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Ray of Hope - 84th Draw

Sandeep198511

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I can get this going for 400 and above CRS range, however with 2750 - 3000 invitation/ biweekly draw it was a moot point going below 430 in this tracker. I am eagerly waiting to see CIC go with a bigger ITA or more frequent draws....Unless that happens, we are not going to see ITA for people below 430 in the near future...However, these are pure speculation from my end and nobody here needs to lose hope.....
Your speculation is wrong and it will go down it may take time but it will go below 430
 

Varunaimar

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I have created myself and got 435 thru crs...but as i heard thru fsw we get relative 5 points...currently i dint get it thru crs...can i increase points by addin relatives somehow...i dnt know the diff between fsw n thru crs actually ...i thought its same
Only siblings get CRS points on your EE profile.
By the way, while creating the profile, which program did you choose? It gives you the option of FSW, CEC and FSTW
 

Karthick_88

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Few of us pointing that number of people joining at 430+ are increasing always and number of people improving their score to 450+ also on the rise thus the CRS will not go near to the last year Lows. I have written about this on Ray of Hope 81, let me tell you again my view.

If the pool was always getting populated then the total number between 430 to 440 would have been very high by now! You are not considering dynamic behavior of Express Entry pool. As new people entering the pool, many profiles also getting excluded & down graded (expired profile, expired language test, age increase, withdrawn application etc.). So pool composition at 10 points ranges between 400 to 430 are quite similar last many weeks. 430 to 440 also pretty much same since last November. It will take only couple of back to back draws to flush out these people.

Now come to the mater that people with high score, 440+ are eating up ITAs thus cutoff is not going down. It is very unlikely that number of fresh applicants with CRS 440+ within two weeks can be as high as 3000. Then how come it is increasing? Obviously candidates from lower ranges improving their 1st language abilities and also adding 2nd language and higher education. They are also spending extra money to add spouse education and language result. Evidence of that is the 83rd draw where tie breaker rule applied to candidate who created profile back in May, 2017. Obviously that candidate had lesser points at the beginning and crawled his way up to 440+ range.

We all know these processes of improving CRS score are expensive and demand extra effort and time! Then why do people do this? Because immigration systems all over the world are quite unpredictable and IRCC is no different. People are scared what if IRCC brings a change and makes it difficult, what if they stop taking people, so much uncertainty in people's mind. When IRCC started to reduce the number of ITAs, people got more anxious and started to put their highest possible effort to increase their score, and that contributed CRS cutoff go to above 450 at the end part of last year. Naturally every one wants to get ahead of others, no matter what it takes.

In 2018 IRCC need to conduct regular biweekly draws and invite 3000+ folks every time if they want to achieve the target and we already have seen the increase of ITAs from 2750 to 3000, I am sure it will surge to record number very soon. Once they start inviting more folks, downward pressure on CRS cutoff will mount. When CRS cutoff will start to show signs of getting down, people will be much relaxed and happy to wait for their turn. Then the upper ranges will not fill up as it is filling up now and cutoff will go more down. In between back to back draws will do a lot of magic too! Two back to back draws with 3500+ ITAs will clear more than 7000 folks within 7 days! I don't think many people will be bothered to go through the hassle of retaking IELTS for CLB 9 band or learn french when they will see ITAs coming down to them very soon.

I am sure we are going to witness similar scenario like last year in upcoming months when CRS may go to record low and ITA number to record high of 4000.

Good Luck to everyone, May the Ray of Hope always shine bright!
Very well summarised and realistic
 
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Titanium

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Few of us pointing that number of people joining at 430+ are increasing always and number of people improving their score to 450+ also on the rise thus the CRS will not go near to the last year Lows. I have written about this on Ray of Hope 81, let me tell you again my view.

If the pool was always getting populated then the total number between 430 to 440 would have been very high by now! You are not considering dynamic behavior of Express Entry pool. As new people entering the pool, many profiles also getting excluded & down graded (expired profile, expired language test, age increase, withdrawn application etc.). So pool composition at 10 points ranges between 400 to 430 are quite similar last many weeks. 430 to 440 also pretty much same since last November. It will take only couple of back to back draws to flush out these people.

