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Eligibility: Recommend Interview

dvm.bilaeen88l

Star Member
Jun 29, 2018
120
49
35
Pakistan
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3114
App. Filed.......
18-01-2018
Doc's Request.
05-02-2018, 10-07-2018
AOR Received.
18-01-2018
Passport Req..
03-10-2018
I hope to find all of you very well.

I have received my GCMS notes today 15th Sep (6.20 am EST), exactly after 30 days. Total 85 pages.

Page 1 shows the entire detail of my application. Page 2 shows the most important ‘Assessments’ portion and it reads out as:

Eligibility: Recommend Interview

Security: Not Started (I am much relieved that I am not under SS, but only under eligibility check)

Criminality: Passed

Medical: Passed

Info Sharing: Complete (From notes I have found that this was done with USA and no adverse info found, I think that is what they do under security checks – If I am not mistaken)

My Primary Office is London and Secondary Office is Islamabad.

Page 3 states codes and names of all 5 secondary offices assigned to my file.

Page 4 and 5 mentions provinces data

Page 6 again shows my details with same status of security, criminality, medicals and info sharing. No mention of eligibility here.

Page 9-23 show Eligibility Assessments 1 and 2, and they have status of Passed- Candidates written against them. These pages deal with detailed analysis of my application with respect to education, language, work history and all other factors etc. All attributes are discussed here in detail. Nothing unfavorable found in these pages.

Page 26-29 show admissibility, criminality, medical and info sharing details and all have status of Passed in front of them.

Page 30-36 show the outgoing communications made by IRCC with myself.

Page 36-44 show the incoming communications which I have made with IRCC (At time of submission of application)

Page 45-50 Verification, Events, Fees, Associations, and History etc.

Page 50- 57 shows Applications Section and it has total of 29 application new and old values with the most recent mentioning Recommend Interview. Application 1 shows this and it is from London.

Page 58-68 shows total of 39 Activities. The Activity 1 again shows that Recommend Interview but it is from Centralized Intake Office, not from my Primary Office- London. These activities show that I have cleared many steps of Eligibility or may be it has been analyzed many times.

Page 68 shows that my file was transferred to London VO on 8th March 2018 due to workload distribution.

Page 69-79 shows the electronic documents submitted in GCMS system.

Page 80-85 have the Notes section, which I suppose is the main part. Total of 19 notes. I will put them in reverse order just to clarify.

Notes 11- Asks for Schedule A form which was demanded by IRCC on 5th Feb. I submitted that on 7th feb.

Notes 9-10 were made on 7th Feb in which they verified all CRS scores claimed by myself. Education, work history, language etc.

Notes 8 put Criminality Passed (R10). Formed on same date 7th Feb

Notes 7 were made by CIO and checked A11.2 and the case processing officer has put file on Review Required under Primary Occupation. Then again he has put Review Required on R76 (FSW Points) mainly because he was not convinced with my work history. He gave verified 59 points where I have claimed 70. After this he has mentioned my CRS to be 472 and cut off for that round 452, and he has verified 422 points and has put me under review required for other 50 points mainly subject to occupational clearance.

After these notes were made on 23rd Feb my file was transferred to London VO on 8th March and it saw zero movement till 10th July. I don’t know what to comment here. This is really frustrating to know and my guess was 100 percent right that they have not touched my file for around 4 months during that period.

On July 10th, they made notes 6,5,4,3

Notes 6: No Foss record found

Notes 5: Applicant has no dependents.

Notes 4: PA likely meets NOC definition but he needs to provide job description letter to confirm this. Then I will decide if an interview is required by him or it can be waived. On July 10th at around 8.15 am EST I received ADR for job description which I provided in 4 days.

Notes 3: Again Criminality was checked and put passed. Did on July 10th as well.

Most hilarious part is that notes 3,4,5,6 took just 20 minutes to be made in GCMS notes. Gap between Notes 6 and 7 is around 4.5 months. I can laugh at this.

Again the frustration continues as my file was not touched from July 14th (the day on which I uploaded ADR) till 15th August (the day on which I ordered my GCMS notes). So, it means that all of you who say that ordering GCMS notes move your file in a positive and forward direction are absolutely right. Thanks to all of you. Big Cheers.

