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Spousal TRV

vm87

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I am a Canadian PR currently residing in the US. I recently got married, however we are yet to process my wife's PR application. Can I apply for a tourist visa for her right now? What are the chances of it getting approved considering we show definite intent to return back to the US?
 

Bryanna

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I am a Canadian PR currently residing in the US. I recently got married, however we are yet to process my wife's PR application. Can I apply for a tourist visa for her right now? What are the chances of it getting approved considering we show definite intent to return back to the US?
Your wife can apply for a TRV/tourist visa. Chances of approval would depend on how well she proves that she (and you) must return to the US.

You can get some suggestions here:
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/which-countries-to-visit-to-improve-travel-history-significantly.482769/#post-6246631
 

abby89

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I have been terrible in responding to personal messages since the last several weeks. Maybe you should post your questions here if it isn't too personal
Hello Bryanna

Hope you are doing fine and you see this message.

My husband is a PR in Canada and he is working there since last September 2018.

We had planned to submit an outland spousal sponsorship for me and my child. However, I am finding it VERY difficult to live alone with a toddler. Without any parents and any family. My parents have passed away.

So we have decided to apply for a TRV and once I am in Canada to apply for an Inland spousal sponsorship.

Considering that I have stopped working since more than a year, and that I am financially dependent on my husband currently, can you please advise what proofs to provide in my case to get my application stronger.

I do have a house on my name but on my brother's name as well. I have a pension plan, education plan for my kid, and a life insurance plan as well. I do not currently have any bank balance though..

I have lands on my grand father's name, though it has not yet been transferred to my and my brother's name.

I stay in a rented house. My kid and I have health insurances here.

Do you advise on applying for the TRV for less than 6 months? If I apply for say 2months, can it be extended once I am there? Will I get minimum 6 months visa even if I apply for 2months?

Am I being unrealistic for applying a visitor visa?

Please advise. I am really in dilemma.
 

bellaluna

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I recall a recent case on this forum where they outright stated the purpose of applying for a TRV was to apply for inland spousal sponsorship, and it was approved. I’d dig it up if I wasn’t on my mobile.
 

abby89

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I recall a recent case on this forum where they outright stated the purpose of applying for a TRV was to apply for inland spousal sponsorship, and it was approved. I’d dig it up if I wasn’t on my mobile.
Thank you, Bellaluna. Can you please provide me with the link?
 

Bryanna

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Sep 8, 2014
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Hello Bryanna

Hope you are doing fine and you see this message.

My husband is a PR in Canada and he is working there since last September 2018.

We had planned to submit an outland spousal sponsorship for me and my child. However, I am finding it VERY difficult to live alone with a toddler. Without any parents and any family. My parents have passed away.

So we have decided to apply for a TRV and once I am in Canada to apply for an Inland spousal sponsorship.

Considering that I have stopped working since more than a year, and that I am financially dependent on my husband currently, can you please advise what proofs to provide in my case to get my application stronger.

I do have a house on my name but on my brother's name as well. I have a pension plan, education plan for my kid, and a life insurance plan as well. I do not currently have any bank balance though..

I have lands on my grand father's name, though it has not yet been transferred to my and my brother's name.

I stay in a rented house. My kid and I have health insurances here.

Do you advise on applying for the TRV for less than 6 months? If I apply for say 2months, can it be extended once I am there? Will I get minimum 6 months visa even if I apply for 2months?

Am I being unrealistic for applying a visitor visa?

Please advise. I am really in dilemma.
Give the TRV your best shot. But I would suggest taking a calculated risk. What this means: Apply for TRVs after your husband applies for spousal sponsorship by the outland route.... and the file is transferred to your local visa office.

I would not put all my hopes on the TRV >> Inland sponsorship route.... especially not in your situation where you don't have too many strong ties to your home country.


This will likely work/not work for your TRV:
1. Apply for the outland sponsorship. Wait for sponsor approval, file transfer.

2. As you're immigrating, the education plan, insurance plan, health insurance and similar long-term investment plans for your kid will fly out of the visa window because none of it will help when you're living in Canada. Nonetheless, you can include these investments.

3. Land on your grandfather's name - a non-starter. Unless you and your brother are direct inheritors + there's a Will, it's a long-drawn legal process to have the land transferred to you. That said, is it agricultural land? Do you earn an income from this?

4. Rented house: Do you have a lease? I assume your husband pays the rent (not directly, but the money he remits to you pays this rent).

5. Do you legally co-own the house with your brother? Is it rented? If yes, do you earn rent or share the rent with your brother?

6. Have you traveled to any other visa-required countries (US, UK, Schengen, Australia, NZ, etc)?

7. Do you and/or your husband have any financial investments in your home country? Bank term deposits, shares/stocks, mutual funds? Or any other investments that can be liquidated easily?

