difference between security and criminality check... who conducts what?

[canuck_in_uk]

last month when I called CIC they told me my eligibility is still underview and BG is in progress.

This past Friday I called them agian and they said I passed eligiblity and BG/criminality is still in process.

Now what stage of BG could I be in ?Is it safe to assume that they approved my work experience and that that it has already been verified?
or should i still worry that VO might not think NOC code matches with my job description?

thanks

This is the Family Class section of the forum. Post in the EE section.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

cool. but what about employment verfication, matching NOC code with job letter, fraud check/misrepresentation, educational documents background check, at what stage this happen? in background check or before BG when they review your eligibility?

Again, you need to post in the EE section of the forum. This section is for family class apps, which have no checks on employment/NOC/education/etc.

 

[shalenabennie]

application received Jan 10, 2017.

It was refused Jan 19, 2018 and re-opened Sept 4, 2018.

The standard processing time of 12 months does not apply in this non-routine file.



Sponsor and applicant eligibility has been met.

Security checks were initiated Oct 23, 2018 and are in progress. They cannot be expedited and timelines are not available.

Criminality has not started.

Medicals are valid until Oct 12, 2019.

So I'm guessing we have A LONG WAY TO GO

 

[Aziz123]

Hi, does any one know how much take times for security check ?
I passed criminality
passed medical but
security is in processing how much should i wait for that ?? im waiting around 5 month in security.

 

[Lanak]

Hello sorry to bother you. If BGC has not even started should I be contacting them? Or should I wait? This is for sponsorship of my spouse

here's a good piece of info from @Eagle333 about BGCs:

"Background checks are done through many companies such as and not limited to these 6.

1. CSIS: Security screening, Espionage and Foreign interference, Terrorism, Weapon of mass destruction,
Human trafficking, CSIS works with many agencies around the globe and they like the FBI or CIA. I happened to contact them in 2013 when I was sponsoring my spouse because the background checks were taking too long and they responded me. So you can actually write to them and request to know about your background checks

2. INTERPOL:

•Help officials – senior law enforcers, policy makers and decision makers – deal more effectively with uncertainty and new challenges;
•Provide timely warning of threats;
•Support operational activities and complex investigations.

Types of analysis

Criminal intelligence analysis is divided into operational (or tactical) and strategic analysis.

The basic skills required are similar, the two categories differ with regard to the level of detail and the type of client for whom the products
are designed. Operational analysis aims to achieve a specific law enforcement outcome. This might be an arrest, seizure, forfeiture of assets or money gained from criminal activities, or the disruption of a criminal group.

Operational analytical support includes:
•Identifying links between suspects, and their involvement in crimes and criminal activity;
•Identifying key investigative or information gaps;
•Preparing profiles of known or suspected criminals.

Strategic analysis is intended to inform higher level decision makers, and the benefits are realized over the long term.

The intention is to provide early warning of threats and to support senior decision makers in preparing their organizations to deal with emerging criminal issues. This might include allocating resources to different types of crime, or increasing training in a particular crime-fighting technique.

Strategic analysis includes the identification of:
•Crime trends and patterns;
•Emerging threats;
•The potential impact of external factors such as technology, demographics or economics on crime.

In every country there is an Interpol office.

3. RCMP: You may need a criminal record check for various purposes, including: employment, adoption, international travel, volunteer work, citizenship, name change, student placement or to obtain a record suspension

4. If you were an ex Policeman, ex military , ex diplomat, ex government member, ex secret serviceman, your checks will be very deep than a simple citizen

5. Number of trips you did to some red flagged regions of the world, if there is any immigration laws you have been broken in the past, any warrant against you in the countries you visited more that 6 months.

6. Your full name and date of birth sound familiar like someone they have been looking for around the world

During this period you can now understand why CIC has no control over your file anymore and they usually don't like to reply to some emails of why the process is taking too long. They will only tell you we are waiting for background checks to finish. It can take from one months to some extend 12 months because there is no way to control this period.

7. Anytime your file does not make sense about dates, locations, occupation, Fake school certificate or marriage these things will make the VO to extend the processing time in order to work with the issuing government of any documentation your provided. These are good ingredient of an interview.

So CSIS is the leading government third party that works with other agencies around the world. There was one guy in Italy who had a criminal conviction but he hid it in the end CIC found out through CSIS and this person was charged with misrepresentation. based on the notes they might have left on his profile. A lady in Ghana produced Fake school certificate and CIC found it and they did not trust any documents she sent, her file was rejected and banned from applying to come to Canada. There are so many stories we can tell. When our files are in background checks a lot do happen. If you research a lot you will learn a lot too. ""

llo

 

[Lanak]

Hi, does any one know how much take times for security check ?
I passed criminality
passed medical but
security is in processing how much should i wait for that ?? im waiting around 5 month in security.

Good question. My husbands BGC has not even started. No idea how long all this takes

 

[starnaenae]

Hello sorry to bother you. If BGC has not even started should I be contacting them? Or should I wait? This is for sponsorship of my spouse

llo

Wait. There may be reasons. If youre concerned order your notes

 

[Lanak]

Wait. There may be reasons. If youre concerned order your notes

Yes for now will wait. It states we are revieweing eligibility requirements

 

[shalenabennie]

Good question. My husbands BGC has not even started. No idea how long all this takes

Currently security screening is averaging around 8 months with v some cases finishing a bit sooner abd others can go up to 1 year

 

[shalenabennie]

Hi, does any one know how much take times for security check ?
I passed criminality
passed medical but
security is in processing how much should i wait for that ?? im waiting around 5 month in security.

Currently security screening is averaging around 8 months with v some cases finishing a bit sooner abd others can go up to 1 year

 

[Aziz123]

Currently security screening is averaging around 8 months with v some cases finishing a bit sooner abd others can go up to 1 year

Hi, could u tell me that what they checks by outside agencies ? Recived this email from NDVO in 13 Novomber 2018.

In this context, certain background investigations are being conducted in connection with your application. As these investigations are conducted by outside agencies, we have no purview over the processing time. We are therefore unable to give an exact time frame in which we expect to conclude the verifications on this case.

What they checks by outside agencies its means that im under security sceerning or no ? they checks another things ?

 

[Aziz123]

Good question. My husbands BGC has not even started. No idea how long all this takes

If i think BGC will finished soon criminality,eligibility,medical, but security takes more time for every applicants.
Becouse security will check by CSIS which takes more times even 1 months 3 months or more than 1 year.
now we in around more than 5 months in security sceerning still not finished.

 

[shalenabennie]

Hi, could u tell me that what they checks by outside agencies ? Recived this email from NDVO in 13 Novomber 2018.

In this context, certain background investigations are being conducted in connection with your application. As these investigations are conducted by outside agencies, we have no purview over the processing time. We are therefore unable to give an exact time frame in which we expect to conclude the verifications on this case.

What they checks by outside agencies its means that im under security sceerning or no ? they checks another things ?

Yes. Your in security screening. The averaging time is 8 months.

 

[shalenabennie]

Good question. My husbands BGC has not even started. No idea how long all this takes

6 months to 12 months. Average is 8.

 

[Aziz123]

Yes. Your in security screening. The averaging time is 8 months.

So security screening will done by CSIS ( Canadian Security Intelligence Service ) ? am i right