Now come to the mater that people with high score, 440+ are eating up ITAs thus cutoff is not going down. It is very unlikely that number of fresh applicants with CRS 440+ within two weeks can be as high as 3000. Then how come it is increasing? Obviously candidates from lower ranges improving their 1st language abilities and also adding 2nd language and higher education. They are also spending extra money to add spouse education and language result. Evidence of that is the 83rd draw where tie breaker rule applied to candidate who created profile back in May, 2017. Obviously that candidate had lesser points at the beginning and crawled his way up to 440+ range.

We all know these processes of improving CRS score are expensive and demand extra effort and time! Then why do people do this? Because immigration systems all over the world are quite unpredictable and IRCC is no different. People are scared what if IRCC brings a change and makes it difficult, what if they stop taking people, so much uncertainty in people's mind. When IRCC started to reduce the number of ITAs, people got more anxious and started to put their highest possible effort to increase their score, and that contributed CRS cutoff go to above 450 at the end part of last year. Naturally every one wants to get ahead of others, no matter what it takes.

In 2018 IRCC need to conduct regular biweekly draws and invite 3000+ folks every time if they want to achieve the target and we already have seen the increase of ITAs from 2750 to 3000, I am sure it will surge to record number very soon. Once they start inviting more folks, downward pressure on CRS cutoff will mount. When CRS cutoff will start to show signs of getting down, people will be much relaxed and happy to wait for their turn. Then the upper ranges will not fill up as it is filling up now and cutoff will go more down. In between back to back draws will do a lot of magic too! Two back to back draws with 3500+ ITAs will clear more than 7000 folks within 7 days! I don't think many people will be bothered to go through the hassle of retaking IELTS for CLB 9 band or learn french when they will see ITAs coming down to them very soon.

I am sure we are going to witness similar scenario like last year in upcoming months when CRS may go to record low and ITA number to record high of 4000.

Good Luck to everyone, May the Ray of Hope always shine bright!
Thankyou for the detailed perspective, definitely positive.
 
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Midnight Blessing

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Few of us pointing that number of people joining at 430+ are increasing always and number of people improving their score to 450+ also on the rise thus the CRS will not go near to the last year Lows. I have written about this on Ray of Hope 81, let me tell you again my view.

If the pool was always getting populated then the total number between 430 to 440 would have been very high by now! You are not considering dynamic behavior of Express Entry pool. As new people entering the pool, many profiles also getting excluded & down graded (expired profile, expired language test, age increase, withdrawn application etc.). So pool composition at 10 points ranges between 400 to 430 are quite similar last many weeks. 430 to 440 also pretty much same since last November. It will take only couple of back to back draws to flush out these people.

Now come to the mater that people with high score, 440+ are eating up ITAs thus cutoff is not going down. It is very unlikely that number of fresh applicants with CRS 440+ within two weeks can be as high as 3000. Then how come it is increasing? Obviously candidates from lower ranges improving their 1st language abilities and also adding 2nd language and higher education. They are also spending extra money to add spouse education and language result. Evidence of that is the 83rd draw where tie breaker rule applied to candidate who created profile back in May, 2017. Obviously that candidate had lesser points at the beginning and crawled his way up to 440+ range.

We all know these processes of improving CRS score are expensive and demand extra effort and time! Then why do people do this? Because immigration systems all over the world are quite unpredictable and IRCC is no different. People are scared what if IRCC brings a change and makes it difficult, what if they stop taking people, so much uncertainty in people's mind. When IRCC started to reduce the number of ITAs, people got more anxious and started to put their highest possible effort to increase their score, and that contributed CRS cutoff go to above 450 at the end part of last year. Naturally every one wants to get ahead of others, no matter what it takes.

In 2018 IRCC need to conduct regular biweekly draws and invite 3000+ folks every time if they want to achieve the target and we already have seen the increase of ITAs from 2750 to 3000, I am sure it will surge to record number very soon. Once they start inviting more folks, downward pressure on CRS cutoff will mount. When CRS cutoff will start to show signs of getting down, people will be much relaxed and happy to wait for their turn. Then the upper ranges will not fill up as it is filling up now and cutoff will go more down. In between back to back draws will do a lot of magic too! Two back to back draws with 3500+ ITAs will clear more than 7000 folks within 7 days! I don't think many people will be bothered to go through the hassle of retaking IELTS for CLB 9 band or learn french when they will see ITAs coming down to them very soon.

I am sure we are going to witness similar scenario like last year in upcoming months when CRS may go to record low and ITA number to record high of 4000.

