GCMS

[razerblade]

Did you triage occur before paper transfer? Besides triage, do you see anything under refusal ground section?
Mine also shows Triage 1, and an entry of refusal ground as below:
Created Date: 2014/06/14 09:38:22
Created By: SADMIN
Updated Date: 2014/11/14 19:43:13
Updated By: SADMIN
Article Of The Act: [empty]
Article Description: [empty]

It's very weird that it was created and updated long before my application sent...

Perhaps, @dpenabill may have more insights on this.

 

[sansnom]

Perhaps, @dpenabill may have more insights on this.

Thank you both, razerblade and dpenabill

I applied citizenship on Oct 11th, 2017.
My GCMS notes shows a TRIAGE was created 2 days before paper file transfer. No information about the triage was shown.
HOWEVER, a REFUSAL GROUND entry appeared in Finalize Application section.
Created Date: 2014/06/14 09:38:22
Created By: SADMIN
Updated Date: 2014/11/14 19:43:13
Updated By: SADMIN
Article Of The Act: [empty]
Article Description: [empty]

The ASSESSMENTS section is like below:
Knowledge: Not Started
Residence: Not Started
Language: Not Started
Prohibition: Not Started
Security: [empty]
Criminality: Passed


I am quite confused and concerned. How could I get such a refusal ground long before my application date? Especially the assessments are either not started or passed.

 

[winpro]

Did you triage occur before paper transfer? Besides triage, do you see anything under refusal ground section?
Mine also shows Triage 1, and an entry of refusal ground as below:
Created Date: 2014/06/14 09:38:22
Created By: SADMIN
Updated Date: 2014/11/14 19:43:13
Updated By: SADMIN
Article Of The Act: [empty]
Article Description: [empty]

It's very weird that it was created and updated long before my application sent...

Yes, yes.
Check the inbox.

 

[sansnom]

Yes, yes.
Check the inbox.

Sigh... I hope they didn't mix my profile with others...

 

[0ntarian]

Sigh... I hope they didn't mix my profile with others...

Did your GCMS notes shows some thing related to test invite pending clearance tagged?

 

[FloydCan]

Sigh... I hope they didn't mix my profile with others...

Reading from one of your other posts

QUOTE="sansnom, post: 6710579, member: 658683"]I recently engaged with my fiancée (Chinese citizen, Australian PR) and we are planning a wedding overseas in August. I'd like invite her to visit Canada before the wedding (June - August) to see my parents and friends. As the fiancé(e) class has long been abolished, it seems the visitor visa is the only option.
Our situations are little bit complex as my fiancée does not work and hence I will cover all her expenses.

I wonder if we have to convince the visa officer that she does not have intention to stay in Canada permanently? (She actually does not intend to migrate to Canada for real). If we have to, what kind of evidence do you guys suggest? Would holding a real estate and PR status in Australia be enough?[/QUOTE]

Did you apply under the old rule? It's possible that if you did actually make an effort proving she won't stay here, they might have caught up onto that and considered it as no intent to reside. Of course this is pure speculation on my part.

 

[dpenabill]

Thank you both, razerblade and dpenabill

I applied citizenship on Oct 11th, 2017.
My GCMS notes shows a TRIAGE was created 2 days before paper file transfer. No information about the triage was shown.
HOWEVER, a REFUSAL GROUND entry appeared in Finalize Application section.
Created Date: 2014/06/14 09:38:22
Created By: SADMIN
Updated Date: 2014/11/14 19:43:13
Updated By: SADMIN
Article Of The Act: [empty]
Article Description: [empty]

The ASSESSMENTS section is like below:
Knowledge: Not Started
Residence: Not Started
Language: Not Started
Prohibition: Not Started
Security: [empty]
Criminality: Passed


I am quite confused and concerned. How could I get such a refusal ground long before my application date? Especially the assessments are either not started or passed.

To be clear, I am NO expert, I rarely discuss GCMS reports issued in response to ATIP requests, and I have made little effort to be informed about the details in these reports.

This is for a reason: these reports are overwhelmingly a waste of effort and time. They rarely provide any information which an applicant cannot figure out for himself otherwise, and even more rarely provide any information an applicant can actually use in making decisions about what to do next.

For those who have applied since the change in law in October, these requests are not only a waste of personal effort and time, they are an excessive and unwarranted burden on the system and will almost certainly contribute to compromising how well and timely IRCC is able to process the huge number of applications which have streamed into CPC-Sydney since October 11, 2017 (probably near or in excess of 100,000 new applications, with many more to come).

Please spread the message to applicants to exercise some PATIENCE.



Yes, of course, there are occasions when it is prudent for a citizenship applicant to make an ATIP request.

I do not intend to go into why and when it is prudent to make an ATIP request. I will say that if it is indeed a situation in which it would be wise to make the request, that usually calls for a CUSTOMIZED ATIP application, which requires doing a lot of homework in order to craft the request in a way which is more likely to obtain relevant, useful information. The standard copy of a GCMS report is almost always useless, uninformative and useless. (There are some exceptions; for example, if an application has not had any action on it for more than a year, the ATIP request for the standard GCMS report may trigger action or reveal a problem; a telephone call to the IRCC help centre, however, may work just as well.)

