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COPR Validation Inland

Bambaleeeoo

Star Member
Sep 12, 2015
53
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Toronto
Hello guys,
Could you please clarify it for me, I have received my passport with COPR, so I as understood I have two options to activate my PR, interview (which is way too long) and flagpool at the border.

So, I was wondering does this administrative refusal at US border will affect anything in the future (I do not have US visa, can't cross the border) ?

And one more, if I just have my passport with COPR, can I already change my SIN and rest of stuff or I need to do flagpool procedure first ?

Thank you
 

abd90

Star Member
Nov 7, 2018
80
70
That refusal won't affect anything such as applying for a US visa in the future.

You would also need to get your CoPR signed (validated at the border) before you can change your SIN and other stuff.
 
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Krystine

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Dec 12, 2016
330
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Category........
CEC
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Ottawa
AOR Received.
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VISA ISSUED...
12-10-2018
LANDED..........
14-10-2018
Hello guys,
Could you please clarify it for me, I have received my passport with COPR, so I as understood I have two options to activate my PR, interview (which is way too long) and flagpool at the border.

So, I was wondering does this administrative refusal at US border will affect anything in the future (I do not have US visa, can't cross the border) ?

And one more, if I just have my passport with COPR, can I already change my SIN and rest of stuff or I need to do flagpool procedure first ?

Thank you
For flag pole, you do not need to cross the US border and hence, you do not need US visa. Once you tell the US border officer that you are there for flag poling, they will send you back to the Canadian border side so you can finish your landing formality. My partner is also from the country where requires a US visa and he did not have US visa on hand when he went for his landing to the border one month back. There was no issue at all.

Also, in order to apply for a new SIN, you will need to finish your landing formality first so that you will become the official permanent resident. You only can apply for the SIN number with COPR signed by the officer along with stamped passport.
 
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Bambaleeeoo

Star Member
Sep 12, 2015
53
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Toronto
For flag pole, you do not need to cross the US border and hence, you do not need US visa. Once you tell the US border officer that you are there for flag poling, they will send you back to the Canadian border side so you can finish your landing formality. My partner is also from the country where requires a US visa and he did not have US visa on hand when he went for his landing to the border one month back. There was no issue at all.

Also, in order to apply for a new SIN, you will need to finish your landing formality first so that you will become the official permanent resident. You only can apply for the SIN number with COPR signed by the officer along with stamped passport.
Thank you so much for replying, and where do I find the list of border offices and their times of operation ?
Or I can just show up at any of them, anytime ?
 

Krystine

Hero Member
Dec 12, 2016
330
95
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
Ottawa
AOR Received.
17-05-2018
Med's Done....
23-04-2018
Passport Req..
27-09-2018
VISA ISSUED...
12-10-2018
LANDED..........
14-10-2018
Thank you so much for replying, and where do I find the list of border offices and their times of operation ?
Or I can just show up at any of them, anytime ?
If you want flagpole, you do not need any appointment! Some borders only provide the landing service on certain times a day so it's better to call them to ask what time will be the good time to visit. You can simply check on google where is the nearest border to visit. Hope it helps :)
 

bhanuprakashn

Star Member
Sep 28, 2017
54
17
I would like to put my experience here in the forum, so that others can be prepared for all odds and evens.

I got my CoPR on Feb 19th, 2019 and it says either to book an appointment in nearby place by calling CIC toll free number or by leaving Canada and reentering at any port of entries. It also states and advises to avoid weekends and holidays as the port of entry will be busy. I didn't even think about searching others' experiences on this forum, just thinking the instructions letter is final and accurate. But, the actual issues started from here -

1. Drove to Queenston bridge on Saturday (23 Feb 19). Thought of entering US and then come back, but my instinct made me to take U Turn just after the Duty Free building that says 'Towards Canada only' and ended up at Canada officer's booth. I mentioned the purpose as 'PR Landing' and the lady officer just smiled at me and told they are not accepting any kind of immigration processing between Friday - Monday (including both days), but allowed only from Tues to Thursday (only 8 AM to midnight). It was a bit shock to me after driving for 2 hrs and coming to know the work is not going to happen, so I questioned why it is not mentioned in my instructions letter. Then she asked me to see the CBSA officer inside the building. The CBSA officer who was waiting inside the building was frustrated because I did not listen to the first officer's advice. He asked me whether I am living in Canada, I said YES. And 2 officers at the same time started telling me that they won't process immigration procedures from Friday to Monday (even for first time entering foreign nationals, but will let them into Canada and ask to get appointment). And they gave me a Fact Sheet which talks about these restrictions only at Queenston, Rainbow and Peach bridges due to high volume of visitors during weekends.
I was wondering why don't they waive this rule when they are not busy, because I was the only person in the waiting room and all officers were idle. Anyways, it's my fault that I did not check this forum before going there.

2. Drove to USA Niagara on Monday (25 Feb 19) and stayed in a hotel overnight and then returned to Canada on Tuesday (26 Feb 19) through Rainbow bridge at 8:45 AM. And the officer was not friendly again and told me to go and book appointment online as they have limit of accepting 20 applicants for a day and they were already done for the day (I mean at 8:45 AM, when they start accepting applicants from 8 AM :( ). He did not even ask me to try again after sometime.

3. Drove to Queenston (apprx 9 AM) again and repeated same steps as mentioned under point# 1. And the response from officer was "we have enough applicants that require 2 hours for processing and cann't send you to meet CBSA officer", but this time the officer was friendly and asked me to come back after 2 hours or next day.

