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My dear innocent friend….and all those who have the similar opinion regarding visit visa criteria ...do read my full post with open mind


I am not challenging their right but Visit Visa Officers must not act like “Master of Slaves” or “Gods”, as called by one of the Toronto Based lawyer in above video to them. My concerns are purely meeting a relative there who has claimed Asylum. It seems the Visa Counsels are just doing a clerical job or more precisely a robotic job and evaluating the people based on subjective, illogical and bias judgments and your mindset looks alike.


The first part of your paragraph answers the second part. For e.g If person “A” house was destroyed because of political reason or religion reason or if person A life is at risk, because of his own circumstances etc etc. But “B” is his relative and lives far away from his home, infact in other city and he is not in danger because of circumstances are very much changed. Infact, the family is also changed. So why are they working on false assumptions…… … (it is a very simple thing). I can quote 100 of examples…. This assumption may be true to an extent for people in Burma or in Palestine or in Kashmir or in Syria or in Iraq etc etc..…. but all the fingers are not alike. .. and they should not make it a Universal Truth. Plus what is the surety that a person not belonging asylum family … he will not claim asylum… they do, because their laws are asylum friendly. I know someone who claimed Asylum because he said he is interested in Gay Marriage and same is not allowed here in this culture.. LOL. So………………..?? I can quote you 100 of examples….! So it’s better they make their house in order!!


As far as the question of right is concern…… someone from Africa ( I won’t name the country for respect) met me in Dubai and he told me that in some villages, the influential rich (like landlords, feudal, owners of farms etc) take/encourage the children and women of poor for work purposes…..or for their own means. They give them good food, health and money. But they act like “Masters” and don’t allow them to meet their family members, as if they were their “Slaves”. So my question is that Do Canada think like that for Asylum Seekers in Canada, even if they are Citizens now??? The problem is “Visa Officers in Regions” and their “Immigration Department” in Canada is not on the same page!


I don’t know your age but you should know what Canada was in 90s and it was only made because the manpower, money and efforts of Immigrants. You and Bryanna talked about money….. it dot matters because if I were interested.. I could have chosen a path of Business Immigration or Entrepreneur set up etc etc. You can do everything with having large funds…. And Canada is Money Hungary Country….! Bryanna in one post said 300k+ property is not a prime….. I think she forgot ..in 2009 or 2010 Canada was giving PR on 400,000 Dollar investment in Banks.. I think she also forgot the Property Slump in Canada that made people Bankrupt more than a decade ago.. The rise of property prices are just because of the new immigrants and that is the Artificial Bubble…. Even many Asylum holders brought huge sums of money with them. Even now in British Columbia or Manitoba and etc, entrepreneurs immigration requirement are very low. So she, you and visa officers must understand the difference between real visitors and fake visitors. If I intended, I could have chosen that path either…., But since visit visa officers vision and approach are limited, they take subjective decisions and mix donkeys with horses and that’s the biggest failure… to your economy.


Another point is that an embarrassing one… people are appointing lawyers and consultants for visitor visas and once they get rejected they file appeals and judicial reviews!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. It has become a business now….!! And everyone has share in it..


LOL , if someone is going to meet ill relative how comes Travel History matters…. It’s just a joke…………………To make them fool people do make travel histories……….so??? Are they ok with them…. Because they are just bookish and have clerical mindset…! They get fooled.


