Never lived with spouse!!! Express Entry application

[mt103plus]

Hi all,

Long story short, we got our AOR yesterday and uploaded everything correctly. For proof of marriage, standard marriage certificate from registrar was provided.

However, in our Address History, we do not have a common residential address during 3 years of marriage!! It's like we have not lived together after getting married in 2015.

This is because we stuck to addresses as per passport for ease of PCC etc. Is this going to be a problem?!?

This is for Express Entry FSW-O.

 

[zohebshaikh]

"common residential address" is only something they look for in 'common-law' partners.

Ideally you should have updated your passports to have the same address or mentioned it in Letter of Explanation.

However I would not worry about it. CIC is not looking for our mistakes, as long as your marriage certificate is genuine and they don't doubt your claim of marriage, you are fine.

Best of Luck !

 

[mt103plus]

Thanks! We live on rent and my wife has no proof of current residential address so getting a passport would have been nightmare.

We have enough proof of asked (travel to different countries on same date etc., pics of marriage) but worried application should not be flagged!!

 

[zagcollins]

Thanks! We live on rent and my wife has no proof of current residential address so getting a passport would have been nightmare.

We have enough proof of asked (travel to different countries on same date etc., pics of marriage) but worried application should not be flagged!!

don't worry, nothing to worry about. As far as getting passport done is going to be a nightmare is concerned, not true. Passport authorities pass the file to the police, who verify your current address. that's it. Proof needed is rent agreement and bank account. However, all this does not matter considering you have already submitted your application. All the best!

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Hi all,

Long story short, we got our AOR yesterday and uploaded everything correctly. For proof of marriage, standard marriage certificate from registrar was provided.

However, in our Address History, we do not have a common residential address during 3 years of marriage!! It's like we have not lived together after getting married in 2015.

This is because we stuck to addresses as per passport for ease of PCC etc. Is this going to be a problem?!?

This is for Express Entry FSW-O.

From what you have said, you gave IRCC a false address history. That is misrepresentation. You needed to list the ACTUAL addresses where you lived, regardless of whether they were the address in your passport.

 

[zohebshaikh]

From what you have said, you gave IRCC a false address history. That is misrepresentation. You needed to list the ACTUAL addresses where you lived, regardless of whether they were the address in your passport.

My initial thoughts too, however since he seem to have received the PCC basis the Passport address imo he will be fine !

But yes, technically it appears to be a misrepresentation.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

My initial thoughts too, however since he seem to have received the PCC basis the Passport address imo he will be fine !

But yes, technically it appears to be a misrepresentation.

Nothing technical about it. Clear misrepresentation. It made no sense to lie to IRCC about their address history.

 

[mt103plus]

All - there is no trace of my wife living with me. The name is not on rent agreement, she doesn't have a bank account in the city, is self employed and hence is not bound to a location. She juggles between her hometown and my work location. She spends most of my time with me, though.

Her passport was updated from her hometown in Feb to include my name - should I now change the address in Express Entry to current residential address?

 

[zohebshaikh]

All - there is no trace of my wife living with me. The name is not on rent agreement, she doesn't have a bank account in the city, is self employed and hence is not bound to a location. She juggles between her hometown and my work location. She spends most of my time with me, though.

Her passport was updated from her hometown in Feb to include my name - should I now change the address in Express Entry to current residential address?

This is now really a judgement call you need to make. Not sure you will have enough time within the 90 day ITA window to:

• get a passport for your wife with current residential address
• after you get the passport you will need to apply & wait for a PCC at the new address, not sure if they will issue for a newly changed address as the PCC inquiry is done by the local police station.
• change the details in the EE application
• mention in the LoE that the passport details have changed, with explanation. CIC takes a snapshot of the EE when ITA is issued and again after the e-APR is submitted. Any changes need to be reasonably explained.

All the best !

 

[mt103plus]

This is now really a judgement call you need to make. Not sure you will have enough time within the 90 day ITA window to:

• get a passport for your wife with current residential address
• after you get the passport you will need to apply & wait for a PCC at the new address, not sure if they will issue for a newly changed address as the PCC inquiry is done by the local police station.
• change the details in the EE application
• mention in the LoE that the passport details have changed, with explanation. CIC takes a snapshot of the EE when ITA is issued and again after the e-APR is submitted. Any changes need to be reasonably explained.

All the best !

Mate, my e-APR is done a week ago!

Also, in EE, there is no address history and our new passports were part of application before ITA.

 

[zohebshaikh]

Mate, my e-APR is done a week ago!

Also, in EE, there is no address history and our new passports were part of application before ITA.

So sorry, I thought you had just received your ITA . Shouldn't you have raised this query before filing the e-APR

Anyways misrepresentation, if seen so, has already happened. You have only two choices, wait or try to fix.

If you decide to make any changes now to the passport details, PCC etc you will need to have a good reason to explain the change after filing e-APR.

@canuck_in_uk was right, you should have fixed it

 

[mt103plus]

So sorry, I thought you had just received your ITA . Shouldn't you have raised this query before filing the e-APR

Anyways misrepresentation, if seen so, has already happened. You have only two choices, wait or try to fix.

If you decide to make any changes now to the passport details, PCC etc you will need to have a good reason to explain the change after filing e-APR.

Not going to change documents, just simply gonna change my wife's address in e-APR to actual residence in a few weeks (making it seem she moved from hometown to my place). It will be raised as 'change in personal circumstances.

This doesn't involve changing passport because PCC is already obtained and submitted.

Here is an old thread from Asivad that advises to stick to one address in same country. I think addresses are required for PCC and nothing else!
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/address-history.368819/

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Not going to change documents, just simply gonna change my wife's address in e-APR to actual residence in a few weeks (making it seem she moved from hometown to my place). It will be raised as 'change in personal circumstances.

This doesn't involve changing passport because PCC is already obtained and submitted.

Here is an old thread from Asivad that advises to stick to one address in same country. I think addresses are required for PCC and nothing else!
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/address-history.368819/

There was no need to lie about the addresses in the first place. Regardless of whether the address on the passport was the same or different than the address used in the app, IRCC wouldn't have cared. PCCs cover the entire country, so it doesn't matter if the address use to get it was different than in the app.

You need to properly correct this, as it really is misrepresentation and could end up in not just a refusal but a 5 year ban from Canada.

 

[mt103plus]

There was no need to lie about the addresses in the first place. Regardless of whether the address on the passport was the same or different than the address used in the app, IRCC wouldn't have cared. PCCs cover the entire country, so it doesn't matter if the address use to get it was different than in the app.

You need to properly correct this, as it really is misrepresentation and could end up in not just a refusal but a 5 year ban from Canada.

Thanks - but how can it amount to refusal? There is no material proof that shows my wife living with me. On the contrary, all proof points to her hometown. She even did medicals, affidavit etc. from her hometown.

No way IRCC finds about this - my only concern is that the address history shows we have never lived together and to me, that's little problematic.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Thanks - but how can it amount to refusal? There is no material proof that shows my wife living with me. On the contrary, all proof points to her hometown. She even did medicals, affidavit etc. from her hometown.

No way IRCC finds about this - my only concern is that the address history shows we have never lived together and to me, that's little problematic.

It doesn't matter if you don't have proof. You were required to list where she lived and you gave a false address. You lied, which is fraud. Fraud = refusal and ban.