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Newly married wife, 2nd try for her getting Visitor Visa Q's

canuck_in_uk

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Ok so I will definitely do the TRV for now, family class can wait for the moment.

I still have these questions for the TRV:
  1. Should I write the invitation letter or should my sister (who we will stay with in Canada) write it?
  2. Should I mention that she will do the Family Class immigration in approx 2 years time? as we are established here in China, I still have 2 years left on my contract. I am in a technology industry that here that Canada is not as developed as China, thus needing to gain more experience here first.
  3. When applying online for the visa, should I use my own email address, or hers? Or does it matter? It will be using my Canadian online banking as the secure token, so just checking.
2. Do not mention sponsorship.
 

lchazl

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Yes, I would recommend that you include evidence (in her application, of course) for your work contract + a leave approval letter from your employer + any critical work commitments that you must return to after the intended visit + your bank statements (to confirm salary transfers), etc



Is it possible for her to register for the conference before she applies for a TRV?
When do you intend to visit? Hopefully, you are not applying too much in advance



Do include the car ownership documents + repayment statement.

Also, do include any other evidence:
Rent agreement, 2-3 recent rent receipts, highlight the bank transactions on the bank statement + if her family is financially dependent on her + any personal/family commitments that she must return to after her visit (evidence is required)



Do include evidence of enrollment + tuition fee receipt + exam fee receipt and exam schedule, etc.

If this is an online program, it won't really help much as a tie to return to.



Does she have credit cards (even if her bank balance is more than adequate to cover the visit)?



Just 3-4 pictures would suffice + your marriage certificate



From your sister + copy of her passport + her financials (if she would like to provide those, it is not mandatory for the host to give these documents)



You can mention you don't intend to apply for spousal PR just yet. Do be careful about how you word this from a long-term perspective keeping in mind her PR application later.

You can also include a small explanation/evidence on the monetary/career benefits that you are hoping to achieve by staying in China for the next two years + something similar for her career



It does not matter
Ok thanks for the info, after the Chinese New Year we will write the letter and show it to you all to see. And true, it might be too early to apply, we will weigh that as well.
 

lchazl

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Ok so I'm getting ready to submit the docs, some more questions:
  1. Visa App IMM5257 2b and 2c asking if she has been refused a visa: Yes. 2c: "Have you previously applied to enter or remain in Canada?" Yes, I guess? Why would they need to ask that question in 2 different ways?
  2. For the reason why I have put: "Jun 2017 applied TRV, refused: lack of funds, travel history. Now we are married Dec 2017 ([name], Canadian citizen), have traveled more since then (Japan, Hong Kong) and have sufficient funds." Is this proper to put?
  3. "Proof of Relationship" - we are putting in our marriage cert but do we also need to put proof of her and my sister (inviter)? They have pictures together. Or does this go in the "Client Information" section?
  4. If she has a credit card, will that help her prove her ties to China?
 

Bryanna

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Visa App IMM5257 2b and 2c asking if she has been refused a visa: Yes. 2c: "Have you previously applied to enter or remain in Canada?" Yes, I guess? Why would they need to ask that question in 2 different ways?
Yes to both questions


For the reason why I have put: "Jun 2017 applied TRV, refused: lack of funds, travel history. Now we are married Dec 2017 ([name], Canadian citizen), have traveled more since then (Japan, Hong Kong) and have sufficient funds." Is this proper to put?
She must answer only about the previous refusal for that question.

Hopefully, you've prepared a cover letter that has a sort of summary of her application/ refusal/purpose of visit/ strong ties/ finances/ travel history, etc


"Proof of Relationship" - we are putting in our marriage cert but do we also need to put proof of her and my sister (inviter)? They have pictures together. Or does this go in the "Client Information" section?
Proof of her relationship to your sister would be through the marriage certificate (indirectly)


If she has a credit card, will that help her prove her ties to China?
Not really. It only establishes that she is credit worthy
 

lchazl

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Yes to both questions



She must answer only about the previous refusal for that question.

Hopefully, you've prepared a cover letter that has a sort of summary of her application/ refusal/purpose of visit/ strong ties/ finances/ travel history, etc



Proof of her relationship to your sister would be through the marriage certificate (indirectly)



Not really. It only establishes that she is credit worthy

Ok thanks Bryanna. Yes we are doing the cover letter now putting in all those things you mentioned: application/ refusal/purpose of visit/ strong ties/ finances/ travel history, etc plus my proof of working and living here, needing to get back to work, thus indirectly strengthening her ties to China.