Good Luck to everyone, May the Ray of Hope always shine bright!


hi @ishq74

glad to have your optimistic posts which many of us was craving for a long time now. Many are even saying that cutoff might not even come down to 435 even before the end of the year at least considering the higher end CRS candidates jumping into the pool quite suddenly, for instance 1000 applicants with over 442 entered the pool within the last 7 days of the last draw. So, this raised exasperation among all, that if this continues to be like this in the future it will be quite difficult to see a decline in the cutoff & also people are saying everyone to go with pnps cause of this growing tension. Honestly everyone is under great anxiety now with the overall situation. I have seen people with even 435 & up are running for OINP. I am planning to go either for Masters or go for French but for that i will have to invest a lot of time, money & energy.

So, do you think sitting on 435 I should opt for such ways of increasing my scores? or what is the best action i should be taking now? it will be great to have your opinion too on this matter. thanks : )
 

Contactnisha

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It's safe to improve crs rather than wait for cutoff to go down.


hi @ishq74

glad to have your optimistic posts which many of us was craving for a long time now. Many are even saying that cutoff might not even come down to 435 even before the end of the year at least considering the higher end CRS candidates jumping into the pool quite suddenly, for instance 1000 applicants with over 442 entered the pool within the last 7 days of the last draw. So, this raised exasperation among all, that if this continues to be like this in the future it will be quite difficult to see a decline in the cutoff & also people are saying everyone to go with pnps cause of this growing tension. Honestly everyone is under great anxiety now with the overall situation. I have seen people with even 435 & up are running for OINP. I am planning to go either for Masters or go for French but for that i will have to invest a lot of time, money & energy.

So, do you think sitting on 435 I should opt for such ways of increasing my scores? or what is the best action i should be taking now? it will be great to have your opinion too on this matter. thanks : )
 

Jakilee

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Dec 9, 2017
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Today I met the third person that got ITA on Wednesday but is declining for a silly mistake, Passport details, Wrong NOC etc. goes to show why people with high CRS keep rising in the pool.
 

Contactnisha

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Jul 15, 2017
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It's so sad that people value their ita with so much negligence.
When many are craving for one, some do not know what they have in hand.
A few months back, maybe in roh 66 or so there was an applicant who declined ita thrice just bcoz of some silly family issues. Infact ita was the weapon used for family wars.
Now many in 435+ are preparing for TEF just to get the golden email.
God knows how ironic 2018 is.
 

zagcollins

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Sep 9, 2017
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What if it’s the same company but the positions and noc are completely different and the supervisor has changed and shifted to a different unit as well?
then get a letter that mentions both sets of job duties along with relevant job titles, etc.
 
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khan.omar23

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Nov 21, 2017
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I have a query related to WES ECA. However, I couldn't find a dedicated thread, hence I'm asking it here. I'm currently sitting at 413 points, and I've done my Bachelor's degree. If I invest one year in a Diploma course, my score will go up to 440.

Now, the one-year diploma I'm considering is not affiliated to University of Mumbai, but is an autonomous part-time diploma course from the college. How can I know if it will be recognised by WES or not, and that I will get points for it?
 

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It was almost 50/50. I studied for 2 or 3 hours everyday in the weeks before the tests. At weekends, a little more. I took regular classes, private classes and classes with a former IELTS evaluator. It was a very very very long year for me.... =/
I always tell my students that the results is proportional to the hours they study. They just think that 40 hours of lessons is enough!
 

zagcollins

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I have a query related to WES ECA. However, I couldn't find a dedicated thread, hence I'm asking it here. I'm currently sitting at 413 points, and I've done my Bachelor's degree. If I invest one year in a Diploma course, my score will go up to 440.

Now, the one-year diploma I'm considering is not affiliated to University of Mumbai, but is an autonomous part-time diploma course from the college. How can I know if it will be recognised by WES or not, and that I will get points for it?
check the WES website for degree equivalency. Also, what's your IELTS score?
 

h1b2pr

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Thankuuu

actually i have created express entry profile using crs...i dnt know what is fsw and when do we use this...can u please explain me what i shud have done... i am in IT with 6 years of experience with age 28 and have aunt in canada...bachelors degree and ielts score as L-9, S-7.5,W -7, R-7.5
CRS is just a layer to filter out candidates. The main program you need to qualify is one of the below
FSW
FST
CEC
But don't worry, if you have used "Come to Canada" you must have already qualified. You probably qualified for FSW. You can validate here

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/become-candidate/eligibility/federal-skilled-workers/six-selection-factors-federal-skilled-workers.html