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hope2018

Champion Member
Mar 14, 2018
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Hello group members.. I have one question regarding reference letter... Since I'm not able to get reference letter I ask as follows:-

I have :-
1. Appointment letter
2. Department's photo ID card detailing my joining date, designation etc.
3. Salary slips
4. Form 16
5. Manual published by deptt. detailing duties and responsibilities of my designation.
6. Other training certificates issued by deptt. from time to time.

Now if I provide all these things, do I still need reference letter, bcz nobody in my deptt. is agreeing to provide reference letter.
Pls advise. Thanks.
Is there no one at all who can provide it? If that is the case then in addition to all that you mentioned above, prepare a LoE stating the same and also attach documentary proof i.e. a mail in which HR/supervisor of your company refused to provide such a letter.
in adddition atleast get company letter with your salary, designation and date of joining if roles and responsibilites cannot be included.

But if that also cannot be provided then you need to mention your situation properly in LoE and then in the end it will all depend on your case officer if it is acceptable or not.
 

Shubhdeep1994

Hero Member
Aug 23, 2017
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Is there no one at all who can provide it? If that is the case then in addition to all that you mentioned above, prepare a LoE stating the same and also attach documentary proof i.e. a mail in which HR/supervisor of your company refused to provide such a letter.
in adddition atleast get company letter with your salary, designation and date of joining if roles and responsibilites cannot be included.

But if that also cannot be provided then you need to mention your situation properly in LoE and then in the end it will all depend on your case officer if it is acceptable or not.
Thanks for replying @hope2018 ..
What if I get a certificate detailing roles and responsibilities and designation only and no other detail like date of joining, salary etc. and get it signed by senior which then will be supported by all other docs like
1. Appointment letter
2. Department's photo ID card detailing my joining date, designation etc.
3. Salary slips
4. Form 16
5. Manual published by deptt. detailing duties and responsibilities of my designation.
6. Other training certificates issued by deptt. from time to time.

Will this be acceptable? Pls advise. Thanks.
 

ContactFront

Champion Member
Feb 22, 2017
2,482
707
Hello,
I am in USA on H1 and my wife on H4 and we are planning to apply for PR under express entry. My daughter was born last year in USA. I want to know if she maintain her US citizenship or if we get Canadian citizenship in future will she also get Canadian citizenship?
Both Canada and US allow dual citizenship so she can retain her US citizenship regardless.
 

hope2018

Champion Member
Mar 14, 2018
1,304
591
Thanks for replying @hope2018 ..
What if I get a certificate detailing roles and responsibilities and designation only and no other detail like date of joining, salary etc. and get it signed by senior which then will be supported by all other docs like
1. Appointment letter
2. Department's photo ID card detailing my joining date, designation etc.
3. Salary slips
4. Form 16
5. Manual published by deptt. detailing duties and responsibilities of my designation.
6. Other training certificates issued by deptt. from time to time.

Will this be acceptable? Pls advise. Thanks.
It would be ideal and recommended if you get in same letter other missing details also. Otherwise for date of joining, salary you can get that from you company. If not possible then prepare a LoE and mention that in lieu of that letter you are providing above mentioned.
 

Shubhdeep1994

Hero Member
Aug 23, 2017
318
12
It would be ideal and recommended if you get in same letter other missing details also. Otherwise for date of joining, salary you can get that from you company. If not possible then prepare a LoE and mention that in lieu of that letter you are providing above mentioned.
Ok.. thanks a lot for helping @hope2018 :)
 

meena

Champion Member
Apr 20, 2009
1,299
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Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0213
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25th June'09
Doc's Request.
18th Sep'09
AOR Received.
22nd Jan'10
Med's Request
7th April
Med's Done....
1st May
Passport Req..
7th April'10
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31st May'10
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Landed on 12th March'11
Hi,
My brother in law applied and sitting with 299 points only, he score 7 bands but planning to give another IELTS exam.. He will turn 45 next year.. Just checking if there are any possibilities that he may get invitation for Express entry and if not what could be other ways to get into Skilled category as he has a very good experience and just waiting to hear something from CIC...

Thanks in advance

Meena
 

hoseinihh

Full Member
May 9, 2018
28
0
Hello,
I have a question regarding the job requirements for a NOC. In job requirements for 0124 Advertising, marketing and public relations managers it says:

Employment requirements
Advertising and public relations managers

  • A university degree ... and Several years of experience in an advertising, public...
I was wondering if this requirement is for all job titles under this NOC? If directors are higher than managers, so it is likely that these requirements are for directors, too. Right?

I have chosen "sales and marketing director" (one of the job titles under this NOC) as my job title in my pre-ITA application. I did not see this experience requirement at that time and I had not have any job experience before my work.

Should I change my NOC in my post-ITA application with an LOE to a different NOC (and different skill type like 1123), which does not require experience? Is changing the skill type from 0 to A problematic?

I really appreciate any help!
Thanks!
 

Ganeshw

Newbie
May 15, 2018
1
0
minutes ago
Hi guys..

