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LostinSpace

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So I recently lost my job due to the company I was working for downsizing. We have been progressing through the PR process for my wife as far as completion of biometrics, medical etc.
I believe I need to report my job status change to CIC, but wondering if anyone can confirm if this is required. If so, what is the best way to do this? Also does anyone know if this will negatively impact anything related to the process?

Also, this is currently a longer shot, but there is a potential that we will move to the US for work (my wife is American, I met her when I was working there several years back) as I have been interviewing with a large US company. Will this change the ability for my wife to get her Canadian PR if we end up moving to the US?

Thanks.
 

Attak

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So I recently lost my job due to the company I was working for downsizing. We have been progressing through the PR process for my wife as far as completion of biometrics, medical etc.
I believe I need to report my job status change to CIC, but wondering if anyone can confirm if this is required. If so, what is the best way to do this? Also does anyone know if this will negatively impact anything related to the process?

Also, this is currently a longer shot, but there is a potential that we will move to the US for work (my wife is American, I met her when I was working there several years back) as I have been interviewing with a large US company. Will this change the ability for my wife to get her Canadian PR if we end up moving to the US?

Thanks.
Sponsoring your wife whether outland or inland doesn't necessarily require you to maintain your job throughout the process as long as you have submitted proof of genuine relationship and cohabitation you should be fine.There is no requirement to inform cic if you don't have a job, unless you are going to be on welfare in which case you can t sponsor your wife. However depending on whether you are inland or outland you must be careful with your travelling circumstances.
 

canuck_in_uk

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So I recently lost my job due to the company I was working for downsizing. We have been progressing through the PR process for my wife as far as completion of biometrics, medical etc.
I believe I need to report my job status change to CIC, but wondering if anyone can confirm if this is required. If so, what is the best way to do this? Also does anyone know if this will negatively impact anything related to the process?

Also, this is currently a longer shot, but there is a potential that we will move to the US for work (my wife is American, I met her when I was working there several years back) as I have been interviewing with a large US company. Will this change the ability for my wife to get her Canadian PR if we end up moving to the US?

Thanks.
You don't need to inform IRCC about your job.

If you move to the US before she becomes a PR, you can expect a refusal.
 

LostinSpace

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Sponsoring your wife whether outland or inland doesn't necessarily require you to maintain your job throughout the process as long as you have submitted proof of genuine relationship and cohabitation you should be fine.There is no requirement to inform cic if you don't have a job, unless you are going to be on welfare in which case you can t sponsor your wife. However depending on whether you are inland or outland you must be careful with your travelling circumstances.
We applied Outland to allow us the flexibility to go to the US to see her friends and family so from that perspective we are ok. Definitely no welfare so I guess not something I need to be concerned with. Thanks for the info.
 

schweisy

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Really? Why is that?
You need to prove you're going to live in Canada in order for her to become a PR. I'm applying for my husband from abroad (we both live in Germany) and I had to provide as much evidence as I could that we will come live in Canada as soon as he becomes a PR. You just have to remember PR is not the same thing as citizenship, and there are residency obligations involved. (This is not to say that she couldn't later spend time with you outside the country once she has already landed and become a PR, but definitely you don't want to be doing this during the process itself.)
 

LostinSpace

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You need to prove you're going to live in Canada in order for her to become a PR. I'm applying for my husband from abroad (we both live in Germany) and I had to provide as much evidence as I could that we will come live in Canada as soon as he becomes a PR. You just have to remember PR is not the same thing as citizenship, and there are residency obligations involved. (This is not to say that she couldn't later spend time with you outside the country once she has already landed and become a PR, but definitely you don't want to be doing this during the process itself.)
Hmm interesting. Guess that’s something we’ll worry about if I end up getting an offer in the US again.
 

canuck78

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Sponsoring your wife whether outland or inland doesn't necessarily require you to maintain your job throughout the process as long as you have submitted proof of genuine relationship and cohabitation you should be fine.There is no requirement to inform cic if you don't have a job, unless you are going to be on welfare in which case you can t sponsor your wife. However depending on whether you are inland or outland you must be careful with your travelling circumstances.
You do have to show that you have enough money support you and your wife so as long as you have adequate savings that should be fine.
 

canuck_in_uk

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Really? Why is that?
If you move to the US before the app is finished processing, you will have to update IRCC with your new address. They will then request proof of intent to return to Canada. When you are unable to provide that, the app will be refused.
 

schweisy

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Hmm interesting. Guess that’s something we’ll worry about if I end up getting an offer in the US again.
I believe once she's actually landed and become a PR she can come with you if you work in another country (as long as you are still together and she is accompanying you for your work) and it doesn't affect her residency obligations, but don't quote me on this -- I've been meaning to look into what the most current rules around residency are for when you are living out of country with your partner. Either way, don't do it while you're in process for the application -- just wait until after she lands and actually has the PR to explore those options.
 

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I believe once she's actually landed and become a PR she can come with you if you work in another country (as long as you are still together and she is accompanying you for your work) and it doesn't affect her residency obligations, but don't quote me on this -- I've been meaning to look into what the most current rules around residency are for when you are living out of country with your partner. Either way, don't do it while you're in process for the application -- just wait until after she lands and actually has the PR to explore those options.
A Permanent Resident who is accompanying a Canadian citizen outside Canada is usually exempt from Residency Obligations. I say "usually" because the exact meaning of "accompanying" is sometimes a point of contention. Especially when it's very clear that the Citizen is accompanying the PR, instead of the other way around. Most of the time this isn't an issue.

There are further exemptions for PRs who are employed by the Canadian government.
 
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LostinSpace

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I believe once she's actually landed and become a PR she can come with you if you work in another country (as long as you are still together and she is accompanying you for your work) and it doesn't affect her residency obligations, but don't quote me on this -- I've been meaning to look into what the most current rules around residency are for when you are living out of country with your partner. Either way, don't do it while you're in process for the application -- just wait until after she lands and actually has the PR to explore those options.
From what I read on the CIC site, a Canadian PR has to live in Canada for 2 years out of a 5 year period, not all at once, but a minimum of ~2years.
 

21Goose

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From what I read on the CIC site, a Canadian PR has to live in Canada for 2 years out of a 5 year period, not all at once, but a minimum of ~2years.
Residency obligations require the PR to be physically present in Canada for 730 days in a rolling 5 year period, unless an exemption applies.
 

schweisy

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Dec 7, 2018
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Med's Request
19-02-2019
Med's Done....
11-03-2019
VISA ISSUED...
24-05-2019
A Permanent Resident who is accompanying a Canadian citizen outside Canada is usually exempt from Residency Obligations. I say "usually" because the exact meaning of "accompanying" is sometimes a point of contention. Especially when it's very clear that the Citizen is accompanying the PR, instead of the other way around. Most of the time this isn't an issue.

There are further exemptions for PRs who are employed by the Canadian government.
Thanks for confirming! That's basically the gist of what I remembered. I'm just a little curious/concerned for down the line if we decide we want to move back to Germany for a bit, though this might not even be an issue until retirement. I certainly don't want to have to go through this PR process repeatedly -- why my husband couldn't just have had the good sense to be born a dual citizen like me I just don't know! :p