August 2018 AOR - join here
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This crossed my mind when I saw no PPRs for residents of India after Nov 23. FSW-O.
Hi dear, thank you for sharing in your thoughts and assumptions. I am sure you meant the above for the good of many who r active and inactive in this forum but somehow unfortunately it got misinterpreted.
A friendly advise, whenever forecasts, speculations or assumptions are made on any kinda public forum, it needs to be backed up well with references, bibliography, data, investigative methods and the basis on which the conclusion was formulated.
So if u could disclose the above it'd be great or kindly ignore this request, no issues.
Note to all-:
Guys, guys, guys!! Let us all calm down, there is no need to get personal or try throwing in sucker punches. We all are here in this forum out of curiosity and anxiety towards the uncertainty of our files. Lets not take anything personal. Constructive criticism is good and well appreciated while destructive criticism is morally wrong, demeaning and immature. If our fate allows us to get a ppr today, then great!! Congrats for it, if not hang in there and go with the flow of destiny. Let us be respectful, polite and patient in our queries and responses!!
Cheers and all the best!!
I pray, ur words would be taken back when we have a AOR Aug 2018 bash in Canada in few months time !!
I must compliment and say that u got good ense of humour!!
hellgirl11
Star Member
Thank you for your positive vibes and i really hope that what you are saying is true BUT some people from my community received this email 3 weeks ago and still waiting until now for PPR email
hellgirl11
Star Member
IP1, IP2, ghost updates are all speculations and i can ensure you that
i received 2 ghost updates and no PPR email until now
im in IP2 since sep and no PPR email
so all what we are sharing are all speculations
what i have shared are my analysis and investigation same as IP1 and IP2 , so please calm down
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I’ve honestly learned over the years that until you hear something from the horse’s mouth, it’s all speculation and opinion.
Until there is a statement released by CIC to say ‘we’ve hit a limit etc.’, I would take everybody’s speculations/opinions on PPR and processing times with a huge grain of salt.
There seems to be very little rhyme of reason to the way in which applications are dealt with. My speculation/opinion on this is that every officer is different and this is (along with nuances in applications) what causes the variations in people’s timelines. Officers have different experience, and will look at applications in different ways. Some officers may require the assistance of others to ensure that the work they compete on our applications is sufficient. Waiting for this assistance/approval for others unfortunately causes a delay for us applicants.
Once again all speculation, however I’d rather wait for a prolonged period of time while the officers do their jobs to the best of their abilities. Remember there is a lot of background/security checking going on to ensure that the people seeking PR are good people. I love Canada and I love the people here. I’d hate to see CIC dropping the quality of work they do and causing dilution in good people here; just because we can’t wait a few extra months.
That’s my two cents.
Until there is a statement released by CIC to say ‘we’ve hit a limit etc.’, I would take everybody’s speculations/opinions on PPR and processing times with a huge grain of salt.
There seems to be very little rhyme of reason to the way in which applications are dealt with. My speculation/opinion on this is that every officer is different and this is (along with nuances in applications) what causes the variations in people’s timelines. Officers have different experience, and will look at applications in different ways. Some officers may require the assistance of others to ensure that the work they compete on our applications is sufficient. Waiting for this assistance/approval for others unfortunately causes a delay for us applicants.
Once again all speculation, however I’d rather wait for a prolonged period of time while the officers do their jobs to the best of their abilities. Remember there is a lot of background/security checking going on to ensure that the people seeking PR are good people. I love Canada and I love the people here. I’d hate to see CIC dropping the quality of work they do and causing dilution in good people here; just because we can’t wait a few extra months.
That’s my two cents.
Hey!
I would like to share some numbers and will be backing it with data.
DISCLAIMER: this is my observation based on the data posted on Canada.ca and Canadavisa.com. All I am trying to do is put some rest to speculations with numbers.
The numbers are rounded.
2015 -
ITA - 31,000
Visa issued 16,600
2016
ITA - 34,000
Visa issued 37,000
2017
ITA - 86,000
Application :
Received 110,000
Approved 96,000
Visa issued 93,500
2018
ITA - 82,000 till 28 Nov.
Let’s add 25,000 applicants more based on past 2017 trend (application received > ITAs for the year)
By the way 16,500 ITAs were issued in last 3 months of 2017 So buffer added here too as 90 days are given to submit applicans.
We have around 107,000 submitted applicants (this number is on the higher side as it didn’t exclude those who won’t submit and counts ALL those who received ITA 3900 in last draw)
Conclusion:
1. We are yet to reach last years application received as of today.
2. Let’s say if the number of ITAs issued is going to increase by 4000 with every draw and if we add ITAs from next 2 draws which can happen this month (3900*2)= 8000 approximately(buffer added).
Total ITAs by Dec should be 90,000.
90,000(2018) - 86,000(2017) = 4000.
3. They have issued 93,500 last year and we are yet to see 2 more draws I don’t think they exceeded their quota so far. Also,if you will check table 7 of Express entry year end report 2017 they had issued more visas in Q3 and Q4.