I am planning for EE. Just stared for process .. IELTS given in may... now for ECA I have questions..
1 I am having MS from USA and BE from India for which degree I should apply for ECA?? Or need to apply both??
2 My wife is having PhD so which degree she should apply for ECA. PhD? MSc ? BSc? Or all??

Thanks
Ganesh
 

Kuchbhi

Hero Member
Jul 16, 2017
241
103
Hello,
I have a question regarding the job requirements for a NOC. In job requirements for 0124 Advertising, marketing and public relations managers it says:

Employment requirements
Advertising and public relations managers

  • A university degree ... and Several years of experience in an advertising, public...
I was wondering if this requirement is for all job titles under this NOC? If directors are higher than managers, so it is likely that these requirements are for directors, too. Right?

I have chosen "sales and marketing director" (one of the job titles under this NOC) as my job title in my pre-ITA application. I did not see this experience requirement at that time and I had not have any job experience before my work.

Should I change my NOC in my post-ITA application with an LOE to a different NOC (and different skill type like 1123), which does not require experience? Is changing the skill type from 0 to A problematic?

I really appreciate any help!
Thanks!
My understanding is that CIC matches job duties and responsibilities to the NOC code (not the job title). My sister applied with Marketing Manager, and Marketing Executive both against 0124. Titles vary from company to company and are inflated in various industries like banking where every 3rd person is a assistant vice president.
You can change your NOC post ITA in your eAPR. No need to mention this in your LOE. LOE is for covering things in your application eAPR that hasn't been covered elsewhere or situation that you need to provide an explanation.
0 to A is not problematic in my opinion. NOC Class 0,A,B,C,D etc. are used as a filtering criteria in my opinion. For Example Class C and D may be a cook or a mason and not allowed under EE.
This is of course my opinion only I am not an immigration lawyer, others can comment.
 

Kuchbhi

Hero Member
Jul 16, 2017
241
103
minutes ago
Hi guys..

I am planning for EE. Just stared for process .. IELTS given in may... now for ECA I have questions..
1 I am having MS from USA and BE from India for which degree I should apply for ECA?? Or need to apply both??
2 My wife is having PhD so which degree she should apply for ECA. PhD? MSc ? BSc? Or all??

Thanks
Ganesh
I sent all my degrees BE from India and MBA from US. My wife also send all her degrees.
I heard/read some people just sending their Masters for evaluation. But I played it "safe" and sent all my education (Btech/MBA) just because I paid money for it, so might as well get everything evaluated. More bang for the buck :D
 

Kuchbhi

Hero Member
Jul 16, 2017
241
103
Hi, I am going to apply for an ITA, and am in a dilemma regarding Proof of Experience.
I have 1 year 10 months experience in my current org. and 1 year 3 months experience in my previous organization.
However, my previous organization has refused to provide me a proof of experience as required by CIC (they are willing to provide just an experience letter stating duration and position).
Should I input 3 years as my experience (gives me 473 points) or enter 1 or 2 year only (448 points)

Does CIC consider and provide points for 1 year experience, if I enter 3 years and fail to show for full 3 years, but show for 1 year as per their requirement?
1) Ask your previous company that if possible print the job description on a letter head (job duties and responsibilities are the most important aspect as NOC code is matched against them)
2) What I did was that I drafted the letter myself and send those to my company HR. It took not of negotiation and explaining but I got the letter in 1-2 months. You should do the same. Write down a letter and simply ask them to get a printout on a letterhead. Explain to them that no one is going to check it. Worst case scenario they may get a call from CIC to confirm your employment with them - which they shouldn't have a problem
3) CIC will consider 1 year of experience but you get less CRS points. You get maximum points for experience if you can show 3 or more years of experience.
 

chitre.raunak

Star Member
Mar 24, 2012
139
45
New Jersey
NOC Code......
2174
Well, I submitted my application on 8th May and today, 16th May, the application was updated. My UCI number from previous work permit has been allotted. However, my medical reports AND Background check is under review. I have read that the BG check doesn't start unless Medical exam has been cleared. Any thoughts on this?
 
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chitre.raunak

Star Member
Mar 24, 2012
139
45
New Jersey
NOC Code......
2174
Well, I submitted my application on 8th May and today, 16th May, the application was updated. My UCI number from previous work permit has been allotted. However, my medical reports AND Background check is under review. I have read that the BG check doesn't start unless Medical exam has been cleared. Any thoughts on this?
To be clear below is my status. Also, typically "We are processing your Background check" appears later in the process and not in the beginning. Any clarification is most welcome.

Application status We are processing your application. We will send you a message when there is an update or if we need more information from you.
Review of eligibility We are reviewing whether you meet the eligibility requirements.
Review of medical results We are reviewing the results of your medical exam.
Review of additional documents We do not need additional documents.
Interview You do not need an interview. We will send you a message if this changes.
Biometrics We do not need your fingerprints. We will send you a message if this changes.
Background check We are processing your background check. We will send you a message if we need more information.
Final decision Your application is in progress. We will send you a message once the final decision has been made.