Notes 1 and 2 were made simultaneously on the same date Aug 15th with gap of thirty minutes.

Notes 2: It says that my ADR has been reviewed and they found it brief but they are satisfied that I meet the occupational requirements. They came to this conclusion by considering my educational and other documents. Interview waived.

Notes 1: Addresses and Background info for all over 18 on application reviewed including all sub tabs (I think info of my family members have been noticed and reviewed).

From Notes 2 it can be seen that interview has been waived off, but still the assessments section says eligibility is subject to recommended interview. Can some senior person like legal falcon or Bimale help with any suggestion? It will be highly appreciated please.

I think my application has not been touched after issuance of these notes on 15th Aug. So should I order them again to see if some movement has been made or not?

I would like to thank all of you again for your effortless and endless support and guiding me in a forward direction?

If anyone has any question or suggestion for me, then please don’t hesitate sharing it.

Regards,

Dr. Muhammad Bilal
 

zohebshaikh

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Notes 4: PA likely meets NOC definition but he needs to provide job description letter to confirm this. Then I will decide if an interview is required by him or it can be waived. On July 10th at around 8.15 am EST I received ADR for job description which I provided in 4 days.
Thank you for sharing, will appreciate if you can clarify the following please:
  1. Had you not provided the employer reference letter which listed your duties & responsibilities while submitting your eAPR ?
  2. What was the subsequent "job description letter" you provided when you received the ADR ?
 

dvm.bilaeen88l

Star Member
Jun 29, 2018
120
49
35
Pakistan
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3114
App. Filed.......
18-01-2018
Doc's Request.
05-02-2018, 10-07-2018
AOR Received.
18-01-2018
Passport Req..
03-10-2018
Thank you for sharing, will appreciate if you can clarify the following please:
  1. Had you not provided the employer reference letter which listed your duties & responsibilities while submitting your eAPR ?
  2. What was the subsequent "job description letter" you provided when you received the ADR ?
You are most welcome zoheb. Its my pleasure to help you in any possible way.
1. When I submitted my application, I submitted a letter of experience from my ex employer who was Director of the institute in which I worked. I had resigned from that job in last year April and he gave me very brief letter just stating that I was employed as VO in institute from xxx to xxx and reisgned from job on xxx. Nothing more then that. This was becuase of their hippocracy as they do this to every person who intends to work for betterment of the institute. They were actually very bad people. I left that permanent 17th grade job and joined university for my mphil studies. They were not willing to give me leave for my studies and they assigned me the procurement section as well. I am a technical person, a doctor by profession and there came the clash and conflict which leaded to my resignation.
When submitting that application I just put that letter with it. It was not enough I knew straight away but I do not wanted to beg in front of that director to issue me a detailed JD letter.
So when they demanded the ADR on 10th July asking me to present detailed JD letter, I just wrote an application to Director and asked him to issue me a letter according to a format given by myself.
He still did not issue accordingly but he mentioned two of my major duties which I performed as a VO over there. Which served the cause as required by IRCC. I submitted that ADR. They actually wanted to match my job duties with those enlisted in their NOC system of Veterinarians. 3114. Both of duties were matching with NOC hence they accepted my primary occupation.
Now I hope that my eligibility is underway to be recommended pass or straight away passed.
I am planing to order notes again in this week. Any suggestions from you will be appreciated.
Thank you.
Best Regards.
Dr. Bilal
 

dvm.bilaeen88l

Star Member
Jun 29, 2018
120
49
35
Pakistan
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3114
App. Filed.......
18-01-2018
Doc's Request.
05-02-2018, 10-07-2018
AOR Received.
18-01-2018
Passport Req..
03-10-2018
Thank you for sharing, will appreciate if you can clarify the following please:
  1. Had you not provided the employer reference letter which listed your duties & responsibilities while submitting your eAPR ?
  2. What was the subsequent "job description letter" you provided when you received the ADR ?
2. The ADR which I provided was having exactly same three lines as previous letter, that this is to certify that xxx son of xxx served institute from xxx to xxx. His main duties included disease diagnosis and vaccine and biological production.
Last line was new, which was needed by IRCC.
Now they have waived my interview which was recommended earlier as they are satisified now. But dont know if there has been any further work done on my file since Aug 15 or not.
Hope for the best.
Regards.
 

