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CASM

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Feb 28, 2019
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On receiving my Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR), I am planning my first landing there in Canada after couple of months (around May this year). Now, my question is that immediately after my first landing, or within few days thereafter, I am planning to file a complete visa application under Spousal Sponsorship program for my wife. However, I would be staying there in a temporary accommodation only (say airbnb or hotel room), as I need to accomplish some work including opening a Canadian bank account, then board my flight to a third country for some other work, and hence, I would not be having any local address or a place to call home, as such, at the time of filing my wife's visa application. Therefore, I need to know whether I can file the said application within days after landing there and without a local address? If yes, what documents other than marriage certificate and copy of wife's passport would be required for the purpose?
 

Bs65

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Maybe first clarify whether you are landing as single or if in fact you have already notified IRCC you are married before you land so you land as married .
 

CASM

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Maybe first clarify whether you are landing as single or if in fact you have already notified IRCC you are married before you land so you land as married .
I am married but this is yet to be notified to IRCC and I am travelling alone/ myself only
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,840
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Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
On receiving my Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR), I am planning my first landing there in Canada after couple of months (around May this year). Now, my question is that immediately after my first landing, or within few days thereafter, I am planning to file a complete visa application under Spousal Sponsorship program for my wife. However, I would be staying there in a temporary accommodation only (say airbnb or hotel room), as I need to accomplish some work including opening a Canadian bank account, then board my flight to a third country for some other work, and hence, I would not be having any local address or a place to call home, as such, at the time of filing my wife's visa application. Therefore, I need to know whether I can file the said application within days after landing there and without a local address? If yes, what documents other than marriage certificate and copy of wife's passport would be required for the purpose?
The short answer is no. As a PR, you must be physically living in Canada in order to sponsor your spouse. If you have a temporary address and are then leaving Canada, you won't meet this requirement and can expect a refusal. You'll need to wait until you have moved to Canada permanently and are living here before you will be able to submit the sponsorship application.
 
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scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,840
22,108
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
I am married but this is yet to be notified to IRCC and I am travelling alone/ myself only
This is a very big problem. If your spouse wasn't included in your PR application, you must return your PR visa and add your spouse to your application. If you fail to do this, you can never sponsor your spouse for PR. You cannot land using the visa that was issued to you as a single person. This is misrepresentation.
 

CASM

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Feb 28, 2019
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The short answer is no. As a PR, you must be physically living in Canada in order to sponsor your spouse. If you have a temporary address and are then leaving Canada, you won't meet this requirement and can expect a refusal. You'll need to wait until you have moved to Canada permanently and are living here before you will be able to submit the sponsorship application.
Thank you for your reply. But dear, I would be "physically living" in Canada when I file my spousal sponsorship visa application. As such, I didn't find anything on CIC/ IRCC website which mandates me to reside in Canada for a certain minimum time span in order to be eligible to apply for spousal sponsorship and just for your information, on the very first day of my first landing, I find myself to be eligible as a sponsor, as I meet the following requirements (which nowhere mentions that I have to be living there for a certain specified time period)

Requirements for the Sponsor:
  • The sponsor must be at least 18 years of age;
  • The sponsor must be a Canadian permanent resident living in Canada or a Canadian citizen;
  • The sponsor cannot be in prison, bankrupt, under a removal order (if a permanent resident) or charged with a serious offence; and
  • The sponsor cannot have been sponsored to Canada as a spouse within the last 5 years.
for more details, refer the below link

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5289-sponsor-your-spouse-common-law-partner-conjugal-partner-dependent-child-complete-guide.html#eligibility
 

CASM

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Feb 28, 2019
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This is a very big problem. If your spouse wasn't included in your PR application, you must return your PR visa and add your spouse to your application. If you fail to do this, you can never sponsor your spouse for PR. You cannot land using the visa that was issued to you as a single person. This is misrepresentation.
Thanks again for your prompt reply. But with utmost respect, modesty and humility, I would like to submit that I got married only days before getting my final COPR (Confirmation of Permanent Residency), and was very much single (bachelor/ not married) at the time of filing my PR application, which is why my spouse was not added (as I myself didn't know that back then). Please re-consider in light of the above facts as I don't see any misrepresentation.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,840
22,108
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Thanks again for your prompt reply. But with utmost respect, modesty and humility, I would like to submit that I got married only days before getting my final COPR (Confirmation of Permanent Residency), and was very much single (bachelor/ not married) at the time of filing my PR application, which is why my spouse was not added (as I myself didn't know that back then). Please re-consider in light of the above facts as I don't see any misrepresentation.
Doesn't matter. It's still misrepresentation and the answer remains the same. There is nothing to reconsider. If you look at the letter than accompanied your COPR then you will see it specifically mentioned that you must notify IRCC of any changes to family composition before landing. Once again, you MUST notify the visa office that you are now married and return your COPR. Your COPR can no longer be used since it was issued to you when you were single and you are now married. You MUST then submit all of the required paperwork (including medical and PCC) to add your new spouse to your application. IRCC will then issue a new COPR once they have processed your spouse's paperwork. If you land using the COPR you have now you will never be able to sponsor your spouse for PR and will be committing misrepresentation which could result in your PR status being revoked. There are many discussions in the Express Entry section of the forum that discuss this issue and the process you must follow if you get married before landing in Canada. One last time, do not land using the COPR you have now.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,840
22,108
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Thank you for your reply. But dear, I would be "physically living" in Canada when I file my spousal sponsorship visa application. As such, I didn't find anything on CIC/ IRCC website which mandates me to reside in Canada for a certain minimum time span in order to be eligible to apply for spousal sponsorship and just for your information, on the very first day of my first landing, I find myself to be eligible as a sponsor, as I meet the following requirements (which nowhere mentions that I have to be living there for a certain specified time period)