“Me Approach” or “Egoistic Approach” is a very dangerous thing. Canada adopts the changes after 10 years when world have changed it already!!! In all developed countries like USA, Australia and I think UK too, there are genuine ways and means by the Govt for visiting a Family Member, but Canada has just opened the “Super Visa thing or Sponsorship or Parents & Grandparents” after decades. For instance even in US which is the most anti immigrant country, you can sponsor your close blood relatives including parents, siblings and children, even independent children… but the time of waiting varies…. depending upon the relationship. Moreover in US there is form called I-134 which is a sort of guarantee and Affidavit of Support (with strict financial undertaken) for Visitor Visa, mainly used for family visit. In Australia there is Official Bond of Financial Security to Invite family members like brother, sisters, children etc. Similarly in U.K there was a concept of Financial Security Bond, but am not sure whether now it is there or not….. So this is how developing countries are going …. ! So you are restricting genuine people and paving the way yourself to non legitimate means and to allow people to tell lies to you…!! That is why "Canada is full of Jack of All Trades but Master of None"


I can understand your feeling of paying tax. I think you did not bother to read my earlier posts above. As I mentioned earlier, it’s the fault of your country that charge high income tax from you. It does not make difference whether a person is Asylum holder or not! Don’t worry you will get more benefit of paying taxes. …My wife’s sister is living there too for decades and she is Naturalized Citizen, doing job, paying taxes and the family own multiple houses. She does support them also. But parents don’t want to live with their daughter but with their son or maybe it’s a cultural thing. It’s their choice…And im sorry to the type of health care is provided on free fund…! Why you have a private insurance then? Why the rich go to private clinics. So for rich there is a difference and for poor they have a different approach…!

In terms of inheritance laws and for money … it varies from country to country and culture to culture..and religion to religion … I am responsible for myself, my wife and for my kids. Even Canadian govt wont count my funds as their funds.. In-laws are not my family. Yes I can morally and as a good gesture still can support them and I offered them to live here and ticket and etc. or probably they will come. But till the time my father in law is ill and alive and cant travel…. my mother in law will not come here!! Unlike youngsters and adults, old age parents are very much neglected there in terms of family values. And most importantly they could have visited earlier but govt don’t allow Asylum Seekers to go to their home country, before getting the citizens….and offcourse if someone has risk because of any reason, how come he travels there!!


And please don’t be over confident, I know a lot of Pakistani Canadian Citizens and even old aged people, who prefer to live here, because they are very much comfortable here because of their business prospects, good jobs, earnings, family ties, respect, weather conditions and having facility of cheap labors in the form of maids, servants, baby sitters, cooks and drivers etc. Why Canada is expensive.?. its nothing special in it. but just the concept of "Economies of Scale" here.... Yes many poor people from here who prefer to do labor jobs in Canada, blue collar jobs like taxi driver or worker on petrol pump etc etc, they are very happy there!! And is a good heaven for them. I see many engineers, doctors, business managers and skilled labors etc from different parts of world, which become donkeys there after going there on Federal Skilled Workers. And the result is loose – loose for the government and people.Your question must be then why the apply of immigration. The answer is simple... They want to have 2nd passport because you people don't give visas easily to many nationalities.

Anyhow, I won’t respond on this post now!! Because I can’t open the eyes or mind of someone if he/she still don’t want to open. And I have more important works other than spending time on blogging.

Cheers!!





As it has already been mentioned the ability to come to Canada is a privilege not a right. Canada can choose to let in or reject as they wish. People who fled a country as their lives were at risk and were given refuge in Canada when Canada did not have to do anything should not really be talking about a lack of "fairness". If it is so unfair perhaps they should return? Like I mentioned earlier....maybe Canada doesn't want their family members to visit on a VISITOR visa because they think they will also claim asylum on a visitor visa just like the rest of the family did.

You didn't respond to my suggestion......you have so much help.....maids....servants....decades worth of wealth...perhaps you should take care of your wife's parents. Pay for your father in laws health care instead of the taxpayers. As you said....that money and land is in your name....but it is equally hers right? So why doesn't she take care of her parents? They can be together as well.
 

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So far for over 200. 000 pakistani immigrants in Canada , not knowing heaven that they're missing from their country of origin.
 