zohebshaikh

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Aug 13, 2017
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2. The ADR which I provided was having exactly same three lines as previous letter, that this is to certify that xxx son of xxx served institute from xxx to xxx. His main duties included disease diagnosis and vaccine and biological production.
Last line was new, which was needed by IRCC.
Now they have waived my interview which was recommended earlier as they are satisified now. But dont know if there has been any further work done on my file since Aug 15 or not.
Hope for the best.
Regards.
am glad that worked out for you :)

i was just curious as to what other document could satisfy IRCC's concern if you had already provided the reference letter as per the IRCC requirement while submitting eAPR. I had a doubt though that something may have been missing in the reference letter, which subsequently got addressed through the document you provided in response to the ADR. I just wanted to satisfy my curiosity, Thanks :)

Good Luck !
 

dvm.bilaeen88l

Star Member
Jun 29, 2018
120
49
35
Pakistan
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3114
App. Filed.......
18-01-2018
Doc's Request.
05-02-2018, 10-07-2018
AOR Received.
18-01-2018
Passport Req..
03-10-2018
am glad that worked out for you :)

i was just curious as to what other document could satisfy IRCC's concern if you had already provided the reference letter as per the IRCC requirement while submitting eAPR. I had a doubt though that something may have been missing in the reference letter, which subsequently got addressed through the document you provided in response to the ADR. I just wanted to satisfy my curiosity, Thanks :)

Good Luck !
Its totally fine Zoheb.
Thank you for your response.
The document which I provided earlier did not mention my job duties which I performed as a VO in that institute. I think that was what they wanted to clarify so they asked for detailed JD letter. I am thankful to Almighty Allah that the letter provided as response to that ADR actually satisfied them.
Any suggestions for re-ordering GCMS notes Zoheb? I think my file has not been touched since 15th Aug (the day on which I ordered my first GCMS set).
Best Regards.
 
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zohebshaikh

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Its totally fine Zoheb.
Thank you for your response.
The document which I provided earlier did not mention my job duties which I performed as a VO in that institute. I think that was what they wanted to clarify so they asked for detailed JD letter. I am thankful to Almighty Allah that the letter provided as response to that ADR actually satisfied them.
Any suggestions for re-ordering GCMS notes Zoheb? I think my file has not been touched since 15th Aug (the day on which I ordered my first GCMS set).
Best Regards.
Since the GCMS lags by 30 days, i plan to order a new one every time i get the GCMS notes i ordered. So i get a 30 day update and also incase my application is stuck and the GCMS can prod it on (if at all), my application will hopefully not stay stuck for more than 30 days.

Well just my way of seeing it, no science to it really. Good luck !
 

dvm.bilaeen88l

Star Member
Jun 29, 2018
120
49
35
Pakistan
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3114
App. Filed.......
18-01-2018
Doc's Request.
05-02-2018, 10-07-2018
AOR Received.
18-01-2018
Passport Req..
03-10-2018
Since the GCMS lags by 30 days, i plan to order a new one every time i get the GCMS notes i ordered. So i get a 30 day update and also incase my application is stuck and the GCMS can prod it on (if at all), my application will hopefully not stay stuck for more than 30 days.

Well just my way of seeing it, no science to it really. Good luck !
Yes you are right. I am also thinking to order another set of GCMS notes.
I believe it will be a positive step and file will not stuck for more than 30 days.
Thank you Zoheb for your time.
Cheers.
 
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dvm.bilaeen88l

Star Member
Jun 29, 2018
120
49
35
Pakistan
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3114
App. Filed.......
18-01-2018
Doc's Request.
05-02-2018, 10-07-2018
AOR Received.
18-01-2018
Passport Req..
03-10-2018
Dear All,

I want to share something quite unique with all of you today.

I have sent an email to London VO on 27th Sep, to which I have received following response today in evening:

Dear Sir,


A letter was sent to you through the MyCIC profile on 10 July requesting you to submit the following:

· Please provide a letter with detailed information about your job duties as a veterinary officer, signed and dated by your current employer.

The letter provided you with thirty day to comply. We have not received a response to this request as yet.


Please provide a response within the next ten days or as soon as possible. You may submit the document by email.