Requirements for the Sponsor:
  • The sponsor must be at least 18 years of age;
  • The sponsor must be a Canadian permanent resident living in Canada or a Canadian citizen;
  • The sponsor cannot be in prison, bankrupt, under a removal order (if a permanent resident) or charged with a serious offence; and
  • The sponsor cannot have been sponsored to Canada as a spouse within the last 5 years.
for more details, refer the below link

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5289-sponsor-your-spouse-common-law-partner-conjugal-partner-dependent-child-complete-guide.html#eligibility
All of us here are very familiar with this information. The answer remains the same. As a PR, you must be living in Canada to qualify to sponsor your spouse. If you submit the application and then leave, it will be refused. You must continue to live in Canada after the application is submitted.

Anyway - you have a bigger issue to address first. Your COPR is no longer valid. As said above, you need to return it and notify IRCC that you are now married - and submit the paperwork to add your spouse to your application. Expect to wait around 3-5 months of additional processing time to receive your new COPR.
 

canuck_in_uk

VIP Member
May 4, 2012
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06/12
Thanks again for your prompt reply. But with utmost respect, modesty and humility, I would like to submit that I got married only days before getting my final COPR (Confirmation of Permanent Residency), and was very much single (bachelor/ not married) at the time of filing my PR application, which is why my spouse was not added (as I myself didn't know that back then). Please re-consider in light of the above facts as I don't see any misrepresentation.
As scylla said, doesn't matter. You MUST add your spouse to your current application. Failure to do so is misrepresentation and will result in the exclusion of your spouse from the Family Class, meaning that you will never be able to sponsor her. It could also result in the revocation of your PR status.
 

CASM

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Feb 28, 2019
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All of us here are very familiar with this information. The answer remains the same. As a PR, you must be living in Canada to qualify to sponsor your spouse. If you submit the application and then leave, it will be refused. You must continue to live in Canada after the application is submitted.

Anyway - you have a bigger issue to address first. Your COPR is no longer valid. As said above, you need to return it and notify IRCC that you are now married - and submit the paperwork to add your spouse to your application. Expect to wait around 3-5 months of additional processing time to receive your new COPR.
Noted and thanks! If I do submit the paperwork as mentioned above adding my spouse, including my own medical exam result and PCC etc. all afresh, shall that suffice? Because just as you said, I shall not land using the COPR I have now, but then I hope to get a revised deadline (last date) for my first landing altogether (according to new/ revised COPR)
 

canuck_in_uk

VIP Member
May 4, 2012
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London
App. Filed.......
06/12
Noted and thanks! If I do submit the paperwork as mentioned above adding my spouse, including my own medical exam result and PCC etc. all afresh, shall that suffice? Because just as you said, I shall not land using the COPR I have now, but then I hope to get a revised deadline (last date) for my first landing altogether (according to new/ revised COPR)
There is no "if". You must do this.

You do not need to redo your medical and PCCs. If another medical is required, IRCC will request it.
 
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zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
Noted and thanks! If I do submit the paperwork as mentioned above adding my spouse, including my own medical exam result and PCC etc. all afresh, shall that suffice? Because just as you said, I shall not land using the COPR I have now, but then I hope to get a revised deadline (last date) for my first landing altogether (according to new/ revised COPR)
It's a VERY good thing that you came to the forum for information, or you would have been one of the many people impacted by IRPR 117(9)(d).
The success rate of appealing that part of the legislation is extremely low.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/section-117.html
 
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momo2018

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You should be grateful for the advice you got here CASM.
You almost made the biggest mistake of your life and lost the option to bring your wife here. EVER.
 

CASM

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Feb 28, 2019
37
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There is no "if". You must do this.

You do not need to redo your medical and PCCs. If another medical is required, IRCC will request it.
OK, I "WILL" do that. And if you could only suggest a final deadline/ last date by which I should file for revision/ new COPR, I'd be more than grateful and glad to hear from you.