4. From 2016 to 2017 they were able to transition from 37,000 visa to 93,500 visas, I think they approved number won’t be that huge for 2018 compared to 2016-2017.
Didn’t they plan to do this for next 2 more years.
So, in short we are fine.
Links:
See table 7
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/express-entry-year-end-report-2017.html
End of the page past 4 years ITA
https://www.canadavisa.com/express-entry-invitations-to-apply-issued.html#gs.UG9Ujms
If I made some mistake please let me know
I would like to share some numbers and will be backing it with data.
DISCLAIMER: this is my observation based on the data posted on Canada.ca and Canadavisa.com. All I am trying to do is put some rest to speculations with numbers.
The numbers are rounded.
2015 -
ITA - 31,000
Visa issued 16,600
2016
ITA - 34,000
Visa issued 37,000
2017
ITA - 86,000
Application :
Received 110,000
Approved 96,000
Visa issued 93,500
2018
ITA - 82,000 till 28 Nov.
Let’s add 25,000 applicants more based on past 2017 trend (application received > ITAs for the year)
By the way 16,500 ITAs were issued in last 3 months of 2017 So buffer added here too as 90 days are given to submit applicans.
We have around 107,000 submitted applicants (this number is on the higher side as it didn’t exclude those who won’t submit and counts ALL those who received ITA 3900 in last draw)
Conclusion:
1. We are yet to reach last years application received as of today.
2. Let’s say if the number of ITAs issued is going to increase by 4000 with every draw and if we add ITAs from next 2 draws which can happen this month (3900*2)= 8000 approximately(buffer added).
Total ITAs by Dec should be 90,000.
90,000(2018) - 86,000(2017) = 4000.
3. They have issued 93,500 last year and we are yet to see 2 more draws I don’t think they exceeded their quota so far. Also,if you will check table 7 of Express entry year end report 2017 they had issued more visas in Q3 and Q4.
4. From 2016 to 2017 they were able to transition from 37,000 visa to 93,500 visas, I think they approved number won’t be that huge for 2018 compared to 2016-2017.
Didn’t they plan to do this for next 2 more years.
So, in short we are fine.
Links:
See table 7
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/express-entry-year-end-report-2017.html
End of the page past 4 years ITA
https://www.canadavisa.com/express-entry-invitations-to-apply-issued.html#gs.UG9Ujms
If I made some mistake please let me know
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That's why I always wonder how people check their accounts multiple times a day, my patience allows me to do it only twice a week, and every time it's a very big challenge
I have the same issue and keep wondering why this happens and if other people have the same issue.
After a hard day's work it is so irritating that the website act like this. I feel like
And i ask myself how do people check their account multiple times a day!
With all the software and computer engineers they are attracting the website has a lot of room for improvement.
Now that is what I call research. Backed with data and has an explanation on the methodology used. Thank you for this!Hey!
I would like to share some numbers and will be backing it with data.
DISCLAIMER: this is my observation based on the data posted on Canada.ca and Canadavisa.com. All I am trying to do is put some rest to speculations with numbers.
The numbers are rounded.
2015 -
ITA - 31,000
Visa issued 16,600
2016
ITA - 34,000
Visa issued 37,000
2017
ITA - 86,000
Application :
Received 110,000
Approved 96,000
Visa issued 93,500
2018
ITA - 82,000 till 28 Nov.
Let’s add 25,000 applicants more based on past 2017 trend (application received > ITAs for the year)
By the way 16,500 ITAs were issued in last 3 months of 2017 So buffer added here too as 90 days are given to submit applicans.
We have around 107,000 submitted applicants (this number is on the higher side as it didn’t exclude those who won’t submit and counts ALL those who received ITA 3900 in last draw)
Conclusion:
1. We are yet to reach last years application received as of today.
2. Let’s say if the number of ITAs issued is going to increase by 4000 with every draw and if we add ITAs from next 2 draws which can happen this month (3900*2)= 8000 approximately(buffer added).
Total ITAs by Dec should be 90,000.
90,000(2018) - 86,000(2017) = 4000.
3. They have issued 93,500 last year and we are yet to see 2 more draws I don’t think they exceeded their quota so far. Also,if you will check table 7 of Express entry year end report 2017 they had issued more visas in Q3 and Q4.
4. From 2016 to 2017 they were able to transition from 37,000 visa to 93,500 visas, I think they approved number won’t be that huge for 2018 compared to 2016-2017.
Didn’t they plan to do this for next 2 more years.
So, in short we are fine.
Links:
See table 7
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/express-entry-year-end-report-2017.html
End of the page past 4 years ITA
https://www.canadavisa.com/express-entry-invitations-to-apply-issued.html#gs.UG9Ujms
If I made some mistake please let me know
Just as a side note to anyone else, seeing how we have rude people (read one person) on this forum. If Sunshine would have just at given her results without any explanation whatsoever, then it would have been speculations.
Now this analysis is based on the available data we have, which is very little, it still has a relative truth to it.
So again I thank you for this research! Hope you move to Toronto coz if we had a Sunshine in Toronto then we could forget about harsh cold winters