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My dear innocent friend….and all those who have the similar opinion regarding visit visa criteria ...do read my full post with open mind


I am not challenging their right but Visit Visa Officers must not act like “Master of Slaves” or “Gods”, as called by one of the Toronto Based lawyer in above video to them. My concerns are purely meeting a relative there who has claimed Asylum. It seems the Visa Counsels are just doing a clerical job or more precisely a robotic job and evaluating the people based on subjective, illogical and bias judgments and your mindset looks alike.


The first part of your paragraph answers the second part. For e.g If person “A” house was destroyed because of political reason or religion reason or if person A life is at risk, because of his own circumstances etc etc. But “B” is his relative and lives far away from his home, infact in other city and he is not in danger because of circumstances are very much changed. Infact, the family is also changed. So why are they working on false assumptions…… … (it is a very simple thing). I can quote 100 of examples…. This assumption may be true to an extent for people in Burma or in Palestine or in Kashmir or in Syria or in Iraq etc etc..…. but all the fingers are not alike. .. and they should not make it a Universal Truth. Plus what is the surety that a person not belonging asylum family … he will not claim asylum… they do, because their laws are asylum friendly. I know someone who claimed Asylum because he said he is interested in Gay Marriage and same is not allowed here in this culture.. LOL. So………………..?? I can quote you 100 of examples….! So it’s better they make their house in order!!


As far as the question of right is concern…… someone from Africa ( I won’t name the country for respect) met me in Dubai and he told me that in some villages, the influential rich (like landlords, feudal, owners of farms etc) take/encourage the children and women of poor for work purposes…..or for their own means. They give them good food, health and money. But they act like “Masters” and don’t allow them to meet their family members, as if they were their “Slaves”. So my question is that Do Canada think like that for Asylum Seekers in Canada, even if they are Citizens now??? The problem is “Visa Officers in Regions” and their “Immigration Department” in Canada is not on the same page!


I don’t know your age but you should know what Canada was in 90s and it was only made because the manpower, money and efforts of Immigrants. You and Bryanna talked about money….. it dot matters because if I were interested.. I could have chosen a path of Business Immigration or Entrepreneur set up etc etc. You can do everything with having large funds…. And Canada is Money Hungary Country….! Bryanna in one post said 300k+ property is not a prime….. I think she forgot ..in 2009 or 2010 Canada was giving PR on 400,000 Dollar investment in Banks.. I think she also forgot the Property Slump in Canada that made people Bankrupt more than a decade ago.. The rise of property prices are just because of the new immigrants and that is the Artificial Bubble…. Even many Asylum holders brought huge sums of money with them. Even now in British Columbia or Manitoba and etc, entrepreneurs immigration requirement are very low. So she, you and visa officers must understand the difference between real visitors and fake visitors. If I intended, I could have chosen that path either…., But since visit visa officers vision and approach are limited, they take subjective decisions and mix donkeys with horses and that’s the biggest failure… to your economy.


Another point is that an embarrassing one… people are appointing lawyers and consultants for visitor visas and once they get rejected they file appeals and judicial reviews!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. It has become a business now….!! And everyone has share in it..


LOL , if someone is going to meet ill relative how comes Travel History matters…. It’s just a joke…………………To make them fool people do make travel histories……….so??? Are they ok with them…. Because they are just bookish and have clerical mindset…! They get fooled.


“Me Approach” or “Egoistic Approach” is a very dangerous thing. Canada adopts the changes after 10 years when world have changed it already!!! In all developed countries like USA, Australia and I think UK too, there are genuine ways and means by the Govt for visiting a Family Member, but Canada has just opened the “Super Visa thing or Sponsorship or Parents & Grandparents” after decades. For instance even in US which is the most anti immigrant country, you can sponsor your close blood relatives including parents, siblings and children, even independent children… but the time of waiting varies…. depending upon the relationship. Moreover in US there is form called I-134 which is a sort of guarantee and Affidavit of Support (with strict financial undertaken) for Visitor Visa, mainly used for family visit. In Australia there is Official Bond of Financial Security to Invite family members like brother, sisters, children etc. Similarly in U.K there was a concept of Financial Security Bond, but am not sure whether now it is there or not….. So this is how developing countries are going …. ! So you are restricting genuine people and paving the way yourself to non legitimate means and to allow people to tell lies to you…!! That is why "Canada is full of Jack of All Trades but Master of None"