I am quite confused and concerned. How could I get such a refusal ground long before my application date? Especially the assessments are either not started or passed.

If your application is in fact being refused, you will soon receive correspondence from IRCC regarding this and the reasons. No need to have made an ATIP application to learn this.

I suspect you are not correctly interpreting the report. As others have noted, these reports are rife with boilerplate information and also with default codes. Odds are this entry does not mean what you are interpreting it to mean.

In particular, unless you know of a reason why the application might be refused, the odds are you have misinterpreted what this part of the report means. That is the thing, YOU know your case. YOU know all the relevant facts. YOU know the contents of your application. YOU should know more about what could possibly be an issue in your case than anyone else and far more so than what would be indicated in the GCMS notes.

So I wonder why you have made this request so early in the process. Generally there is no reason for an ATIP request relative to a citizenship application for at least a full year after applying. Exceptions are few, but sure there are some, most of which involve a situation or particular issue the applicant is aware of or should be aware of.

This forum has gone totally crazy in watching for incremental steps in the process. Some applicants will see a fast time line. Some perhaps barely four to six months from date of application to the oath. Others will suffer a much slower timeline. Four months to AOR perhaps. Longer to IP status. Up to a year to be invited to the interview and test. THERE IS VIRTUALLY NOTHING AN APPLICANT CAN DO WHICH WILL ACCELERATE HIS OR HER TIMELINE.

There is a lot an applicant can do to cause issues and non-routine processing, to trigger delays and a longer timeline. But virtually nothing which will accelerate the timeline. Some will go fast. Some will go slow. Most will be somewhere in between. Some will be very slow.

In the meantime, again please spread the word: exercise some patience. Sure, no AOR in five or more months, start making inquiries. Pay little or no attention to how long it is taking for an application to show the IP date or test/interview invitation (pay attention to notices of course, just not be bogged down in comparing timelines), unless you are approaching a year since applying. Really. There are almost certainly a 100,000 of you with applications in the hopper now. It is very likely that a lot of you will NOT be scheduled for the test for many months to come.

In the meantime, remember that many have real questions to ask the call centre agents, questions for which they need an answer in order to make an actual decision. But scores of them are having a difficult time getting through, in significant part because so many others are calling unnecessarily, calling to ask about IP status or what local office is processing their application or when can they expect to be scheduled for the test. In the meantime recognize that many tens of thousands of new applications are going through CPC-Sydney and that ATIP requests demand allocation of substantial IRCC resources which could be, depending on the volume of requests, better allocated to routine processing tasks.

Do each other a favour. Relax. Exercise some patience. Let IRCC deal with the influx of tens of thousands of applications. Do not unnecessarily increase the burden. Did I say exercise some patience? Yes, but it warrants repeating and emphasizing.

 

[0ntarian]

Thank you dpenabill for explanation and your advice!

Hi, Could any one explain below note shown in GCMS notes;
"Test Pending Clearance Tagged"

 

[jsm0085]

Thank you both, razerblade and dpenabill

I applied citizenship on Oct 11th, 2017.
My GCMS notes shows a TRIAGE was created 2 days before paper file transfer. No information about the triage was shown.
HOWEVER, a REFUSAL GROUND entry appeared in Finalize Application section.
Created Date: 2014/06/14 09:38:22
Created By: SADMIN
Updated Date: 2014/11/14 19:43:13
Updated By: SADMIN
Article Of The Act: [empty]
Article Description: [empty]

The ASSESSMENTS section is like below:
Knowledge: Not Started
Residence: Not Started
Language: Not Started
Prohibition: Not Started
Security: [empty]
Criminality: Passed


I am quite confused and concerned. How could I get such a refusal ground long before my application date? Especially the assessments are either not started or passed.

This is standard and nothing to worry about. It’s congaindd within all notes.

Look through all sections for a “due date”. This is roughly when you should expect some movement on your application - depending on its status.

 

[sansnom]

Reading from one of your other posts
Did you apply under the old rule? It's possible that if you did actually make an effort proving she won't stay here, they might have caught up onto that and considered it as no intent to reside. Of course this is pure speculation on my part.

I applied under the new rule, which intent to reside doesn't apply anymore. I don't know what to say on her TRV application, I'm still in progress convincing my fiancée moving to Canada while she is in progress convincing me moving to Australia, loool. That's why I say she doesn't want to migrate to Canada for real...

 

[aaamr]

I applied under the new rule, which intent to reside doesn't apply anymore. I don't know what to say on her TRV application, I'm still in progress convincing my fiancée moving to Canada while she is in progress convincing me moving to Australia, loool. That's why I say she doesn't want to migrate to Canada for real...

The weather in Australia is better. LOL



A.

 

[sansnom]

To be clear, I am NO expert, I rarely discuss GCMS reports issued in response to ATIP requests, and I have made little effort to be informed about the details in these reports.

