Childbirth in canada after softlanding

[Amysaa]

Hi,

We did a soft landing, and our PR cards are with our relative. We are planning to visit there via applying PRTD We cannot settle right away because of my PhD thesis defense which is scheduled this year. We are expecting a baby, and we have decided to go for childbirth in Canada. We want this to avoid the PR sponsorship and TRV related issues for the newborn. Now we have following questions for which we would appreciate the answers. Thank you so much in advance.

1) We need to know the timeline for the following for the newborn in Canada,
a) Birth certificate
b) Canadian Passport
2) What is the procedure for getting birth certificate and canadian passport for a child born to Canadian PRs in canada?

 

[Copingwithlife]

So you did a soft landing, left, and now want to return to have a baby, and leave again ? You missed out one thing. Have you looked at the possible residency restrictions on obtaining health care coverage for the birth or were you going to pay cash yourself for the delivery of your child if you don't meet the rules? What province are you going to be in ?
I would probably be doing some homework to see what you are exactly eligible for

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-care-system/canada-health-care-system-medicare/provincial-territorial-health-care-resources.html

Other question I just googled

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-passports/children/documents-submit.html

 

[Amysaa]

Thank you so much for this information. Let's just say I am not worried about childbirth costs. I am not sure of the exact situation. We might even decide to move this time. What we are sure of is that we want the child to be born in Canada and we want to raise our children in Canada. That being said, the major concern is to be able to manage the delivery and then being able to timely complete the formalities such as birth certificate and passport of the newborn just in case we still have some pending issues to deal with back home.

 

[Amysaa]

So you did a soft landing, left, and now want to return to have a baby, and leave again ? You missed out one thing. Have you looked at the possible residency restrictions on obtaining health care coverage for the birth or were you going to pay cash yourself for the delivery of your child if you don't meet the rules? What province are you going to be in ?
I would probably be doing some homework to see what you are exactly eligible for

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-care-system/canada-health-care-system-medicare/provincial-territorial-health-care-resources.html

Other question I just googled

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-passports/children/documents-submit.html

Thank you so much for your continued interest in this case. I appreciate it, however I am looking to hear from people who have been through these processes.

 

[Copingwithlife]

Birth certificates are done provincially , Passports Federally .
You can’t apply for the passport without the birth certificate
So you’d have to use the above links , choose the province , then see time frames
Once received go thru Federal route for passport processing

 

[Copingwithlife]

Thank you so much for your continued interest in this case. I appreciate it, however I am looking to hear from people who have been through these processes.

It was giving information as requested
Good luck

 

[Amysaa]

It was giving information as requested
Good luck

Thank you so much for the help much appreciated.

 

[Amysaa]

I want to thank Copingwithlife with great insights. However if anyone went through the processes, can give more details, such as how much time it may take, and what are the formalities and procedures in detail, that would be very useful.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Thank you so much for this information. Let's just say I am not worried about childbirth costs. I am not sure of the exact situation. We might even decide to move this time. What we are sure of is that we want the child to be born in Canada and we want to raise our children in Canada. That being said, the major concern is to be able to manage the delivery and then being able to timely complete the formalities such as birth certificate and passport of the newborn just in case we still have some pending issues to deal with back home.

You aren't sure of the exact situation but are going to do it anyways? That is ridiculous. Costs should be your biggest consideration. If the are complications and you don't have health coverage, you could end up with a bill for a million dollars.

 

[Amysaa]

You aren't sure of the exact situation but are going to do it anyways? That is ridiculous. Costs should be your biggest consideration. If the are complications and you don't have health coverage, you could end up with a bill for a million dollars.

Wow. A Million dollars. That's scary. I hope that's metaphorical, isn't it?
I have seen some other pages in the same forum stating a cost of normal delivery to be within 10k cad. C'serian were higher, but never came across this huge number. I need information, and I am asking for it in a forum. I do have insurance coverage worldwide via my employer. That is why I am concerned to know more, in case I cannot resign right away, I will have to go back. In that case insurance already there. So, do you still think, I should worry about the costs?
I just checked through the links provided by copingwithlife, I cannot get the health coverage right away, so it might be better to use the employer health insurance?
I really appreciate if you be patient with me and answer that question.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Wow. A Million dollars. That's scary. I hope that's metaphorical, isn't it?
I have seen some other pages in the same forum stating a cost of normal delivery to be within 10k cad. C'serian were higher, but never came across this huge number. I need information, and I am asking for it in a forum. I do have insurance coverage worldwide via my employer. That is why I am concerned to know more, in case I cannot resign right away, I will have to go back. In that case insurance already there. Now If at that time I really can move I intend to go for Alberta where I intend to settle. This way, I am hoping to get covered from day one. So, do you still think, I should worry about the costs?
I really appreciate if you be patient with me and answer that question.

No, not metaphorical.

https://www.richmond-news.com/news/birth-and-dash-richmond-hospital-owed-1-2-million-for-skipped-neonatal-bill-1.23333820

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-baby-costs-aussie-couple-1m-1.1197529

If you actually settle in Alberta, it will be covered. If you go there, get coverage, give birth and leave, the province could come after you to repay all costs.

 

[Amysaa]

No, not metaphorical.

https://www.richmond-news.com/news/birth-and-dash-richmond-hospital-owed-1-2-million-for-skipped-neonatal-bill-1.23333820

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-baby-costs-aussie-couple-1m-1.1197529

If you actually settle in Alberta, it will be covered. If you go there, get coverage, give birth and leave, the province could come after you to repay all costs.

I intend to settle in Alberta, but the website mentioned that if you are coming from a different province there may be a waiting period. So as per my circumstances, would I still have to wait?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I intend to settle in Alberta, but the website mentioned that if you are coming from a different province there may be a waiting period. So as per my circumstances, would I still have to wait?

No.

 

[21Goose]

Wow. A Million dollars. That's scary. I hope that's metaphorical, isn't it?
I have seen some other pages in the same forum stating a cost of normal delivery to be within 10k cad. C'serian were higher, but never came across this huge number. I need information, and I am asking for it in a forum. I do have insurance coverage worldwide via my employer. That is why I am concerned to know more, in case I cannot resign right away, I will have to go back. In that case insurance already there. So, do you still think, I should worry about the costs?
I just checked through the links provided by copingwithlife, I cannot get the health coverage right away, so it might be better to use the employer health insurance?
I really appreciate if you be patient with me and answer that question.

No, healthcare is expensive in Canada. The 10k CAD scenario is a best-case scenario; if there are any complications (and I hope that there are none and you have a healthy and happy delivery. I just had a child a few months ago and I know how stressful it can be), you can easily be looking at tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars in health care costs.

The best thing for you is to go through Alberta's rules around this kind of thing. You can try contacting them as you may well be eligible.

https://www.alberta.ca/ahcip-eligibility.aspx
https://www.alberta.ca/ahcip-moving-to-alberta.aspx
https://www.alberta.ca/ahcip-contact.aspx

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[xylene]

You may also want to check with the airline if you are okay to fly especially if you are flying closer towards your due date .
Also for employer benefits, do check if the worldwide insurance only covers emergency travel and medical assistance?
Typically benefit providers only support local child birth costs.
Also keep in mind that employer insurance are benefits i.e your employer pays for it(ie if you make a claim for 100$ it is paid by the employer and not the insurance company) . The insurance company only administers the claims and take a small % as admin fee. Smaller employers insure, because they do not want to take the risk .
So if you have a complication (hopefully not) and if the insurer doesn't cover it, the employer has to approve for it to be covered.
So depending on the bill, the employer can take that call!