I can understand your feeling of paying tax. I think you did not bother to read my earlier posts above. As I mentioned earlier, it’s the fault of your country that charge high income tax from you. It does not make difference whether a person is Asylum holder or not! Don’t worry you will get more benefit of paying taxes. …My wife’s sister is living there too for decades and she is Naturalized Citizen, doing job, paying taxes and the family own multiple houses. She does support them also. But parents don’t want to live with their daughter but with their son or maybe it’s a cultural thing. It’s their choice…And im sorry to the type of health care is provided on free fund…! Why you have a private insurance then? Why the rich go to private clinics. So for rich there is a difference and for poor they have a different approach…!

In terms of inheritance laws and for money … it varies from country to country and culture to culture..and religion to religion … I am responsible for myself, my wife and for my kids. Even Canadian govt wont count my funds as their funds.. In-laws are not my family. Yes I can morally and as a good gesture still can support them and I offered them to live here and ticket and etc. or probably they will come. But till the time my father in law is ill and alive and cant travel…. my mother in law will not come here!! Unlike youngsters and adults, old age parents are very much neglected there in terms of family values. And most importantly they could have visited earlier but govt don’t allow Asylum Seekers to go to their home country, before getting the citizens….and offcourse if someone has risk because of any reason, how come he travels there!!


And please don’t be over confident, I know a lot of Pakistani Canadian Citizens and even old aged people, who prefer to live here, because they are very much comfortable here because of their business prospects, good jobs, earnings, family ties, respect, weather conditions and having facility of cheap labors in the form of maids, servants, baby sitters, cooks and drivers etc. Why Canada is expensive.?. its nothing special in it. but just the concept of "Economies of Scale" here.... Yes many poor people from here who prefer to do labor jobs in Canada, blue collar jobs like taxi driver or worker on petrol pump etc etc, they are very happy there!! And is a good heaven for them. I see many engineers, doctors, business managers and skilled labors etc from different parts of world, which become donkeys there after going there on Federal Skilled Workers. And the result is loose – loose for the government and people.Your question must be then why the apply of immigration. The answer is simple... They want to have 2nd passport because you people don't give visas easily to many nationalities.

Anyhow, I won’t respond on this post now!! Because I can’t open the eyes or mind of someone if he/she still don’t want to open. And I have more important works other than spending time on blogging.

Cheers!!
To be honest I have no idea what you are talking about....didn't understand half of it...lol...so I will just say this, best of luck to your wife on her visa application and I wish a speedy recovery to your father in law.
 

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My dear innocent friend….and all those who have the similar opinion regarding visit visa criteria ...do read my full post with open mind


I am not challenging their right but Visit Visa Officers must not act like “Master of Slaves” or “Gods”, as called by one of the Toronto Based lawyer in above video to them. My concerns are purely meeting a relative there who has claimed Asylum. It seems the Visa Counsels are just doing a clerical job or more precisely a robotic job and evaluating the people based on subjective, illogical and bias judgments and your mindset looks alike.


The first part of your paragraph answers the second part. For e.g If person “A” house was destroyed because of political reason or religion reason or if person A life is at risk, because of his own circumstances etc etc. But “B” is his relative and lives far away from his home, infact in other city and he is not in danger because of circumstances are very much changed. Infact, the family is also changed. So why are they working on false assumptions…… … (it is a very simple thing). I can quote 100 of examples…. This assumption may be true to an extent for people in Burma or in Palestine or in Kashmir or in Syria or in Iraq etc etc..…. but all the fingers are not alike. .. and they should not make it a Universal Truth. Plus what is the surety that a person not belonging asylum family … he will not claim asylum… they do, because their laws are asylum friendly. I know someone who claimed Asylum because he said he is interested in Gay Marriage and same is not allowed here in this culture.. LOL. So………………..?? I can quote you 100 of examples….! So it’s better they make their house in order!!


