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Spousal sponsorship

JustinG

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Aug 20, 2018
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Hi Guys, just a quick question. i am about to submit my application for spousal sponsorship but I am somewhat unclear on the police certificates. I am doing an inland application so I need both a Canadian police certificate as well as a Mexican one. The Canadian one is no problem however for the Mexican one I am not sure on how to go about getting that one. On the official website it still uses the instructions of sending the fingerprints and pictures along with the application so that they would get the certificate themselves. However when going through the basic guide for the application it says that now the police certificates need to be included from the very beginning.

So my main question would be, do I send them the fingerprints etc. along with my application like they wrote on the website or do I need to have both the Mexican and Canadian police certificate already included at the start of the application like they officially said?

Thanks!
 

Deke

Star Member
Jan 13, 2018
53
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Albania
Visa Office......
Rome
App. Filed.......
16 11 2017
Doc's Request.
13 01 2018
Med's Request
23 01 2018
Med's Done....
30 01 2018
Hi to everyone.
Anyone here waiting from november 2017 ?

Does anyone knows if someone got their papers approved recently ??
Wish you the best luck
 

SoithAsalOlc

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Aug 20, 2018
13
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Hey guys!! I had some questions about the spousal sponsorship process, specific to my situation, and whether it would hurt our process or not.

I am 24 Canadian, fiance is 39 from Brazil. We have been dating for 13 months, living together for 4, and engaged for about 3. We are both pretty private people, and while everyone knows we are together, only a couple know we are engaged (no facebook updates or instagram posts). We also really only want to have a court house wedding, small and simple, with my mum and his best friend there to witness in a month or two. We do not have a bank account yet, but are in the process, and I will be declaring him on my taxes in a couple months. He has also been divorced, something that was finalized about 7 months ago.

My question is, because everything has happened a bit quickly, because we are private, and because we dont want to have a big wedding, will that hurt our chances of getting approval when we go for the application? I dont want anyone to think it is an illegal situation, when our relationship is real and we do want to be together for the rest of our lives.

Any advice, or am I over thinking?Hey guys!! I had some questions about the spousal sponsorship process, specific to my situation, and whether it would hurt our process or not.

I am 24 Canadian, fiance is 39 from Brazil. We have been dating for 13 months, living together for 4, and engaged for about 3. We are both pretty private people, and while everyone knows we are together, only a couple know we are engaged (no facebook updates or instagram posts). We also really only want to have a court house wedding, small and simple, with my mum and his best friend there to witness in a month or two. We do not have a bank account yet, but are in the process, and I will be declaring him on my taxes in a couple months. He has also been divorced, something that was finalized about 7 months ago.

My question is, because everything has happened a bit quickly, because we are private, and because we dont want to have a big wedding, will that hurt our chances of getting approval when we go for the application? I dont want anyone to think it is an illegal situation, when our relationship is real and we do want to be together for the rest of our lives.

Any advice, or am I over thinking?
 

canuck_in_uk

VIP Member
May 4, 2012
31,553
7,205
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
06/12
Hi Guys, just a quick question. i am about to submit my application for spousal sponsorship but I am somewhat unclear on the police certificates. I am doing an inland application so I need both a Canadian police certificate as well as a Mexican one. The Canadian one is no problem however for the Mexican one I am not sure on how to go about getting that one. On the official website it still uses the instructions of sending the fingerprints and pictures along with the application so that they would get the certificate themselves. However when going through the basic guide for the application it says that now the police certificates need to be included from the very beginning.

So my main question would be, do I send them the fingerprints etc. along with my application like they wrote on the website or do I need to have both the Mexican and Canadian police certificate already included at the start of the application like they officially said?

Thanks!
PCCs need to be included upfront unless the specific country instructions state otherwise.

You do not submit a Canadian PCC unless specifically told to while your app is in process. Most people never have to.

For the Mexican PCC, you can't submit it upfront. The fingerprints/pictures/etc. are not included upfront either, as they must be mailed dirctly to the Mexico VO once you are instructed to do so.
 

canuck_in_uk

VIP Member
May 4, 2012
31,553
7,205
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
06/12
Hey guys!! I had some questions about the spousal sponsorship process, specific to my situation, and whether it would hurt our process or not.

I am 24 Canadian, fiance is 39 from Brazil. We have been dating for 13 months, living together for 4, and engaged for about 3. We are both pretty private people, and while everyone knows we are together, only a couple know we are engaged (no facebook updates or instagram posts). We also really only want to have a court house wedding, small and simple, with my mum and his best friend there to witness in a month or two. We do not have a bank account yet, but are in the process, and I will be declaring him on my taxes in a couple months. He has also been divorced, something that was finalized about 7 months ago.

