gic was also fraud but i dont know how the immigration officer provided him with the study permit . There are a variety of things happening in india .these agents thinks students future as their bussines nd my mistake is that i trusted him blindly and had lack of knowledge.

 

[Immstu]

but here in india there is a lot of trouble and misguidance, people are ruining future of students for their own benifits and i am not alone who get banned for five years there are approx. 200 students from punjab and haryana state in india who are found inadmissible . at first they say that you have to pay 14 lakhs rupees after visa including one year fee plus gic but lucky one get visa they pay the amount but after visiting canada they get to know that their gic accounts are empty and the amount $10000 indian 500000 rupees were kept by the agents.
there was a case of my cousin brother who pays 15 lakhs as a package and when he enetered canada he get informed that the loa(letter of aceptnce) is fake nd the gic was also fraud but i dont know how the immigration officer provided him with the study permit . There are a variety of things happening in india .these agents thinks students future as their bussines nd my mistake is that i trusted him blindly and had lack of knowledge.

Seems to be a case from Vinay Hari. He's an expert crook

 

[A guy in trouble]

Seems to be a case from Vinay Hari. He's an expert crook

thank god somebody gonna believe me,
no he was not vinay harry but a agent who is going on the same path he is from moga , punjab after ruining 200 students he is still advertising of pay after visa .....

 

[Immstu]

thank god somebody gonna believe me,
no he was not vinay harry but a agent who is going on the same path he is from moga , punjab after ruining 200 students he is still advertising of pay after visa .....

I believe you but the truth is no one can reverse your ban now even if the agent is convicted.

I would advise you to apply for Australia/NZ and write a detailed letter of explanation.

All the best

 

[A guy in trouble]

I believe you but the truth is no one can reverse your ban now even if the agent is convicted.

I would advise you to apply for Australia/NZ and write a detailed letter of explanation.

All the best

if a immigration lawyer is hired he/she can do something in it??

 

[Immstu]

if a immigration lawyer is hired he/she can do something in it??

You will end up wasting your money. You can give a try if you want

 

[A guy in trouble]

You will end up wasting your money. You can give a try if you want

but i can not apply for any other country i mean how other nation will give me a visa as i have blame of fraud on me nd immigration of australia and newzealand is very strict
what else i can do ?

 

[A guy in trouble]

if i collect some proofes against him that he done fraud with me then it ll be helpfull?

 

[21Goose]

There’s really nothing you can do for the current ban. You can try getting a lawyer etc. But that won’t help much. There are many cases like yours and it is very rare for a misrepresentation ban to be overturned.

Also, you will have to get a Canadian lawyer to file a case in the Canadian Federal Court. You can’t do anything in India.

Finally, there is no right of appeal. The most a Canadian lawyer can do is request the court to listen to the case. 90% chances are that the court will say no, and that’s it. You can’t do anything after that.

For future applications to other countries, you can explain what happened. It’s not impossible to get a visa after one country bans you, but of course you will find it more difficult.

Also, it gets easier as this incident recedes into the past. If you apply to Aus. right now, you will most probably be denied. If you apply after three years, it will be easier.

 

[A guy in trouble]

so the point is that i get a ban because of my poor knowledge and because of someone's fault, nd now i donot have any option to proove my innosence. ok , so the way with i left is to cross the usa border and seek asylum , thats it, like many others are doing . i tried my best to enter a nation legally but failed, but yes i will surely hire a immigration lawyer and try the last way if i get failure again then i ll choose the donkey mean crossing usa border illegly nd seeking asylum , it ll cost me about 40000 us dollr.

 

[21Goose]

so the point is that i get a ban because of my poor knowledge and because of someone's fault, nd now i donot have any option to proove my innosence. ok , so the way with i left is to cross the usa border and seek asylum , thats it, like many others are doing . i tried my best to enter a nation legally but failed, but yes i will surely hire a immigration lawyer and try the last way if i get failure again then i ll choose the donkey mean crossing usa border illegly nd seeking asylum , it ll cost me about 40000 us dollr.

Yes, that is the point.

You know you don't have a right to enter Canada, yes? As a foreign national, you have to follow the laws of the country you're applying to. If you do not follow the law, that country can choose to ban you. Every country in the world does this.

You have rights in your country of citizenship. Besides the fundamental human rights (which are not affected in your case), you don't have any rights in any other country.

Your final statement about attempting to enter Canada illegally makes it clear that you aren't really a student. You just want to get in Canada by any means possible. This is also the reason why other countries are unlikely to give you a visa. Visa officers are trained to recognize the difference between genuine students and people like you.

I don't know where you got the idea that you can just enter the US (illegally, I assume, since you won't get a US visa), and then make your way to Canada and claim asylum.

Canada follows the safe third country agreement which means that if you enter the US, you cannot claim asylum in Canada.

Instead of spending so much money on dubious methods (which may even endanger your life - people smugglers aren't exactly sending you in business class), why don't you use that money to make a better life for yourself in India?

I know this is a futile discussion, so I will simply wish you good luck, and hope that you don't put yourself in danger.