4. Paid Canada entry toll fee and then pulled my vehicle to parking area at Duty Free building and waited till 11 AM at starbucks. Meanwhile at 11 AM some Indian students came to the same place who were trying for WP by flag poling and they were asked to leave for the day due to high volume applicants. I lost hopes of retrying after that. However, waited till 12 Pm and then drove to the booth again with no hopes, but with intention of going back to home. This time, the officer assumed that I am coming from USA (I did not tell him that I entered Canada at 9 AM from different port) and gave me yellow slip to go and meet the officer for COPR interview. :):):).

Interview was done in 5 - 10 mins and not sure why they gave me first priority over other people who were already waiting there.

I chose the 'Port of Entry' option over 'IRCC appointment by calling', to get landing document/signed COPR ASAP as part of my mortgage loan processing to avoid 15% foreign buyers tax.

So, if you are not in real hurry to get Signed COPR, please don't waste time and money by driving to the border, cause there is no guarantee of getting chance to meet the officer.
 

planetearth

Member
Oct 1, 2018
13
1
I would like to put my experience here in the forum, so that others can be prepared for all odds and evens.

I got my CoPR on Feb 19th, 2019 and it says either to book an appointment in nearby place by calling CIC toll free number or by leaving Canada and reentering at any port of entries. It also states and advises to avoid weekends and holidays as the port of entry will be busy. I didn't even think about searching others' experiences on this forum, just thinking the instructions letter is final and accurate. But, the actual issues started from here -

1. Drove to Queenston bridge on Saturday (23 Feb 19). Thought of entering US and then come back, but my instinct made me to take U Turn just after the Duty Free building that says 'Towards Canada only' and ended up at Canada officer's booth. I mentioned the purpose as 'PR Landing' and the lady officer just smiled at me and told they are not accepting any kind of immigration processing between Friday - Monday (including both days), but allowed only from Tues to Thursday (only 8 AM to midnight). It was a bit shock to me after driving for 2 hrs and coming to know the work is not going to happen, so I questioned why it is not mentioned in my instructions letter. Then she asked me to see the CBSA officer inside the building. The CBSA officer who was waiting inside the building was frustrated because I did not listen to the first officer's advice. He asked me whether I am living in Canada, I said YES. And 2 officers at the same time started telling me that they won't process immigration procedures from Friday to Monday (even for first time entering foreign nationals, but will let them into Canada and ask to get appointment). And they gave me a Fact Sheet which talks about these restrictions only at Queenston, Rainbow and Peach bridges due to high volume of visitors during weekends.
I was wondering why don't they waive this rule when they are not busy, because I was the only person in the waiting room and all officers were idle. Anyways, it's my fault that I did not check this forum before going there.

2. Drove to USA Niagara on Monday (25 Feb 19) and stayed in a hotel overnight and then returned to Canada on Tuesday (26 Feb 19) through Rainbow bridge at 8:45 AM. And the officer was not friendly again and told me to go and book appointment online as they have limit of accepting 20 applicants for a day and they were already done for the day (I mean at 8:45 AM, when they start accepting applicants from 8 AM :( ). He did not even ask me to try again after sometime.

3. Drove to Queenston (apprx 9 AM) again and repeated same steps as mentioned under point# 1. And the response from officer was "we have enough applicants that require 2 hours for processing and cann't send you to meet CBSA officer", but this time the officer was friendly and asked me to come back after 2 hours or next day.

4. Paid Canada entry toll fee and then pulled my vehicle to parking area at Duty Free building and waited till 11 AM at starbucks. Meanwhile at 11 AM some Indian students came to the same place who were trying for WP by flag poling and they were asked to leave for the day due to high volume applicants. I lost hopes of retrying after that. However, waited till 12 Pm and then drove to the booth again with no hopes, but with intention of going back to home. This time, the officer assumed that I am coming from USA (I did not tell him that I entered Canada at 9 AM from different port) and gave me yellow slip to go and meet the officer for COPR interview. :):):).

Interview was done in 5 - 10 mins and not sure why they gave me first priority over other people who were already waiting there.

I chose the 'Port of Entry' option over 'IRCC appointment by calling', to get landing document/signed COPR ASAP as part of my mortgage loan processing to avoid 15% foreign buyers tax.

So, if you are not in real hurry to get Signed COPR, please don't waste time and money by driving to the border, cause there is no guarantee of getting chance to meet the officer.
Hi @Bhanu,

You really had had some life time experience, a bitter one though.

I, therefore, am going to complete the COPR validation procedure at Service Canada near my place.

Thanks for sharing your experience. That was very informative.

-PE
 

bhanuprakashn

Star Member
Sep 28, 2017
54
17
Hi @Bhanu,

You really had had some life time experience, a bitter one though.

I, therefore, am going to complete the COPR validation procedure at Service Canada near my place.

Thanks for sharing your experience. That was very informative.

-PE
Yes. I really recommend going to IRCC office in your local area, unless you need COPR immediately or if there are any international travel plans that require PR card for re-entry.
 

Samar2012

Full Member
Nov 7, 2018
43
1
Category........
AINP
Hi Guys!!!! Anyone has any idea how we can get landing paper within Canada or how we can validate copr, as I am already in Canada.
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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Hi Guys!!!! Anyone has any idea how we can get landing paper within Canada or how we can validate copr, as I am already in Canada.
There's nothing available now due to COVID.