My question is, because everything has happened a bit quickly, because we are private, and because we dont want to have a big wedding, will that hurt our chances of getting approval when we go for the application? I dont want anyone to think it is an illegal situation, when our relationship is real and we do want to be together for the rest of our lives.

Any advice, or am I over thinking?Hey guys!! I had some questions about the spousal sponsorship process, specific to my situation, and whether it would hurt our process or not.

I am 24 Canadian, fiance is 39 from Brazil. We have been dating for 13 months, living together for 4, and engaged for about 3. We are both pretty private people, and while everyone knows we are together, only a couple know we are engaged (no facebook updates or instagram posts). We also really only want to have a court house wedding, small and simple, with my mum and his best friend there to witness in a month or two. We do not have a bank account yet, but are in the process, and I will be declaring him on my taxes in a couple months. He has also been divorced, something that was finalized about 7 months ago.

My question is, because everything has happened a bit quickly, because we are private, and because we dont want to have a big wedding, will that hurt our chances of getting approval when we go for the application? I dont want anyone to think it is an illegal situation, when our relationship is real and we do want to be together for the rest of our lives.

Any advice, or am I over thinking?
You don't need a big wedding. IRCC will evaluate whether or not the relationship is genuine from the history. As you will have been living together for 6 months when you apply, you should be fine. I suggest you address the age difference upfront, as it could be a red flag.
 

SoithAsalOlc

Member
Aug 20, 2018
13
0
You don't need a big wedding. IRCC will evaluate whether or not the relationship is genuine from the history. As you will have been living together for 6 months when you apply, you should be fine. I suggest you address the age difference upfront, as it could be a red flag.
How do you recommend we address it?
 

Tygerr

Member
Aug 21, 2018
11
5
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Sydney
Hello everyone,
I live in mississauga, ontario and have PR. My spouse lives and work in India. I Sent my spouse application on 21 June 2018, was delivered on 25 June. Still haven't received any response. Any suggestions?


Also, I sent my application through canada express post, to CPC Sydney- 49 dorchester street. Was that the right move?
 
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kcward7

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May 4, 2017
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Hello everyone,
I live in mississauga, ontario and have PR. My spouse lives and work in India. I Sent my spouse application on 21 June 2018, was delivered on 25 June. Still haven't received any response. Any suggestions?


Also, I sent my application through canada express post, to CPC Sydney- 49 dorchester street. Was that the right move?
Normal timeline, AOR is taking 8 weeks and possibly even more in some cases
 

Lmac4

Star Member
Jan 23, 2018
67
27
Hi Leon/ALL,

Quick question about Sponsoring your spouse while living in another country...
If I get a letter from my parents stating we are living there, as well as a possible job LEAD (not actually guaranteed), as well as some friends that state they know of our return, will that be enough for "proof" that we will live in Canada? Do these need to be validated?

Thanks Leon!


So you are in the situation that you want to sponsor your foreign spouse for permanent residency of Canada and don't know where to start. Here are some tips:

Married, common law or conjugal partners

First you need to pick an application class. There are three of them: married, common-law and conjugal. For all of them, you need to prove the genuineity of your relationship. For common-law, you need to prove that you have lived together for 12 months or longer. For conjugal, you need to prove that you have combined your affairs as much as possible but there are real immigration barriers or other barriers preventing you from living together or getting married. Conjugal is the hardest to prove. For example, if your partner could get a visit visa to come to Canada for 6 months and then apply for an extension to get the full year, even though they will not be allowed to work, that is not considered an immigration barrier. An immigration barrier is if your partner tries to get a visit visa to come to Canada and is repeatedly refused. Some people have had luck with the conjugal class but try to avoid it if possible.

Outland or inland?

