Staying in the nominated province

[Innana]

Once a PR, you have the right of Mobility. It's your charter's right. If Government does anything to hinder that process you can take them to court.

Some of you people here really shouldn't advice if you don't know about the subject matter. Nothing triumph the charter rights.

 

[mf4361]

You have all rights to move to another province w/o staying a minute in the province of nomination. But if you do that, it means you misrepresented yourself by signing intent of residing in the province of nomination, which is crime. And don't say that you suddenly didn't like weather or so... People who plan such a big change in their lives (immigration) for sure knows what is the weather in the province of nomination is. I don't see any logic reason to leave the province w/o staying a minute.

Any of those "intend of residing" letter by the province has no legal power. you can try to take it to court and see if it still holds (It won't)

Provinces can put restriction on employment to nominees. As you complete the landing process, you stop being a nominees and become a landed immigrant, which the protection of constitution applies

You can't actually know the climate until you physically present. I can read about Saskatoon -20C winter, I won't know how living with it is like until I am physically here. And you have underestimated the stupidity of humanity. Immigrants are expected to know a little bit of the place they are moving to, but most don't.

 

[Alexios07]

Any of those "intend of residing" letter by the province has no legal power. you can try to take it to court and see if it still holds (It won't)

Provinces can put restriction on employment to nominees. As you complete the landing process, you stop being a nominees and become a landed immigrant, which the protection of constitution applies

That's true. Once you have your passport stamped, you can go wherever you go. As you said, it's completely legal to do so.

However, it's still an immoral action, as you deliberately cheat and lie to the province and Canada to get your way in.

It's bad faith to begin your new life in Canada with a lie, don't you think?

 

[mf4361]

That's true. Once you have your passport stamped, you can go wherever you go. As you said, it's completely legal to do so.

However, it's still an immoral action, as you deliberately cheat and lie to the province and Canada to get your way in.

It's bad faith to begin your new life in Canada with a lie, don't you think?

I don't judge people's moral here (I save it for elsewhere). I only state what is legal and what is not.

 

[Innana]

That's true. Once you have your passport stamped, you can go wherever you go. As you said, it's completely legal to do so.

However, it's still an immoral action, as you deliberately cheat and lie to the province and Canada to get your way in.

It's bad faith to begin your new life in Canada with a lie, don't you think?

Get off that high horse of yours buddy. He asked a legal question, leave morality or whatever it is you're trying to troll out of this discussion.

 

[Alexios07]

Get off that high horse of yours buddy. He asked a legal question, leave morality or whatever it is you're trying to troll out of this discussion.

Sorry pal, I'm not trying to be pretentious. You are just using a loophole to cheat the country for your own economic gains.

If you have no intention to reside in the province that nominates you, then GTFO. It's called Provincial Nomination Program for a reason.

 

[Innana]

Sorry pal, I'm not trying to be pretentious. You are just using a loophole to cheat the country for your own economic gains.

If you have no intention to reside in the province that nominates you, then GTFO. It's called Provincial Nomination Program for a reason.

Seems like I need to use your own language since you don't seem to comprehend anything. I'm nominated from the province I've been living in for 12 year and plan to stay here for as long as I can. So up yours in that regard pal.

If anyone wants to move from the province they live in because they found a better job elsewhere, or got married to someone who lives in another province or they simple want to go to another city because the weather is better there, it's their choice, and according to the charter, it's their right. PNP has not and is not bounding anyone to their respected province, legally or otherwise.

So politely, piss off.

 

[Alexios07]

Seems like I need to use your own language since you don't seem to comprehend anything. I'm nominated from the province I've been living in for 12 year and plan to stay here for as long as I can. So up yours in that regard pal.

If anyone wants to move from the province they live in because they found a better job elsewhere, or got married to someone who lives in another province or they simple want to go to another city because the weather is better there, it's their choice, and according to the charter, it's their right. PNP has not and is not bounding anyone to their respected province, legally or otherwise.

So politely, piss off.

Well, then thank you for your contribution to Canada and your province.

I'm not talking specifically about you or your case. I'm talking about the people who keep asking if they can move RIGHT WAY to another province (usually BC or Ontario) after they get PR status at POE in nominating provinces. Like I said, if you have settled in the nominating province, and have tried your best to find a job and not succeeded. Then, by all means, you can move to another province for better opportunities.

I just can't stand people who keep applying in the PNPs of those poor Atlantic provinces (NB, PEI and NS). They are indirectly damaging the Canadian economy.

