So today I unfortunately join the "100+ Days of IP Club."

[zombiezombie]

almost 150 days from IP ... Office in Scarborough .... no test invite ... no other update on ecas ....

 

[vancouverbc2013]

I live in Brampton. As per ircc, my office will be Mississauga once transit is complete. Lol. In transit for 200 days.

Lol

 

[mumbai1985]

That implies that it's still in Sydney NS waiting on checks... Are from or have you visited some "unstable" part of the world?

I'm from Mumbai, India.

Call center told me that all checks are complete and waiting in queue for test in Mississauga office.

 

[keesio]

Seems like all the GTA offices are overwhelmed. Considering the sheer volume of applicants from the area, it is somewhat understandable.

 

[canvis2006]

IRCC needs to increase resources for this as they know they ALWAYS have huge number of applicants.

 

[screech339]

IRCC needs to increase resources for this as they know they ALWAYS have huge number of applicants.

Unfortunately, Trudeau has now diverted resources towards accommodating illegal refugees from US and sending them to Toronto.

 

[nofrills]

Unfortunately, Trudeau has now diverted resources towards accommodating illegal refugees from US and sending them to Toronto.

Firstly, ensuring people coming into this country - legal or illegal - are quickly and appropriately processed is what this country is all about.

That aside - where is your evidence on your remarks? The majority of illegal border crossings happen in Quebec - those who are found to have already claimed asylum in the US, are returned to their countries of origin.

Half of those claiming assylum over the last 12 months have had their applications rejected last year:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/about-half-of-border-crossers-asylum-claims-since-july-rejected/article36469154/

In the case of Haitians - 90% are rejected:
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/canada-rejecting-90-of-asylum-claims-filed-by-haitians-1.3689859

 

[screech339]

Firstly, ensuring people coming into this country - legal or illegal - are quickly and appropriately processed is what this country is all about.

That aside - where is your evidence on your remarks? The majority of illegal border crossings happen in Quebec - those who are found to have already claimed asylum in the US, are returned to their countries of origin.

Half of those claiming assylum over the last 12 months have had their applications rejected last year:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/about-half-of-border-crossers-asylum-claims-since-july-rejected/article36469154/

In the case of Haitians - 90% are rejected:
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/canada-rejecting-90-of-asylum-claims-filed-by-haitians-1.3689859

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/04/20/asylum-seekers-will-be-fast-tracked-to-ontario-starting-next-week.html

http://torontosun.com/news/local-news/toronto-seeks-help-for-dealing-with-refugee-claimants-in-shelters

https://globalnews.ca/news/4152852/illegal-border-crossings-quebec-manitoba/

The articles you posted goes to show that the resources are being wasted on the illegal processing. 90% of the Haitians should not have been processed in the first place. Trudeau's twitter diverted a lot of CIC resources to handle "fake" illegal refugees. The resources should have been used to process other applications, ie. actual legit refugee claims, legit PR applications, sponsorship, citizenship, instead of processing illegals and deporting them. (If they can get them actually deported that is. Remember Toronto is a sanctuary city, thus make it even harder to deport them.)

BTW: the articles you posted are old Oct/Nov 2017 news. It's middle of 2018 now and yet illegals are still coming in, wasting CIC's agents time on them.

 

[nofrills]

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/04/20/asylum-seekers-will-be-fast-tracked-to-ontario-starting-next-week.html

http://torontosun.com/news/local-news/toronto-seeks-help-for-dealing-with-refugee-claimants-in-shelters

https://globalnews.ca/news/4152852/illegal-border-crossings-quebec-manitoba/

The articles you posted demonstrated to show that the resources are being wasted on the illegal processing. 90% of the Haitians should not have been processed in the first place. Trudeau's twitter diverted a lot of CIC resources to handle "fake" illegal refugees. The resources should have been used to process other applications, ie. actual legit refugee claims, legit PR applications, sponsorship, citizenship, instead of processing illegals and deporting them. (If they can get them actually deported that is. Remember Toronto is a sanctuary city, thus make it even harder to deport them.)

BTW: the articles you posted are old Oct/Nov 2017 news. It's middle of 2018 now and yet illegals are still coming in, wasting CIC's agents time on them.

Politics aside, I think you are missing the point - there is no way of determining an "actual legit refugee claim" without actually processing the claim. Given there is an increase in people hopping the border, then the claimants will need to be processed, regardless of which political party is in place, unless of course you want potentially thousands of claimants in limbo with no status, then it makes sense to increase resources.

People, like you and I (I am guessing) are applying for citizenship already have PR status which means we are authorised to be here and pose less of a risk and burden to Canada - but we might still be that too. If there is an urgent need for citizenship status, then there is an avenue to request faster processing.

The articles you quote reference the challenge that cities are under with regards to sheltering refugees and asylum seekers, the government can either do nothing to increase resources for processing, so they will continue to overcrowd shelters which poses health and safety issues for everybody concerned including PRs and citizens or they increase resources to process these people to ensure their claims approved or rejected. But you can not do both - unless of course you feel there is an unlimited budget in the same way Ford ran his campaign, but unfortunately that is wrong.

