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Do I need to show images with colleagues/staff to prove I really worked there?

Ghan_Shyam

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I've an experience of 2.5 years and from last 10 months I'm not working anywhere & helping in family's agriculture work. I worked as a web developer NOC 2175. To prove my experience I've these docs

1. appointment cert.
2. Appreciation cert.
3. Promotion/appraisal cert.
4. Reference letters from employers.
5. Salary certificate.
6. Income Tax returns of last 5 months only because salary of those 5 months was taxable before that salary was below tax limits.

There was this person I was talking to who told me that I need to show additional docs as well which are as follows -

1. Confirmation letter ----- I can try to arrange but no guarantee
2. Salary slips/pay stubs ---- not possible, I don't think employer will give it in back dates & I already have a document showing salaries annually and quarterly
3. Bank statements to confirm each month salary deposited in your bank ----- no record of this as i've left job almost an year ago and never maintained a/c therefore deactivated by bank and they refused to give any kind of past a/c details
4. Brochures of your company ----- can be arranged
5. Direct number of your immediate boss ----- mentioned in letterheads
6. Projects you've worked ---- even i don't exactly remember it but I can try but still not possible to prove
7. Any official document which gives your role ------ don't understand what doc is this
8. Your photos with colleagues during official work ----- all the employees worked with me already left as it was a startup company and everybody worked there to gain experience.

Do i really need these above docs. I don't think I need them.


My CRS is 445 which is above Express entry pool cutoff and I'm told by many PR holders that if my documents describe everything accurately then I need not to worry because embassy don't even bother to call in EE cases if documentation is proper. I can say this with guarantee that the docs that I have are accurate and clearly mentions what needs to be mentioned, work hours, annual salary, job duties & roles etc. I am not worried if they call or not but for me to arrange other docs would be near impossible. so please tell what can I do. Do I really need these extra docs that this person told me ????
 

Mack Dash

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Aug 10, 2018
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I've an experience of 2.5 years and from last 10 months I'm not working anywhere & helping in family's agriculture work. I worked as a web developer NOC 2175. To prove my experience I've these docs

1. appointment cert.
2. Appreciation cert.
3. Promotion/appraisal cert.
4. Reference letters from employers.
5. Salary certificate.
6. Income Tax returns of last 5 months only because salary of those 5 months was taxable before that salary was below tax limits.

There was this person I was talking to who told me that I need to show additional docs as well which are as follows -

1. Confirmation letter ----- I can try to arrange but no guarantee
2. Salary slips/pay stubs ---- not possible, I don't think employer will give it in back dates & I already have a document showing salaries annually and quarterly
3. Bank statements to confirm each month salary deposited in your bank ----- no record of this as i've left job almost an year ago and never maintained a/c therefore deactivated by bank and they refused to give any kind of past a/c details
4. Brochures of your company ----- can be arranged
5. Direct number of your immediate boss ----- mentioned in letterheads
6. Projects you've worked ---- even i don't exactly remember it but I can try but still not possible to prove
7. Any official document which gives your role ------ don't understand what doc is this
8. Your photos with colleagues during official work ----- all the employees worked with me already left as it was a startup company and everybody worked there to gain experience.

Do i really need these above docs. I don't think I need them.


My CRS is 445 which is above Express entry pool cutoff and I'm told by many PR holders that if my documents describe everything accurately then I need not to worry because embassy don't even bother to call in EE cases if documentation is proper. I can say this with guarantee that the docs that I have are accurate and clearly mentions what needs to be mentioned, work hours, annual salary, job duties & roles etc. I am not worried if they call or not but for me to arrange other docs would be near impossible. so please tell what can I do. Do I really need these extra docs that this person told me ????
I talked to many PR holders here and many peoples who have submitted docs and they all told me that main docs that needs to be submitted are reference letter, experience certificate & pay stubs with tax clearances,..... but if annual salary is mentioned in reference letter, then you don't even have to submit pay stubs. Only reference letter and experience certificate is enough. Nobody asks for pics with colleagues and projects you have worked on. They never do this much level investigation. They will simply put a ban rather then bothering themselves too much.

Yes you're right if your documentation is proper like if it mentions working hours, annual salary, roles and job duties then CHC really never calls as told by few PR holder. They only call if they don't get those details that they want or if they don't understand what your job was. Otherwise nobody calls. This thing is told to me by consultants, and many PR holders. Although it depends a lot on their mood so they may can call or do physical inquiry.