8. If you apply for a TRV, the visit must be for 2-3 weeks (not for two months). I recommend including some must-return events in your home country (for example, a wedding in the immediate family) + do include a detailed day-by-day visit itinerary with expense estimates + state you will not overstay this short 2-3 weeks visit as you don't want to jeopardize your PR processing
 
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Bryanna

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I somehow found it. Pretty dramatic thread. Seems like it was a case to case basis. This is possibly the only, if not one of the two successful declarations I've come across here.

https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/sick-and-tired.556365/page-3#post-7422079
Yup, quite a bit of drama and tears there! You must read that OP's previous posts if you haven't already. Quite a read!

@canuck_in_uk, @Wonderland_1010 and I had advised the OP after the previous TRV refusals. But, he resolutely believed that Canada had let him down.... and he had no option but to move to China lock, stock and barrel :)
 
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Yup, quite a bit of drama and tears there! You must read that OP's previous posts if you haven't already. Quite a read!

@canuck_in_uk, @Wonderland_1010 and I had advised the OP after the previous TRV refusals. But, he resolutely believed that Canada had let him down.... and he had no option but to move to China lock, stock and barrel :)
Yes, that was a dramatic one lol.
 

abby89

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I somehow found it. Pretty dramatic thread. Seems like it was a case to case basis. This is possibly the only, if not one of the two successful declarations I've come across here.

https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/sick-and-tired.556365/page-3#post-7422079
Give the TRV your best shot. But I would suggest taking a calculated risk. What this means: Apply for TRVs after your husband applies for spousal sponsorship by the outland route.... and the file is transferred to your local visa office.

I would not put all my hopes on the TRV >> Inland sponsorship route.... especially not in your situation where you don't have too many strong ties to your home country.


This will likely work/not work for your TRV:
1. Apply for the outland sponsorship. Wait for sponsor approval, file transfer. OK

2. As you're immigrating, the education plan, insurance plan, health insurance and similar long-term investment plans for your kid will fly out of the visa window because none of it will help when you're living in Canada. Nonetheless, you can include these investments. OK

3. Land on your grandfather's name - a non-starter. Unless you and your brother are direct inheritors + there's a Will, it's a long-drawn legal process to have the land transferred to you. That said, is it agricultural land? Do you earn an income from this? No there is no will and me and my brother are not the only inheritors. Plus we do not earn income from those land.

4. Rented house: Do you have a lease? I assume your husband pays the rent (not directly, but the money he remits to you pays this rent). Yes, the rent is paid out of the money that my husband gives me.

5. Do you legally co-own the house with your brother? Is it rented? If yes, do you earn rent or share the rent with your brother? Yes we co-own the house and my brother currently lives in it. So no source of rental income.

6. Have you traveled to any other visa-required countries (US, UK, Schengen, Australia, NZ, etc)? No, I have only traveled to India so far during the last ten years.. But I have never over-stayed.

7. Do you and/or your husband have any financial investments in your home country? Bank term deposits, shares/stocks, mutual funds? Or any other investments that can be liquidated easily? No, we currently do not have any other investments that can be liquidated easily.

8. If you apply for a TRV, the visit must be for 2-3 weeks (not for two months). I recommend including some must-return events in your home country (for example, a wedding in the immediate family) + do include a detailed day-by-day visit itinerary with expense estimates + state you will not overstay this short 2-3 weeks visit as you don't want to jeopardize your PR processing
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Thank you Bryanna for your detailed reply! Please see my response in RED above in the quoted text. I guess I stand a very low chance for TRV approval. Can I just be honest and mention that my intent is to come to Canada for Inland sponsorship? How will the officers see this?
 

Bryanna

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Thank you Bryanna for your detailed reply! Please see my response in RED above in the quoted text. I guess I stand a very low chance for TRV approval.
I will agree with you on this. Unfortunately, there's nothing in your favor for a TRV. You can certainly apply if you wish, but don't keep your hopes high for an approval.


Can I just be honest and mention that my intent is to come to Canada for Inland sponsorship? How will the officers see this?
It would be obvious without you stating it. However, I recommend not mentioning it. A TRV is for short visits and your statement would prove the contrary
 

abby89

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Ok thank you, Bryanna. But how do people manage to get in Canada and then apply for Inland Spousal sponsorship? Not everyone would be going on a study permit, right?
 

Bryanna

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Ok thank you, Bryanna. But how do people manage to get in Canada and then apply for Inland Spousal sponsorship? Not everyone would be going on a study permit, right?
For any temporary resident visa (visitor, student, work permit), applicants prove they have strong reasons to return to their home country at the end of their visit.

Having a Canadian spouse only makes it even more difficult to get an approval for a temporary resident visa. IRCC is fully aware that the applicant is not a genuine visitor + s/he will apply for PR by the inland route. To be approved, these applicants must submit super solid applications.

Or some people apply for TRVs before they get married. If approved, they then file for PR later by the inland route.

IMO, in your case, you don't have any strong ties + zero finances + you would be viewed as someone who wants to bypass the wait times for outland PR sponsorship = Not a genuine TRV visitor.

Not sure why your husband did not apply for your PR when you just got married.... or shortly after your baby was born. Those were the best solutions