As far as the question of right is concern…… someone from Africa ( I won’t name the country for respect) met me in Dubai and he told me that in some villages, the influential rich (like landlords, feudal, owners of farms etc) take/encourage the children and women of poor for work purposes…..or for their own means. They give them good food, health and money. But they act like “Masters” and don’t allow them to meet their family members, as if they were their “Slaves”. So my question is that Do Canada think like that for Asylum Seekers in Canada, even if they are Citizens now??? The problem is “Visa Officers in Regions” and their “Immigration Department” in Canada is not on the same page!


I don’t know your age but you should know what Canada was in 90s and it was only made because the manpower, money and efforts of Immigrants. You and Bryanna talked about money….. it dot matters because if I were interested.. I could have chosen a path of Business Immigration or Entrepreneur set up etc etc. You can do everything with having large funds…. And Canada is Money Hungary Country….! Bryanna in one post said 300k+ property is not a prime….. I think she forgot ..in 2009 or 2010 Canada was giving PR on 400,000 Dollar investment in Banks.. I think she also forgot the Property Slump in Canada that made people Bankrupt more than a decade ago.. The rise of property prices are just because of the new immigrants and that is the Artificial Bubble…. Even many Asylum holders brought huge sums of money with them. Even now in British Columbia or Manitoba and etc, entrepreneurs immigration requirement are very low. So she, you and visa officers must understand the difference between real visitors and fake visitors. If I intended, I could have chosen that path either…., But since visit visa officers vision and approach are limited, they take subjective decisions and mix donkeys with horses and that’s the biggest failure… to your economy.


Another point is that an embarrassing one… people are appointing lawyers and consultants for visitor visas and once they get rejected they file appeals and judicial reviews!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. It has become a business now….!! And everyone has share in it..


LOL , if someone is going to meet ill relative how comes Travel History matters…. It’s just a joke…………………To make them fool people do make travel histories……….so??? Are they ok with them…. Because they are just bookish and have clerical mindset…! They get fooled.


“Me Approach” or “Egoistic Approach” is a very dangerous thing. Canada adopts the changes after 10 years when world have changed it already!!! In all developed countries like USA, Australia and I think UK too, there are genuine ways and means by the Govt for visiting a Family Member, but Canada has just opened the “Super Visa thing or Sponsorship or Parents & Grandparents” after decades. For instance even in US which is the most anti immigrant country, you can sponsor your close blood relatives including parents, siblings and children, even independent children… but the time of waiting varies…. depending upon the relationship. Moreover in US there is form called I-134 which is a sort of guarantee and Affidavit of Support (with strict financial undertaken) for Visitor Visa, mainly used for family visit. In Australia there is Official Bond of Financial Security to Invite family members like brother, sisters, children etc. Similarly in U.K there was a concept of Financial Security Bond, but am not sure whether now it is there or not….. So this is how developing countries are going …. ! So you are restricting genuine people and paving the way yourself to non legitimate means and to allow people to tell lies to you…!! That is why "Canada is full of Jack of All Trades but Master of None"


I can understand your feeling of paying tax. I think you did not bother to read my earlier posts above. As I mentioned earlier, it’s the fault of your country that charge high income tax from you. It does not make difference whether a person is Asylum holder or not! Don’t worry you will get more benefit of paying taxes. …My wife’s sister is living there too for decades and she is Naturalized Citizen, doing job, paying taxes and the family own multiple houses. She does support them also. But parents don’t want to live with their daughter but with their son or maybe it’s a cultural thing. It’s their choice…And im sorry to the type of health care is provided on free fund…! Why you have a private insurance then? Why the rich go to private clinics. So for rich there is a difference and for poor they have a different approach…!