This is for a reason: these reports are overwhelmingly a waste of effort and time. They rarely provide any information which an applicant cannot figure out for himself otherwise, and even more rarely provide any information an applicant can actually use in making decisions about what to do next.

For those who have applied since the change in law in October, these requests are not only a waste of personal effort and time, they are an excessive and unwarranted burden on the system and will almost certainly contribute to compromising how well and timely IRCC is able to process the huge number of applications which have streamed into CPC-Sydney since October 11, 2017 (probably near or in excess of 100,000 new applications, with many more to come).

Please spread the message to applicants to exercise some PATIENCE.



Yes, of course, there are occasions when it is prudent for a citizenship applicant to make an ATIP request.

I do not intend to go into why and when it is prudent to make an ATIP request. I will say that if it is indeed a situation in which it would be wise to make the request, that usually calls for a CUSTOMIZED ATIP application, which requires doing a lot of homework in order to craft the request in a way which is more likely to obtain relevant, useful information. The standard copy of a GCMS report is almost always useless, uninformative and useless. (There are some exceptions; for example, if an application has not had any action on it for more than a year, the ATIP request for the standard GCMS report may trigger action or reveal a problem; a telephone call to the IRCC help centre, however, may work just as well.)





If your application is in fact being refused, you will soon receive correspondence from IRCC regarding this and the reasons. No need to have made an ATIP application to learn this.

I suspect you are not correctly interpreting the report. As others have noted, these reports are rife with boilerplate information and also with default codes. Odds are this entry does not mean what you are interpreting it to mean.

In particular, unless you know of a reason why the application might be refused, the odds are you have misinterpreted what this part of the report means. That is the thing, YOU know your case. YOU know all the relevant facts. YOU know the contents of your application. YOU should know more about what could possibly be an issue in your case than anyone else and far more so than what would be indicated in the GCMS notes.

So I wonder why you have made this request so early in the process. Generally there is no reason for an ATIP request relative to a citizenship application for at least a full year after applying. Exceptions are few, but sure there are some, most of which involve a situation or particular issue the applicant is aware of or should be aware of.

This forum has gone totally crazy in watching for incremental steps in the process. Some applicants will see a fast time line. Some perhaps barely four to six months from date of application to the oath. Others will suffer a much slower timeline. Four months to AOR perhaps. Longer to IP status. Up to a year to be invited to the interview and test. THERE IS VIRTUALLY NOTHING AN APPLICANT CAN DO WHICH WILL ACCELERATE HIS OR HER TIMELINE.

There is a lot an applicant can do to cause issues and non-routine processing, to trigger delays and a longer timeline. But virtually nothing which will accelerate the timeline. Some will go fast. Some will go slow. Most will be somewhere in between. Some will be very slow.

In the meantime, again please spread the word: exercise some patience. Sure, no AOR in five or more months, start making inquiries. Pay little or no attention to how long it is taking for an application to show the IP date or test/interview invitation (pay attention to notices of course, just not be bogged down in comparing timelines), unless you are approaching a year since applying. Really. There are almost certainly a 100,000 of you with applications in the hopper now. It is very likely that a lot of you will NOT be scheduled for the test for many months to come.

In the meantime, remember that many have real questions to ask the call centre agents, questions for which they need an answer in order to make an actual decision. But scores of them are having a difficult time getting through, in significant part because so many others are calling unnecessarily, calling to ask about IP status or what local office is processing their application or when can they expect to be scheduled for the test. In the meantime recognize that many tens of thousands of new applications are going through CPC-Sydney and that ATIP requests demand allocation of substantial IRCC resources which could be, depending on the volume of requests, better allocated to routine processing tasks.

Do each other a favour. Relax. Exercise some patience. Let IRCC deal with the influx of tens of thousands of applications. Do not unnecessarily increase the burden. Did I say exercise some patience? Yes, but it warrants repeating and emphasizing.

Thank you for the valuable information. It's such a relief for me.

 

[sansnom]

The weather in Australia is better. LOL



A.

Sounds like an alt of my fiancée
I wish I could live in both countries and spend half year each lool

 

[aaamr]

Sounds like an alt of my fiancée
I wish I could live in both countries and spend half year each lool

Now that sounds perfect.... your life would be perpetual summer.

A.

 

[gopr]

I have a question after I spoke to IRCC Customer Service today.
I was sent a Fingerprint request on Jan 29 and completed it Feb 1. By Feb 8, as per CIC call center confirmed that they got the results from RCMP (no issues here).

The agent mentioned these today:
Security Checks - Complete
Criminal Checks - In progress
Background Check - will be set to complete after criminal checks are finished.

My app was received on Oct 17, 2017 and IP - since Jan 14, processed at Vancouver office.

I am actually wondering what exactly they check in Criminality? I dont have a common name or anything - I just have one name(no last name, only first name), not much travel history - USA, Western Europe, Mexico.

The agent was certain that they will send test invite after criminality is set to passed.

If anyone can help me understand about this criminality check, I will be grateful. Thanks