 

[screech339]

Politics aside, I think you are missing the point - there is no way of determining an "actual legit refugee claim" without actually processing the claim. Given there is an increase in people hopping the border, then the claimants will need to be processed, regardless of which political party is in place, unless of course you want potentially thousands of claimants in limbo with no status, then it makes sense to increase resources.

People, like you and I (I am guessing) are applying for citizenship already have PR status which means we are authorised to be here and pose less of a risk and burden to Canada - but we might still be that too. If there is an urgent need for citizenship status, then there is an avenue to request faster processing.

The articles you quote reference the challenge that cities are under with regards to sheltering refugees and asylum seekers, the government can either do nothing to increase resources for processing, so they will continue to overcrowd shelters which poses health and safety issues for everybody concerned including PRs and citizens or they increase resources to process these people to ensure their claims approved or rejected. But you can not do both - unless of course you feel there is an unlimited budget in the same way Ford ran his campaign, but unfortunately that is wrong.

I am not missing the point. The point you are missing is that resources are being misdirected, misspend on illegal refugees. Canada should not have to receive a flood of "illegal" immigrants just to find 10% legit refugees. If there were in fact legit refugees, they would have likely been accepted in US in the first place.

If Trudeau had shut his mouth in the first place, we would not have come to this in the first place. No extra wasteful resources would have not occurred.

 

[nofrills]

I am not missing the point. The point you are missing is that resources are being misdirected, misspend on illegal refugees. Canada should not have to receive a flood of "illegal" immigrants just to find 10% legit refugees. If there were in fact legit refugees, they would have likely been accepted in US in the first place.

If Trudeau had shut his mouth in the first place, we would not have come to this in the first place. No extra wasteful resources would have not occurred.

You are letting politics and emotion blur your vision - the processing needs to be done, like it or not, and Canada has always been a home to those who are refugees, it's what this country is built on.

 

[screech339]

You are letting politics and emotion blur your vision - the processing needs to be done, like it or not, and Canada has always been a home to those who are refugees, it's what this country is built on.

Yes, processing still needs to be done. That is a given. You need to remove the rose coloured glasses and see for what it is. Fake illegal immigrants are taking advantage of Canada's generosity and hurting bona fide legit refugee who needs to be here where time is a factor that agents should be working on, instead of wasting valuable time and resources away from legit refugees. You still can't explain why 90% of the immigrants were turned away. Resources being wasted on them instead of "real" refugees. The end does not justify the means. Canada should not have to take in hundreds of "fake / illegal" refugees just to find the bona fide ones.

 

[itsmyid]

You are letting politics and emotion blur your vision - the processing needs to be done, like it or not, and Canada has always been a home to those who are refugees, it's what this country is built on.

Agree, but the problem is not whether to accept refugees, it's that the system has been greatly abused, if you just go to the 'refugee' board of this forum you will see a lot of questions being asked by folks already have legal (refugee or student) status in another country, but are trying to claim refugee in Canada, e.g. this
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/how-to-start-refugee-planning-to-settle-in-canada.563773/
and this
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/crossing-illegally.565333/
and this (who is still trying to improve his/her score for FSW but want to take a shortcut by applying for refugee..)
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/any-good-lawyer-in-toronto-for-consultation.560529/

The point is, refugees are those who truly are in danger and should be helped, but there's apparently a lot of people trying to take advantage of the system

 

[ZingyDNA]

Agree, but the problem is not whether to accept refugees, it's that the system has been greatly abused, if you just go to the 'refugee' board of this forum you will see a lot of questions being asked by folks already have legal (refugee or student) status in another country, but are trying to claim refugee in Canada, e.g. this
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/how-to-start-refugee-planning-to-settle-in-canada.563773/
and this
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/crossing-illegally.565333/
and this (who is still trying to improve his/her score for FSW but want to take a shortcut by applying for refugee..)
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/any-good-lawyer-in-toronto-for-consultation.560529/

The point is, refugees are those who truly are in danger and should be helped, but there's apparently a lot of people trying to take advantage of the system

That's right. In fact, I bet most true refugees don't have the resources to apply for refugee status in a western country, as they are just trying to live for another day!

 

[nofrills]

Yes, processing still needs to be done. That is a given. You need to remove the rose coloured glasses and see for what it is. Fake illegal immigrants are taking advantage of Canada's generosity and hurting bona fide legit refugee who needs to be here where time is a factor that agents should be working on, instead of wasting valuable time and resources away from legit refugees. You still can't explain why 90% of the immigrants were turned away. Resources being wasted on them instead of "real" refugees. The end does not justify the means.

I'm not sure what the the rose coloured glasses is in reference to - I am simply calling out your original point that Trudeau has diverted resources away to processing refugees and that it was seemingly not a good reason - the reason is that with an uptake and increase in people who are claiming asylum, there needs to be an appropriate response to ensure that people are processed to avoid overcrowding of shelters and any potential associated risks.

I don't need to explain why 90% of the immigrants were turned away - it is because their applications were rejected. This can only be done if there is somebody processing their applications, as I already mentioned, in order to do this, without unlimited resources one program will be impacted.

Canada should not have to take in hundreds of "fake / illegal" refugees just to find the bona fide ones.

Agree, and in order to ensure that refugee claims are authentic or not, they need to be processed.