TRV for Pakistani Citizen Spouse of Indian PR Holder

[frightenedpanda]

Hi,

I am trying to find out more info regarding the inland spouse visa process.

I am an Indian citizen currently living in Norway on work via and have a PR and will be landing in October. There is a chance that I might get married next year to a long time friend whom I met in the US. She is a non-muslim Pakistani citizen who has been to the US and currently holds a valid US Student Visa.

If I do get married, we will be staying in Norway for a year and then moving for good and I would like her to move with me so I would like to apply for the Inland Spouse Visa. Now, I am confused about the likelihood of her getting the tourist visa to go with me and the success rate of people getting TRV in a similar situation. Also, when she appears for her TRV interview in Norway, I am pretty sure the Visa Office will ask her the purpose of traveling. Should she say that she plans to apply for Inland Spouse Visa?

I am just very confused about the process. It would be great if I can get some help regarding this.

Thankyou

 

[Bryanna]

I am an Indian citizen currently living in Norway on work via and have a PR and will be landing in October. There is a chance that I might get married next year to a long time friend whom I met in the US. She is a non-muslim Pakistani citizen who has been to the US and currently holds a valid US Student Visa.

You have probably considered the provisions for marrying under 'The Special Marriage Act' if you decide to marry in India.... or 'The Foreigners Marriage Act' if you decide to marry outside India.

If I do get married, we will be staying in Norway for a year and then moving for good and I would like her to move with me so I would like to apply for the Inland Spouse Visa. Now, I am confused about the likelihood of her getting the tourist visa to go with me and the success rate of people getting TRV in a similar situation.

The chances of a TRV approval would depend on her immigration status in the country she is applying from + the strong ties she is able to demonstrate to both her country of residence and to Pakistan + her personal financial situation + her previous travel history + the type of visit.

Also, when she appears for her TRV interview in Norway, I am pretty sure the Visa Office will ask her the purpose of traveling. Should she say that she plans to apply for Inland Spouse Visa?

Interviews for TRVs are uncommon but remain a possibility especially for borderline approval cases.

That said, the chances of a TRV approval would be slim after she marries you assuming you have landed as a PR (even if you do a soft landing). If she has a strong application then it would be a good idea to apply for a TRV before she gets married by stating a family visit/tourist (if she has family in Canada). If she applies for a TRV after getting married then it would help if you prove that you have strong reasons to return to Norway = She must return with you to Norway

 

[frightenedpanda]

That said, the chances of a TRV approval would be slim after she marries you assuming you have landed as a PR (even if you do a soft landing). If she has a strong application then it would be a good idea to apply for a TRV before she gets married by stating a family visit/tourist (if she has family in Canada). If she applies for a TRV after getting married then it would help if you prove that you have strong reasons to return to Norway = She must return with you to Norway

But if I am moving to Canada and she is applying for a tourist visa so we can travel together and then apply for Inland Spouse Visa, how will we show that she plans to return to Norway?

 

[Buletruck]

If I do get married, we will be staying in Norway for a year and then moving for good and I would like her to move with me so I would like to apply for the Inland Spouse Visa.

Just to add, you won't be able to start the permanent residency for your spouse until you return to Canada. PR's have to be in/remain in Canada for that process.

 

[frightenedpanda]

Just to add, you won't be able to start the permanent residency for your spouse until you return to Canada. PR's have to be in/remain in Canada for that process.

Oh yes, I understand that. That is why I want her to move with me. I would not want to move alone and leave her behind by herself.

 

[Bryanna]

But if I am moving to Canada and she is applying for a tourist visa so we can travel together and then apply for Inland Spouse Visa, how will we show that she plans to return to Norway?

You mentioned you will stay in Norway for a year after you get married. I was referring to applying for a TRV at that point in time.... and not when you are moving back to Canada

 

[frightenedpanda]

You mentioned you will stay in Norway for a year after you get married. I was referring to applying for a TRV at that point in time.... and not when you are moving back to Canada

Ah alright. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

So, the plan is that we will get married in Norway. Stay here for a year and I will do my job hunting in the meantime and then move once I find a suitable job. Now, when I decide to move, I would like for her to apply for a tourist visa so she can travel with me and then once we are in Canada, we apply for her Inland Spouse Visa.

 

[Bryanna]

So, the plan is that we will get married in Norway. Stay here for a year and I will do my job hunting in the meantime and then move once I find a suitable job. Now, when I decide to move, I would like for her to apply for a tourist visa so she can travel with me and then once we are in Canada, we apply for her Inland Spouse Visa.

You're getting the timing of filing her TRV application wrong. If you apply for her TRV when you're ready to move back to Canada then you can expect a TRV refusal. The visa officer would know that she wants to avoid the PR processing time and she doesn't want to wait it out in another country.

I recommend she applies for a TRV now (before she marries you) if she has a good application.... or else, she must apply shortly after she marries you and she gets a family residence permit for Norway

 

[frightenedpanda]

You're getting the timing of filing her TRV application wrong. If you apply for her TRV when you're ready to move back to Canada then you can expect a TRV refusal. The visa officer would know that she wants to avoid the PR processing time and she doesn't want to wait it out in another country.

I recommend she applies for a TRV now (before she marries you) if she has a good application.... or else, she must apply shortly after she marries you and she gets a family residence permit for Norway

Okay. So, there is almost no chance for us to go together and apply for Inland Spouse Visa. The only way I see is that she applies for a TRV and goes to Canada first. Then I go and apply for Inland Spouse.