 

[Hansdza]

That is why PNP program should be eliminated, especially those with high rate of immigrant who moved to another province after they get their PR status. The answer is firm, there's no legal obligation to stay in nominating province once you get your PR.

Moral obligation and stuff like that cannot be imposed to anyone. It's a voluntarily compliance not mandatory. We are all immigrants here, if we can (and willing) to help future immigrants like us, it is better to stay in the nominating province so they will perceive the program as successful and continue for foreseeable future. Having said that, nobody can force you to do that, but hey.. we are Canadian now and this is our country, if we can do good things here for the sake of other people, why not? remember, we were in the same shoes with those potential immigrants who want to be a Canadian PR through PNP route.

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

I have already mentioned this a number of times -

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/thank-you-asivad-anac-t309073.0.html;msg5117759#msg5117759

Using PNP as a backdoor is not illegal(once you are accepted as a PR) but immoral! Sadly, we cannot impose moral restrictions on others - people choose if they want to stay or not! However, IMHO, just ditching the province without even trying to establish him/herself is devilish and unethical. That's plain lying and misrepresentation!

 

[mf4361]

Well, then thank you for your contribution to Canada and your province.

I'm not talking specifically about you or your case. I'm talking about the people who keep asking if they can move RIGHT WAY to another province (usually BC or Ontario) after they get PR status at POE in nominating provinces. Like I said, if you have settled in the nominating province, and have tried your best to find a job and not succeeded. Then, by all means, you can move to another province for better opportunities.

I just can't stand people who keep applying in the PNPs of those poor Atlantic provinces (NB, PEI and NS). They are indirectly damaging the Canadian economy.

Ordinary people always do what's best interest for themselves. It is not the applicants fault if we followed all the rules. It's the governments' fault on creating easily exploited loopholes in their policies (On the other hand, policies that directly restricts right of mobility violates the constitution, which they can't do either)

 

[Alexios07]

Ordinary people always do what's best interest for themselves. It is not the applicants fault if we followed all the rules. It's the governments' fault on creating easily exploited loopholes in their policies (On the other hand, policies that directly restricts right of mobility violates the constitution, which they can't do either)

Only partially true. Ordinary people from poor countries usually do whatever to get the best benefits for themselves without considering the benefits of the community and the nation.

That's why we have many Asian countries with millions of talented people but they keep remaining poor. The Western nations can thrive so much and so fast because the majority of their people are law-abiding citizens. They respect the law regardless of when and where, and they are not actively trying to find loophole in the justice system to gain benefit.

I'm immigrating to Canada to live in a modern society with modern and educated people. I'm not moving here to be surrounded by the same kind of people in my country where everyone is for himself.

Yes, legally you guys don't need to spend a single day in your nominating province once you got the PR at the PoE. But deep down you all know that you purposely cheat your hosting country and the nominating province. There's a reason why PEI, NB or Manitoba accept you but not BC or Ontario.

 

[mf4361]

Only partially true. Ordinary people from poor countries usually do whatever to get the best benefits for themselves without considering the benefits of the community and the nation.

That's why we have many Asian countries with millions of talented people but they keep remaining poor. The Western nations can thrive so much and so fast because the majority of their people are law-abiding citizens. They respect the law regardless of when and where, and they are not actively trying to find loophole in the justice system to gain benefit.

I'm immigrating to Canada to live in a modern society with modern and educated people. I'm not moving here to be surrounded by the same kind of people in my country where everyone is for himself.

Yes, legally you guys don't need to spend a single day in your nominating province once you got the PR at the PoE. But deep down you all know that you purposely cheat your hosting country and the nominating province. There's a reason why PEI, NB or Manitoba accept you but not BC or Ontario.

If you want to criticize on others while standing on a moral high ground, it's your freedom too

I am only here to debunk the "2 year in your province" baloney

 

[Alexios07]

If you want to criticize on others while standing on a moral high ground, it's your freedom too

I am only here to debunk the "2 year in your province" baloney

It's absolutely nothing pretentious here, just pure practical thinking.

It's the same thing as if you want to keep your good paying job, then don't steal from your company. If you want your neighborhood clean, then don't defecate on the street.

If you are leaving your shithole corrupt and polluted country and come here for a better life, then try to live as the native Canadians here. You know, for our own good. Try to see further then your nose once.

 

[abdulqayyum]

Hi guys,
what if the case on had real intention to live in the province, tried best to find job there and used all community facilitated means of getting a job and nothing worked out, had house lease agreement, kids were going school, on finding at relevant jot to his NOC he moved to other province after 6 month stay in nominated province.
Would there be any implication at the time of filing citizenship?