In terms of inheritance laws and for money … it varies from country to country and culture to culture..and religion to religion … I am responsible for myself, my wife and for my kids. Even Canadian govt wont count my funds as their funds.. In-laws are not my family. Yes I can morally and as a good gesture still can support them and I offered them to live here and ticket and etc. or probably they will come. But till the time my father in law is ill and alive and cant travel…. my mother in law will not come here!! Unlike youngsters and adults, old age parents are very much neglected there in terms of family values. And most importantly they could have visited earlier but govt don’t allow Asylum Seekers to go to their home country, before getting the citizens….and offcourse if someone has risk because of any reason, how come he travels there!!


And please don’t be over confident, I know a lot of Pakistani Canadian Citizens and even old aged people, who prefer to live here, because they are very much comfortable here because of their business prospects, good jobs, earnings, family ties, respect, weather conditions and having facility of cheap labors in the form of maids, servants, baby sitters, cooks and drivers etc. Why Canada is expensive.?. its nothing special in it. but just the concept of "Economies of Scale" here.... Yes many poor people from here who prefer to do labor jobs in Canada, blue collar jobs like taxi driver or worker on petrol pump etc etc, they are very happy there!! And is a good heaven for them. I see many engineers, doctors, business managers and skilled labors etc from different parts of world, which become donkeys there after going there on Federal Skilled Workers. And the result is loose – loose for the government and people.Your question must be then why the apply of immigration. The answer is simple... They want to have 2nd passport because you people don't give visas easily to many nationalities.

Anyhow, I won’t respond on this post now!! Because I can’t open the eyes or mind of someone if he/she still don’t want to open. And I have more important works other than spending time on blogging.

Cheers!!
I did not even read this post!!

Just to reiterate:
It is a privilege to be granted a visa, not a right.

And, if someone cannot appreciate the graciousness of IRCC in allowing someone to visit and then claim asylum in Canada.... or if someone has a condescending attitude towards another country which is now home to his/her relatives then they shouldn't want to visit that country, right?


Good luck again
 

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Is the Business/Entrepreneur pathway not available in 2011 that is why they applied for Federal Skilled Worker program? ;)
You raised a valid point. It was there, but unfortunately Canada is not a lucrative country for Business / Entrepreneurs with such a high ratio of taxes, expensive labor, low population and limited prospects of exports to neighboring countries, especially under the circumstances when there is a Mexico who is providing the services at lower costs, and china who was the biggest importer by North American Countries.

Secondly, Canada is oil producing country and if you look back at the lowered oil prices, recession and property slump faced by Canada about a decade ago, you will get my point!

Plus when its your hard earned money, its your decision. Even now those who have the intention they can make a business plan and deposit a guarantee money with the provincial governments ranging from CAD 75,000 to CAD100,000/- and can start a business from CAD 150,000/- It varies from province to province. So salute to innocent, bias, subjective, robotic and clerical visit visa officers, who should know, if someone has the intention / money, he can adopt the other ways of immigration too. This is the only way to judge a genuine visitor or fake visitor.
 

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I did not even read this post!!

Just to reiterate:
It is a privilege to be granted a visa, not a right.

And, if someone cannot appreciate the graciousness of IRCC in allowing someone to visit and then claim asylum in Canada.... or if someone has a condescending attitude towards another country which is now home to his/her relatives then they shouldn't want to visit that country, right?


Good luck again
Yeh I know, many of you could not understand my earlier post, because it requires PHD for understanding and Canada is lacking PHDs. Let me write a bit …point wise for those who could not understood earlier!!