 

[Bryanna]

Okay. So, there is almost no chance for us to go together and apply for Inland Spouse Visa. The only way I see is that she applies for a TRV and goes to Canada first. Then I go and apply for Inland Spouse.

You're still getting it wrong. I'll try to explain it again.... but you can also help if you re-read my previous posts on this thread very very carefully.


1. Your gf/future spouse is likely to be refused a TRV if she applies when you're actually moving back to Canada.

It is generally difficult to get a TRV/visitor visa when one is married to a Canadian/PR + the visa officer would know that your wife does not want to remain outside Canada while her PR is being processed. Shortcuts/circumventing processing times are not appreciated.


2. Your wife can apply for a TRV now if has a strong application.... or she can apply shortly after she marries you i.e. when both of you are staying in Norway for one year.

If she is granted a visitor visa/TRV now or even shortly after she marries you, she does NOT have to visit as a tourist first.

After she gets the visa.... she would continue staying in Norway with you.... and she will accompany you as a tourist when you actually move back to Canada.


3. You cannot apply for an inland spousal PR application if your wife is outside Canada

 

[frightenedpanda]

You're still getting it wrong. I'll try to explain it again.... but you can also help if you re-read my previous posts on this thread very very carefully.


1. Your gf/future spouse is likely to be refused a TRV if she applies when you're actually moving back to Canada.

It is generally difficult to get a TRV/visitor visa when one is married to a Canadian/PR + the visa officer would know that your wife does not want to remain outside Canada while her PR is being processed. Shortcuts/circumventing processing times are not appreciated.


2. Your wife can apply for a TRV now if has a strong application.... or she can apply shortly after she marries you i.e. when both of you are staying in Norway for one year.

If she is granted a visitor visa/TRV now or even shortly after she marries you, she does NOT have to visit as a tourist first.

After she gets the visa.... she would continue staying in Norway with you.... and she will accompany you as a tourist when you actually move back to Canada.


3. You cannot apply for an inland spousal PR application if your wife is outside Canada

I completely understand your point and I really appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me.

I was under the impression that in order to apply for TRV she needs to have the tickets/dates with her during the interview. If that is not the case, then you're correct, she can apply for TRV now as she is the design head of her firm and that will show strong ties to her country.

 

[Bryanna]

I completely understand your point and I really appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me.

You're welcome

I was under the impression that in order to apply for TRV she needs to have the tickets/dates with her during the interview. If that is not the case, then you're correct, she can apply for TRV now as she is the design head of her firm and that will show strong ties to her country.

1. It's not advisable to book tickets before a visa is granted. Tickets are not required for the TRV application. Flight itineraries/tentative bookings that are not paid for will suffice.

2. Generally, there are no interviews for a TRV. A decision will be given based on her application.

3. If she intends to apply shortly before getting married, she could have one of her family members/a relative to invite her for a family visit.

4. She must prepare a strong application to get a longer validity TRV.

5. She does not have to travel as a tourist/visitor first. She can travel anytime during the validity of her TRV

 

[frightenedpanda]

You're welcome



1. It's not advisable to book tickets before a visa is granted. Tickets are not required for the TRV application. Flight itineraries/tentative bookings that are not paid for will suffice.

2. Generally, there are no interviews for a TRV. A decision will be given based on her application.

3. If she intends to apply shortly before getting married, she could have one of her family members/a relative to invite her for a family visit.

4. She must prepare a strong application to get a longer validity TRV.

5. She does not have to travel as a tourist/visitor first. She can travel anytime during the validity of her TRV

Thanks for laying out the points for me! I have been dealing with the US immigration for 10 years now so now I think everything requires an interview lol

She has relatives from her maternal side in Canada so I am sure they can write her a letter of Invitation. Apart from the letter, finances and a letter from her office, how else can she make the application stronger?

Also, I am guessing that once she is granted a TRV, even if she gets a short duration one and it expires before we decide to move, she can apply for another one and the chances of getting that would be higher because of her previous approval.

Or is it that the TRV will be for a longer period of time, i.e 3-5 years and once she lands in Canada the Border Security Officer will grant her the visitor status for upto 6 months?

 

[Bryanna]

She has relatives from her maternal side in Canada so I am sure they can write her a letter of Invitation. Apart from the letter, finances and a letter from her office, how else can she make the application stronger?

You'll need to post more information about her professional and personal circumstances + which maternal relative would invite her + her previous travel history + her current immigration status in the country she resides, etc.

Also, I am guessing that once she is granted a TRV, even if she gets a short duration one and it expires before we decide to move, she can apply for another one and the chances of getting that would be higher because of her previous approval.

Or is it that the TRV will be for a longer period of time, i.e 3-5 years and once she lands in Canada the Border Security Officer will grant her the visitor status for upto 6 months?

TRV validity depends on the assessment made by the visa officer. It's possible to get a validity until the passport expiry if the visa officer is convinced.

A TRV counterfoil in the passport only helps someone to board a flight to Canada. How long the person is actually allowed to stay will depend on the immigration officer at the POE

 

[frightenedpanda]

You'll need to post more information about her professional and personal circumstances + which maternal relative would invite her + her previous travel history + her current immigration status in the country she resides, etc.



TRV validity depends on the assessment made by the visa officer. It's possible to get a validity until the passport expiry if the visa officer is convinced.

A TRV counterfoil in the passport only helps someone to board a flight to Canada. How long the person is actually allowed to stay will depend on the immigration officer at the POE

Got it! thankyou so much for helping me out through this!