I will post the letter once done in a day or 2.
 

lchazl

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2 more questions:
  1. When doing our travel itinerary, we will be staying with my parents for about 5 days. Do I also need a letter from them and proof of residence, finances etc. in addition to my sister's (which I would say is the principal residence for time of stay)?
  2. To prove my ties to China (thus proving her ties), I got a copy of our electric bill with my name on it. I have a rental contract but it expires April 19. I feel putting this is fishy as it will expire soon. Is it necessary to show with an explanation that I plan to renew or not include with the electric bill being good enough? I will include my work contract (til 2020), and employment letter.
 
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lchazl

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Hi all, (especially @Bryanna I used some of the things you said in your other posts) here are the 2 letters from my wife and I that will be included at the end of the online application.


HER LETTER


Dear Visa Officer:

I am writing this letter to clarify my application.

Background
  • Last year I had applied for a TRV as I wanted to visit [his] (boyfriend at the time, now husband) family and was refused.
  • Since then we have married.
  • His parents and sister have visited us here.
Current
  • I am applying again to come in the Summer with [him] to have a wedding dinners in Vancouver and Victoria for the family that couldn’t come to China in January.
New situation/changes
  • Reasons given for last year’s TRV refusal with new changes/updates:
    • Travel history
      • Traveled to Japan and Hong Kong.
      • Proof: Visas and boarding passes
    • Financials
      • Have CAD$20,000 in bank account plus spousal support.
      • Proof: Bank statement
    • Employment
      • Employed for over one year at current position.
      • Proof: Employment letter
    • Purpose of Visit
      • Have wedding dinners in Vancouver and Victoria with my husband and in-laws.
      • Proof: Marriage certificate
I feel that my situation has changed substantially since last year and ask you consider these factors.

Host details
  • We will stay with Stephanie Bird, Charles’ sister who lives in Port Coquitlam, BC. and Michael and Bernadette Bird, his parents in Victoria, BC.
  • They have both authorized our stay in their letters in this application.
Reasons to return to China
  • Education
    • I am enrolled in distance education at [uni name] and have exams coming up in the Fall that I must get back to.
    • Proof: Enrollment status
  • Employment
    • My employer is expecting me back to work on August 10.
    • Proof: Employment letter
  • Husband’s employment
    • My husband, [name], has signed a 3-year contract, has only completed one year so far and must return to Shenzhen at the same time (above).
    • Proof: Work permit, contract, employment letter
  • Vehicle ownership
    • A motor vehicle is registered in my name.
    • Proof: Vehicle registration
  • Flight to Paris, France in September
    • Will be traveling to France and Italy, departing from Hong Kong.
    • Proof: Booked flight tickets
I respectfully ask that you grant me a tourist visa to Canada so we can partake in our planned wedding dinners in Vancouver and Victoria.



MY LETTER

Dear Visa Officer,

This is [name], the husband of [her]. We plan to go to Canada in the summer to see family and friends and have a small wedding dinner in Vancouver and Victoria to celebrate with the people that couldn’t be there in China for the ceremony.

Financials:
  • I will take care of necessary expenses for the trip.
  • Proof: Bank statement
Current situation:
  • We live together in Shenzhen renting an apartment.
  • We both have careers here, I have just completed Year 1 of my 3 year contract.
Future:
  • We plan to live in Shenzhen until my contract expires in April 2020, and then consider our move to Canada to start a family.
  • My employment situation in Shenzhen is very stable and the job opportunities here allow for a better path to career development as compared to Canada thus my wanting to remain in China for the short to medium term.
I respectfully ask for you to grant a visa for [her] to see Canada.

Below is documented proof of my living in Shenzhen:
  1. Employment contract in Shenzhen
  2. Employment confirmation and leave allowance
  3. Passport and Work visa
  4. Electric bill with translation
  5. Bank statement showing income.
[end]

How do these sound? Sorry for the length!
 

lchazl

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Ok so just an update, got the approval after 20 days of submission. It said on the site 9 days average, but after waiting 16 days I submitted an online inquiry what's taking so long.then a few days later, got the approval to send in the passport.

Thanks everyone for their help!
 

lchazl

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Final question, it wasn't clear if they will send a physical copy of the letter or do I just print off the PDF?
 

Bryanna

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Ok so just an update, got the approval after 20 days of submission. It said on the site 9 days average, but after waiting 16 days I submitted an online inquiry what's taking so long.then a few days later, got the approval to send in the passport.

Thanks everyone for their help!
That's fantastic. Congrats :)


Final question, it wasn't clear if they will send a physical copy of the letter or do I just print off the PDF?
No physical copy. You must print off the PDF
 

lchazl

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Jan 31, 2018
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Just a final note for people wondering, got the passport back today, it was a multiple entry, granted for the full validity of her passport.
 
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