Now you need to decide if to apply outland or inland. If your spouse is not in Canada and can not get a visa to go to Canada, you must apply outland. That means that you will send your application to Mississauga and they will approve you as a sponsor. The time that takes is usually 1-2 months to but current processing times can be seen here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#sponsorship After that, the application is forwarded to your local visa office. If your spouse is residing in a country other than the country of their nationality, you can pick which of the two visa offices you want. Otherwise it will be processed in their country of nationality. You can see the processing times here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/international/05-fc-spouses.asp

If your spouse is staying in Canada as a visitor or on some other visa, you can pick whether you want to apply outland or inland. Outland is generally faster and has appeal rights but a downside to outland is that if an interview is required, your spouse will have to travel to the visa office in the country where it's being processed. Inland has the downside that it's generally not advised that your spouse travels while you are waiting for your processing because it is a requirement of inland that they reside in Canada and if they are denied entry at the border for some reason, your application is gone. If an interview is required for inland, you may also have to wait a long time for it. The inland application would be sent to Vegreville and if all goes well, you would get a first stage approval, usually in 6 to 8 months. The current processing times can be seen here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#perm_res Then the file is forwarded to your local CIC office where you live and they will contact you for a landing appointment. Getting the PR with inland usually takes 12-18 months. If an interview is required for inland, Vegreville will not give first stage approval but instead will forward the application to the local CIC office without it and you will have to wait for them to have time for your interview. In some cases that can take a year or two. If you do get the first stage approval, your spouse will usually be eligible for health care and an open work permit. It is actually a good idea when applying inland to send an application form for a visit visa extension as well as the open work permit to be given at first stage approval all in one package so it's tied together.

Which method to pick depends on your situation. If your spouses country of nationality has a long processing time or your spouse does not want to have to travel there for a possible interview, then inland is the way to go. For faster processing and freedom of travel during the processing time, outland would be better. You can find the application forms for inland at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/spouse.asp and the application forms for outland at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp

Avoiding potential problems with your application

The most common reason for people to be called for an interview is that the visa officer has doubts about the relationship being genuine. It is up to you to send immigration some quality data, emails, chat logs, phone records, photos, letters and other material to prove to them that your relationship is the real thing. Other reasons you might have problems with is eligibility of the sponsor. The sponsor can not be on social assistance, can not be bankrupt and can not have a record of violent crimes or crimes against family members. If that is the case, better talk to a lawyer and get that cleared up before attempting to apply.

Dependent children

If your spouse has dependent children, they must be included in the PR application, even if they are not coming to Canada. They will need to have medicals as well to keep the option open to sponsor them later. The only way that immigration will accept the application without those medicals is if the children are no longer minors and refuse to have it or if the children are in the full custody of their other parent who refuses to make them available for medicals. In that case, your spouse needs to sign a statement stating that they know that they will never be able to sponsor these children to Canada in the future.

Dependent children are classified as single and either under 22 years of age or if they are older, they must have been full time students since before age 22 or dependent on their parent due to a disability or medical problem.

Refusals due to income and medicals

You will be asked to provide information about your income but you will not be denied to sponsor your spouse and dependent children because you do not make enough money. It is possible though that if you make absolutely no money at all that immigration may ask you how you plan to support yourselves.

Spouses and dependent children are also exempt from the clause about excessive demand on health care so you do not have to worry about them being refused for that reason.

Sponsoring your spouse while living in another country

If you are a Canadian citizen, you can sponsor your spouse without being in Canada but you do then have to prove that you are planning on moving to Canada when your spouse gets approved for permanent residency. Such proof can include having arranged jobs, being accepted to college, having arranged housing or letters from friends & relatives stating that they know of your plans and that you can stay with them while you look for housing etc.

If you are a PR, you must reside in Canada in order to sponsor your spouse. You can chance short vacations (remember that a Canadian vacation is generally no longer than 2 weeks) but if immigration finds out that you are not in Canada, you risk getting your application refused.
 
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kate61

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Sep 7, 2016
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If waiting for an interview date after all the processing was done, does that always mean they want us to prove our relationship? Which is ok because we are real. But how long does it take? Processing is 12 months and our date is September 13 next month. We don't know what to expect next because everyone including our para legal just says wait. They haven't told us our interview date yet.
We have been in the dark through all of this being told just wait. Waiting for your loved one with your life on hold is horrible. :(
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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Buffalo
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19-08-2010
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28-06-2010
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01-10-2010
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05-10-2010
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05-10-2010
If waiting for an interview date after all the processing was done, does that always mean they want us to prove our relationship? Which is ok because we are real. But how long does it take? Processing is 12 months and our date is September 13 next month. We don't know what to expect next because everyone including our para legal just says wait. They haven't told us our interview date yet.
We have been in the dark through all of this being told just wait. Waiting for your loved one with your life on hold is horrible. :(
Have you been notified that you need an interview? Is this for an inland or outland application? If outlandI, this means IRCC has concerns about your relationship or application. You need to order your GCMS notes asap to find out what they are concerned about so that you can effectively prepare. Forget about the 12 month processing. If you've been asked for an interview, your application is now non-standard and you unfortunately cannot expect normal processing times.