Sincerely,


VCM


Program Assistant | Assistante de programme

Immigration Section – London | Section de l’immigration – Londres


Canada House | Maison du Canada
Trafalgar Square
London | Londres
SW1Y 5BJ

Now, the point of concern is that this letter has already been uploaded to myCIC account by my consultant on 14th July in my presence. Although, we have received no acknowledgment email for that document but my GCMS notes issued on 15th August say that they found this letter to be very brief but they are satisfied with my primary occupational requirements and interview is set waived off.

Now, there maybe two scenarios: One they are asking for my current employer this time around. If this is the case then there should have arrived two letters simultaneously on July 10th in myCIC account, out of which one letter was ignored by my consultant and he informed about the other one. Second Scenario could be that they now need this letter for further processing of my application. The letter which I got on 10th July did ask only to provide a detailed job description letter signed and stamped from my employer. It did not mention current or ex-employer.

Whatever the case maybe I am really devastated by the proceedings made in this regard, as it has taken around 3 months since I submitted that letter. If they needed letter from current employer as well then why they have not communicated in an effective way and mentioned current employer. Such a shame.

However, I have asked my current employer to issue that letter in my favor which will be submitted tomorrow hopefully along with letter from ex-employer in order to avoid any confusion this time around.

I want to know what does the abbreviation VCM means, this maybe the name of the person. He is a program assistant at London VO. He is certainly not a Visa Officer, this means that my application is still stuck at the eligibility phase and won’t be clearing until this letter reaches them and satisfies them as well.

Does anyone have the knowledge of Mr. VCM. When an application does reaches him and when the final decision can be expected. I have heard on the forum that he is notorious of putting the applicant in SS. Please share if you have any insights about this.

Dear Bimale Sir, if you can quote anything from your previous experience with London VO. Please Share.

Best Regards,

Dr. Muhammad Bilal
 

dvm.bilaeen88l

Star Member
Jun 29, 2018
120
49
35
Pakistan
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3114
App. Filed.......
18-01-2018
Doc's Request.
05-02-2018, 10-07-2018
AOR Received.
18-01-2018
Passport Req..
03-10-2018
This is to inform all of you that I have received my Passport Request email today at around 1.45pm PST from London VO.

I have been asked to submit passports for stamping visa at near by visa centre, which will be submitted by tomorrow In sha Allah.

I am thankful to all of you for helping me in tough times, when I was getting anxious, you people helped me out. Big Cheers for that.

Special thanks to bimale sir. Thank you very much dear sir. Wish you all the very best for your life.

My complete timeline is as following:
IELTS - Listening 8.0, Reading 7.0, Writing 7.5, Speaking 7.0 (9th September 2017, result was announced on 22nd September - Did through BC)
CRS - 472
WES - Received report on 4th December 2017
ITA - 06 December 2017 (Completed EE profile and received ITA with in 6 hours. Alhumdulillah)
Primary Applicant without any dependents.
AOR - 18th January 2018
Medical Passed - 5th February 2018
ADR - 5th February (Schedule A/ Travel History), 10th July (Job Description Letter).
VO - London
PPR - 3rd October
Passport Submission -
Account updated to Decision Made -
Passport Received -
GCMS Notes - Ordered once on August 15 and received on 15th September. Ordered another set on 1st October, yet to receive them.
CSE Raised - Once to IRCC on August 06 and another on 27th September to London VO.
Emails Sent - Twice to London VO.

Ordering notes of GCMS System helped me a lot. I would strongly encourage all of you to please order them, as ordering them pushes your file forward to some extend.

Thank you everyone and I wish everyone the very best of luck and remaining January applicants as well as other applicants may get their PPR as soon as possible.

Regards,
Dr. Muhammad Bilal
 
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Param Anttal

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I hope to find all of you very well.

I have received my GCMS notes today 15th Sep (6.20 am EST), exactly after 30 days. Total 85 pages.

Page 1 shows the entire detail of my application. Page 2 shows the most important ‘Assessments’ portion and it reads out as:

Eligibility: Recommend Interview

Security: Not Started (I am much relieved that I am not under SS, but only under eligibility check)

Criminality: Passed

Medical: Passed

Info Sharing: Complete (From notes I have found that this was done with USA and no adverse info found, I think that is what they do under security checks – If I am not mistaken)

My Primary Office is London and Secondary Office is Islamabad.