My case is ----- My wife wanted to Visit her ill Father in Canada, who is now a Canadian Citizen, but took Asylum 5-6 years back. Consultants / lawyers and many people on this forum are saying that since my wife’s father in law just took Asylum and since my wife has weak travel history, the chances of refusal are very high! Though I have enough money to support her travel and Financial plus Family Ties in the home country

-------One of my friends applied for a Visa to US. His Family Ties were strong in USA and weak in the home country. Because of this, the Visa Officer thought that he will not come back to the home country. In a Visa Interview, he convinced the Visa Officer that “if I had the intention to live in USA, my mother would have applied for immigration under Family Sponsorship for me to USA, but she did not! This shows that I am the genuine visitor and don’t have the intention”. He got the visa. So there is no rocket science involved in it. It’s simple mind work. And Canadian Visa Officers should also go into logics rather than bookish things!!!-----

Bryanna….. You are taking it personal. Neither I have negative feeling and views about Canada nor about their people or govt. But I respect all the Nationalities, Races, Religions and Cultures. And everyone should. I have told you this earlier too! Criticism for the sake of improvement is not bad and should be welcomed rather than getting annoyed. Below are my arguments:

1,) My concern was only the Subjective and Bias Criteria of Assessment of so called clerical, robotic and bookish Visa Officers of Canada, which you may call their “right”, but it is and it was criticized by your own people, across different parts of world and including Canadian Immigration Lawyers.

2,) If one of my relatives took Asylum, it does not mean, my wife will also take the Asylum. Because ours situation is different. And one should match Apples with Apples, without prejudice.

3,) Even if one has taken Asylum, is he a criminal? that he/she is prohibited to meet with his relatives?

4,) Even if one has taken Asylum, shall government should act like “God” or “Master” of Slaves - who also give food, shelter and health to their Slaves, but prohibit meeting close family members. (Like old African Civilizations). Then Canadian Immigration Department must not advertise and show dreams to encourage immigrants and even refugees!

5,) And most importantly my father in law was routed through United Nations. Canadian Government should acknowledge and respect them, instead of treating them as 3rd Category Citizens. They did not violate anything.

6, ) Why they are neglecting the contribution of my those in-laws in Canada, who have not taken Asylum.

7,) Putting a bad label is easy. Why are they not considering the contribution of those of my relatives who are there from 80s (not Asylum Seeker), when Canada badly needed manpower, money and talent?

8,) Forget Families of Asylum Holders. What’s the guarantee that others going on visitor visa will not claim Asylum? They will and they can! Because your own laws are very favorable for Asylum Seekers and even non genuine Seekers also exploit them! So Canada should put their house in order rather than prohibiting the genuine visitors, based on biased assumptions.

9,) Travel history is another subjective and bias area for Family Visit. Canada is not a famous tourism place; neither it is a place to attend business meeting / conference. Last but not the least; it is also not the place for Medical Treatment. So 90% of the people who claim their reason of visiting other than Family Visit, they tell a lie. And for the family visit, travel history is a big question mark. If they copy the concept of Travel History from USA, UK or European States, those are the places of Business & Trade, Leisure and Tourism and Medical & Therapeutic Treatments

10,) Forget the Asylum Cases. They seldom give Visas to genuine family visitors. Canada portray/advertise them as Immigrant Friendly Country and they should learn what even non immigrant friendly countries are doing and how they are making the ways to meet the family members!

11,) For example Australia has an official system of “Financial Security Bond” to invite relatives. Any relative who want to invite his brother, sisters, parents and children can use that path. Same was doing by UK, but not now I guess.

12,) For instance USA uses the Affidavit of Undertaken by using form I-134. Which is a sort of heavy financial undertaken, by a family member

13,) For instance USA uses Family Based Sponsorship & Immigration Scheme, where your family members including brother, sisters, parents, children and independent children can permanently move to US, off course after meeting certain criteria and time.

Invention is the mother of necessity” and if Canadian Family Visit Visa Cases will be rejected often by so called Bias, Subjective, Bookish, Robotic and Clerical Visa Officers sitting at the Regional Visa Centers, the world will make the new ways to meet their relatives and Biased Visa Officers themselves are paving the ways to encourage illegitimate ways of entrance. Because if “there is a will, there is a way” and for “every virus there is an Anti Virus”.

