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yaseen123

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I am a male Canadian resident married with 3 children living in Ontario. I have been successful in winning court custody and court decree issued in Hyderabad, India for my niece who is 9 years old. I am her maternal uncle.

There is now no one to care her in India as until now my parents who are my adopted child's(neice) grandparents were looking after her are now leaving to Australia.

Can I apply for visitor visa for my adopted child urgently and then apply fo residency application in Canada when she joins us in Canada. I am so stressed.

If yes what steps and documents for visitor visa I should supply
 

canuck78

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Is she an orphan? Think the likelihood of her getting a TRV are extremely low (probably zero) given she has no ties to India. In general you will have a hard time sponsoring her even with the adoption. This could be a long process.
 

Bryanna

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I am a male Canadian resident married with 3 children living in Ontario. I have been successful in winning court custody and court decree issued in Hyderabad, India for my niece who is 9 years old. I am her maternal uncle.

There is now no one to care her in India as until now my parents who are my adopted child's(neice) grandparents were looking after her are now leaving to Australia.

Can I apply for visitor visa for my adopted child urgently and then apply fo residency application in Canada when she joins us in Canada. I am so stressed.

If yes what steps and documents for visitor visa I should supply
Has you adopted her on the basis of the eligibility guidelines of CARA (India Central Adoption Resource Authority) for international adoption by a family member?
 
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I am a male Canadian resident married with 3 children living in Ontario. I have been successful in winning court custody and court decree issued in Hyderabad, India for my niece who is 9 years old. I am her maternal uncle.

There is now no one to care her in India as until now my parents who are my adopted child's(neice) grandparents were looking after her are now leaving to Australia.

Can I apply for visitor visa for my adopted child urgently and then apply fo residency application in Canada when she joins us in Canada. I am so stressed.

If yes what steps and documents for visitor visa I should supply
Having custody of a child is VERY different than adopting a child. You need to clarify the situation.
 
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yaseen123

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Is she an orphan? Think the likelihood of her getting a TRV are extremely low (probably zero) given she has no ties to India. In general you will have a hard time sponsoring her even with the adoption. This could be a long process.
she not an orphan, The child's father been violent and abusive had abandoned the child 8 yeas ago when she was 1 year old. The mother who is my sister moved Australia with her new marriage and I won legal guardianship order from family court India. The mother submitted no objection in passing over guardianship to me(maternal uncle). i want to immigrate her to canada to live with wife and children based on guardianship order
 

yaseen123

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Having custody of a child is VERY different than adopting a child. You need to clarify the situation.
it is court custody guardianship order not adoption order. I want to apply for her residency now.

In the interim can i apply for the minor's visit visa
 

canuck_in_uk

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it is court custody guardianship order not adoption order. I want to apply for her residency now.

In the interim can i apply for the minor's visit visa
You can't apply for her residency, as she is not your legal child. Even if you adopted her, given that he mother is still alive and able to care for the child, it will still likely be seen as an Adoption of Convenience.

You can try to bring the child on a study permit.
 
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scylla

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05-10-2010
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05-10-2010
it is court custody guardianship order not adoption order. I want to apply for her residency now.

In the interim can i apply for the minor's visit visa
Unfortunately sponsoring her for residency / PR will not be possible. Guardianship does not give you the ability to do this.

I would recommend you look into bringing her to Canada on a study permit. While this will be an expensive option - it's the most realistic one for allowing her to live in Canada.
 

Bryanna

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it is court custody guardianship order not adoption order. I want to apply for her residency now.
I agree with scylla and canuck_in_uk.

You cannot apply to sponsor your niece. She is legally your niece and you are her guardian. Legal guardianship is not accepted for immigration.

Guardianship/custody of a child is temporary even if it is granted by a court because custody can be reversed/granted to the biological parent i.e. your sister if she proves - at any point in time - that she is capable of taking care of the child.

On the other hand, legal adoption is permanent and irreversible. It grants complete legal rights of the child to the adopting parent(s).

There are several conditions to be met for legal adoption in India.... starting with your religion + your age (not more than 45 years) and/or the combined age of you and your spouse (not more than 110 years) + whether or not you already have another girl child (biological or adopted), etc etc. The court guardianship order is not an adoption order.

As for inter country adoption and sponsorship, Canada and IRCC require that an adoption is in-line with the rules and regulations of the central adoption authorities in the country of adoption (in this case, CARA) + the Hague order.... even if it is adoption of a relative.


In the interim can i apply for the minor's visit visa
It will not work. Your best option is to apply to a study permit like scylla and canuck_in_uk have suggested
 
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yaseen123

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I agree with scylla and canuck_in_uk.

You cannot apply to sponsor your niece.

She is legally your niece and you are her guardian. Legal guardianship is not accepted for immigration.

Guardianship/custody of a child is temporary even if it is granted by a court because custody can be reversed/granted to the biological parent i.e. your sister if she proves - at any point in time - that she is capable of taking care of the child.

On the other hand, legal adoption is permanent and irreversible. It grants complete legal rights of the child to the adopting parent(s).

There are several conditions to be met for legal adoption in India.... starting with your religion + your age (not more than 45 years) and/or the combined age of you and your spouse (not more than 110 years) + whether or not you already have another girl child (biological or adopted), etc etc. The court guardianship order is not an adoption order.

As for inter country adoption and sponsorship, Canada and IRCC require that an adoption is in-line with the rules and regulations of the central adoption authorities in the country of adoption (in this case, CARA) + the Hague order.... even if it is adoption of a relative.



It will not work. Your best option is to apply to a study permit like scylla and canuck_in_uk have suggested

Could you please detail me the steps for study permit as school calendar year are scheduled to start in Ontario in September 2018?
 

yaseen123

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I agree with scylla and canuck_in_uk.


As for inter country adoption and sponsorship, Canada and IRCC require that an adoption is in-line with the rules and regulations of the central adoption authorities in the country of adoption (in this case, CARA) + the Hague order.... even if it is adoption of a relative.



It will not work. Your best option is to apply to a study permit like scylla and canuck_in_uk have suggested
Could you please detail me the steps for study permit as school calendar year are scheduled to start in Ontario in September 2018.
 

yaseen123

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I agree with scylla and canuck_in_uk.

You cannot apply to sponsor your niece. She is legally your niece and you are her guardian. Legal guardianship is not accepted for immigration.

Guardianship/custody of a child is temporary even if it is granted by a court because custody can be reversed/granted to the biological parent i.e. your sister if she proves - at any point in time - that she is capable of taking care of the child.

On the other hand, legal adoption is permanent and irreversible. It grants complete legal rights of the child to the adopting parent(s).

There are several conditions to be met for legal adoption in India.... starting with your religion + your age (not more than 45 years) and/or the combined age of you and your spouse (not more than 110 years) + whether or not you already have another girl child (biological or adopted), etc etc. The court guardianship order is not an adoption order.

As for inter country adoption and sponsorship, Canada and IRCC require that an adoption is in-line with the rules and regulations of the central adoption authorities in the country of adoption (in this case, CARA) + the Hague order.... even if it is adoption of a relative.




This link does not infromation about study permit under legal guardianshp
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/study-canada/study-permit/prepare/minor-children/need-permit.html
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,881
22,134
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010