Page 3 states codes and names of all 5 secondary offices assigned to my file.

Page 4 and 5 mentions provinces data

Page 6 again shows my details with same status of security, criminality, medicals and info sharing. No mention of eligibility here.

Page 9-23 show Eligibility Assessments 1 and 2, and they have status of Passed- Candidates written against them. These pages deal with detailed analysis of my application with respect to education, language, work history and all other factors etc. All attributes are discussed here in detail. Nothing unfavorable found in these pages.

Page 26-29 show admissibility, criminality, medical and info sharing details and all have status of Passed in front of them.

Page 30-36 show the outgoing communications made by IRCC with myself.

Page 36-44 show the incoming communications which I have made with IRCC (At time of submission of application)

Page 45-50 Verification, Events, Fees, Associations, and History etc.

Page 50- 57 shows Applications Section and it has total of 29 application new and old values with the most recent mentioning Recommend Interview. Application 1 shows this and it is from London.

Page 58-68 shows total of 39 Activities. The Activity 1 again shows that Recommend Interview but it is from Centralized Intake Office, not from my Primary Office- London. These activities show that I have cleared many steps of Eligibility or may be it has been analyzed many times.

Page 68 shows that my file was transferred to London VO on 8th March 2018 due to workload distribution.

Page 69-79 shows the electronic documents submitted in GCMS system.

Page 80-85 have the Notes section, which I suppose is the main part. Total of 19 notes. I will put them in reverse order just to clarify.

Notes 11- Asks for Schedule A form which was demanded by IRCC on 5th Feb. I submitted that on 7th feb.

Notes 9-10 were made on 7th Feb in which they verified all CRS scores claimed by myself. Education, work history, language etc.

Notes 8 put Criminality Passed (R10). Formed on same date 7th Feb

Notes 7 were made by CIO and checked A11.2 and the case processing officer has put file on Review Required under Primary Occupation. Then again he has put Review Required on R76 (FSW Points) mainly because he was not convinced with my work history. He gave verified 59 points where I have claimed 70. After this he has mentioned my CRS to be 472 and cut off for that round 452, and he has verified 422 points and has put me under review required for other 50 points mainly subject to occupational clearance.

After these notes were made on 23rd Feb my file was transferred to London VO on 8th March and it saw zero movement till 10th July. I don’t know what to comment here. This is really frustrating to know and my guess was 100 percent right that they have not touched my file for around 4 months during that period.

On July 10th, they made notes 6,5,4,3

Notes 6: No Foss record found

Notes 5: Applicant has no dependents.

Notes 4: PA likely meets NOC definition but he needs to provide job description letter to confirm this. Then I will decide if an interview is required by him or it can be waived. On July 10th at around 8.15 am EST I received ADR for job description which I provided in 4 days.

Notes 3: Again Criminality was checked and put passed. Did on July 10th as well.

Most hilarious part is that notes 3,4,5,6 took just 20 minutes to be made in GCMS notes. Gap between Notes 6 and 7 is around 4.5 months. I can laugh at this.

Again the frustration continues as my file was not touched from July 14th (the day on which I uploaded ADR) till 15th August (the day on which I ordered my GCMS notes). So, it means that all of you who say that ordering GCMS notes move your file in a positive and forward direction are absolutely right. Thanks to all of you. Big Cheers.

Notes 1 and 2 were made simultaneously on the same date Aug 15th with gap of thirty minutes.

Notes 2: It says that my ADR has been reviewed and they found it brief but they are satisfied that I meet the occupational requirements. They came to this conclusion by considering my educational and other documents. Interview waived.

Notes 1: Addresses and Background info for all over 18 on application reviewed including all sub tabs (I think info of my family members have been noticed and reviewed).

From Notes 2 it can be seen that interview has been waived off, but still the assessments section says eligibility is subject to recommended interview. Can some senior person like legal falcon or Bimale help with any suggestion? It will be highly appreciated please.

I think my application has not been touched after issuance of these notes on 15th Aug. So should I order them again to see if some movement has been made or not?

I would like to thank all of you again for your effortless and endless support and guiding me in a forward direction?

If anyone has any question or suggestion for me, then please don’t hesitate sharing it.

Regards,

Dr. Muhammad Bilal
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