Now anyone neutral tell me, what have I written wrong in the above statements! It’s just the bitter reality with solutions.

I don’t care whether they give visa to my wife to meet ill parent or not, but “expression of interest” and “freedom of speech” is “my right” not the “privilege”. And I can use it on any platform!

Cheers!
 

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You raised a valid point. It was there, but unfortunately Canada is not a lucrative country for Business / Entrepreneurs with such a high ratio of taxes, expensive labor, low population and limited prospects of exports to neighboring countries, especially under the circumstances when there is a Mexico who is providing the services at lower costs, and china who was the biggest importer by North American Countries.

Secondly, Canada is oil producing country and if you look back at the lowered oil prices, recession and property slump faced by Canada about a decade ago, you will get my point!

Plus when its your hard earned money, its your decision. Even now those who have the intention they can make a business plan and deposit a guarantee money with the provincial governments ranging from CAD 75,000 to CAD100,000/- and can start a business from CAD 150,000/- It varies from province to province. So salute to innocent, bias, subjective, robotic and clerical visit visa officers, who should know, if someone has the intention / money, he can adopt the other ways of immigration too. This is the only way to judge a genuine visitor or fake visitor.
I meant why did you apply for an FSW to Canada when you claimed to have "a lot" of other options?
 

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I still have many options lol! but CA is not a lucrative country to throw your wealth. "If you can get the milk without buying a cow, why to buy a cow LOL"

Read this post and you will know the reality why people from different parts of the world regret and leave Canada:

https://www.quora.com/Do-you-regret-moving-to-Canada

https://www.quora.com/Why-else-do-people-leave-Canada



I meant why did you apply for an FSW to Canada when you claimed to have "a lot" of other options?
 

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So far for over 200. 000 pakistani immigrants in Canada , not knowing heaven that they're missing from their country of origin.
Out of the Pakistan population of 220 Million….Plus Karachi alone has the actual population of 40 Million, which is more than the total population of Canada, even if 200,000 Pakistanis are living in Canada does not prove that it’s the heaven. Yes we like to export labor, blue collar people, truck and taxi drivers, plumbers, carpenters and all type of poor labor, for which the Canada is heaven.

People are lured by flattered advertisements of Canadian Immigration Consultants and Canadian Government and many skilled workers and even business entrepreneurs get fooled and attracted because of the so called charm of having 2nd passport. But they know the reality once they reach there! The government should not attract them through immigration plans if they can’t adjust & give the respect to professionals. Finally professionals are ending up in filling the petrol at gas stations. And all this has now become a business and everyone in the chain is feeding his tummy for handsome money.

I see many engineers, doctors, business managers, entrepreneurs and skilled labors etc from different parts of world, who became donkeys there after going there on Federal Skilled Workers. This is the only reason that Canada has “Jack of all Trades, but Master of None”

Read this post and you will know the reality why people from different parts of the world regret and leave Canada:

https://www.quora.com/Do-you-regret-moving-to-Canada

https://www.quora.com/Why-else-do-people-leave-Canada
 

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Pay for your father in laws health care instead of the taxpayers.
So called free fund.... Healthcare is just the marketing stunt….to lure immigrants. Check out their qualifications, skills and performance!

And im sorry to the type of health care is provided on free fund…! Why you have a private insurance then? Why the rich go to private clinics. So for rich there is a difference and for poor they have a different approach…!

Why in the emergency they attend youngsters first and old age later, because they don’t care if the old age people even die. Thus to release some burden.

Why in the emergency there is a waiting time for 6-8 hours and people are waiting and waiting like hell

Are you talking about this type of healthcare? When u will get old there, you will come to know your importance there!! And how much old aged people are neglected over there!!