You should also see what others are saying on this.
 

ContactFront

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The only document that is mandatory is the reference letter as long as it includes all the information IRCC requires, e.g. hours of work, salary, etc.

You may choose to send pay stubs, tax records etc to supplement if one or two things are missing from your reference letter. If you worked in Canada it's also a good idea to submit NOA or T4.

No need to send them your party photos.
 

yellowhornet

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I am thinking of attaching photos as well, as I cannot have hours of work stated on a document. We overwork a lot, company fears liability and will only say 'full-time' on letters. I have arranged for the other supporting docs: salary deposit bank statement,tax,social benefits payment, etc.
Do I need to include an explanation for the lack of work hours in the LOE?
 
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Mack Dash

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I am thinking of attaching photos as well, as I cannot have hours of work stated on a document. We overwork a lot, company fears liability and will only say 'full-time' on letters. I have arranged for the other supporting docs: salary deposit bank statement,tax,social benefits payment, etc.
Do I need to include an explanation for the lack of work hours in the LOE?
one thing is that showing extra docs also creates a doubt in the mind of scrutiny officer. that's why i asked something similar to this. In my opinion applicant should show minimum docs possible that completes CIC requirements. I've heard that reference letter is enough if salary & working hours is mentioned in it & if not then a document showing salary is needed and an experience letter showing working hours or days.

In my opinion one should show least documents possible if the docs are fulfilling all the requirements.
 
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Mack Dash

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Aug 10, 2018
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The only document that is mandatory is the reference letter as long as it includes all the information IRCC requires, e.g. hours of work, salary, etc.

You may choose to send pay stubs, tax records etc to supplement if one or two things are missing from your reference letter. If you worked in Canada it's also a good idea to submit NOA or T4.

No need to send them your party photos.
Thats what I'm thinking. In my opinion applicant should submit as least docs as possible as long as the docs are fulfilling the requirements and are according to the format stated in CIC website.
My reference letter fulfills all the requirements, it mentions my job duties, my designation, working hours, annual salary everything. So I don't think I need to submit extra docs like pay stubs or pay deposit in bank records, or offer letter. Although I'll include docs like experience letter but nothing extra. It only creates doubts in the VO minds.
 
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ContactFront

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In my opinion applicant should submit as least docs as possible as long as the docs are fulfilling the requirements and are according to the format stated in CIC website.
Agreed.

In my application, all I submitted was a two page reference letter. The first page already includes everything needed. The HR was kind enough to include a second page detailing my monthly salaries so I just sent it long.
 
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Ghan_Shyam

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Agreed.

In my application, all I submitted was a two page reference letter. The first page already includes everything needed. The HR was kind enough to include a second page detailing my monthly salaries so I just sent it long.
But you were inland applicant. As mentioned in ur profile. Isn't that a thing. I'm an outland applicant
 

yellowhornet

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Thats what I'm thinking. In my opinion applicant should submit as least docs as possible as long as the docs are fulfilling the requirements and are according to the format stated in CIC website.
My reference letter fulfills all the requirements, it mentions my job duties, my designation, working hours, annual salary everything. So I don't think I need to submit extra docs like pay stubs or pay deposit in bank records, or offer letter. Although I'll include docs like experience letter but nothing extra. It only creates doubts in the VO minds.
I worry that I may inundate the VO with too much information. You made a good point.
 

yellowhornet

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Agreed.

In my application, all I submitted was a two page reference letter. The first page already includes everything needed. The HR was kind enough to include a second page detailing my monthly salaries so I just sent it long.
I see the merit of being minimalistic. However, in recent years there have been many reported cases of fraud involving my countrymen in their immigration applications. I am torn between redundantly thorough and confidently scarce.
 
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Ghan_Shyam

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I see the merit of being minimalistic. However, in recent years there have been many reported cases of fraud involving my countrymen in their immigration applications. I am torn between redundantly thorough and confidently scarce.
what kinda of fraud. enlighten us.
and which country are you from?
 

ContactFront

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I see the merit of being minimalistic. However, in recent years there have been many reported cases of fraud involving my countrymen in their immigration applications. I am torn between redundantly thorough and confidently scarce.
You said your letter doesn't include hours of work. I think you'll definitely need additional documents to prove that. Don't know how things work in your country but a tax record might help?
An LOE would be the last resort if I were you.