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I want to travel without my dependents. Will there be any problems getting them later?

santhkum90

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Ottawa
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2133
App. Filed.......
15-09-2017
AOR Received.
15-09-2017
Passport Req..
16-10-2017
VISA ISSUED...
25-10-2017
LANDED..........
28-03-2018
I want to bring my family here may be after 6 months to one year. Will there be any issues?
If you are the PA, then your dependents can either accompany you or come back at a later date. There is no problem with that. But make sure they enter Canada before the Visa expires, as it cannot be extended.
 

Ahmed Hussain

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If you are the PA, then your dependents can either accompany you or come back at a later date. There is no problem with that. But make sure they enter Canada before the Visa expires, as it cannot be extended.
Thanks for your reply. The visa processing will be only for me. I will do Visa processing for my dependants at a later date when i want to bring them. I hope that should not be a problem.
 

santhkum90

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Oct 17, 2017
700
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Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2133
App. Filed.......
15-09-2017
AOR Received.
15-09-2017
Passport Req..
16-10-2017
VISA ISSUED...
25-10-2017
LANDED..........
28-03-2018
Thanks for your reply. The visa processing will be only for me. I will do Visa processing for my dependants at a later date when i want to bring them. I hope that should not be a problem.
Are you applying under express entry and mentioning your dependents as non-accompanying? I don't understand what you mean by, you will process their visas later.
 

Ahmed Hussain

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Are you applying under express entry and mentioning your dependents as non-accompanying? I don't understand what you mean by, you will process their visas later.
Exactly... I am applying under Express Entry and will mention dependants as non-accompanying... What I want to know is, when I want to call my dependants to come to Canada later, will there be any problems? Or is it better if they accompany me now itself to avoid any issues in future...
 

santhkum90

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Oct 17, 2017
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Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2133
App. Filed.......
15-09-2017
AOR Received.
15-09-2017
Passport Req..
16-10-2017
VISA ISSUED...
25-10-2017
LANDED..........
28-03-2018
Exactly... I am applying under Express Entry and will mention dependants as non-accompanying... What I want to know is, when I want to call my dependants to come to Canada later, will there be any problems? Or is it better if they accompany me now itself to avoid any issues in future...
If you are mentioning your dependents as non-accompanying, then you have to sponsor their PR application at a later date and it must be approved for them to enter in to Canada. But if you mention them as accompanying, then all your PR visa application will be processed together. Once approved, then you can decide when to bring your dependents in to Canada at your own comfort (before the visa expires).
 
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Ahmed Hussain

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Jan 10, 2018
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If you are mentioning your dependents as non-accompanying, then you have to sponsor their PR application at a later date and it must be approved for them to enter in to Canada. But if you mention them as accompanying, then all your PR visa application will be processed together. Once approved, then you can decide when to bring your dependents in to Canada at your own comfort (before the visa expires). Of course, the accompanying one has the matter of additional amount to be provided in the proof of funds.
Is approval of PR for them more like a formality? On what grounds can Visa be rejected for dependents if the PA is already settled in Canada?
 

santhkum90

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Oct 17, 2017
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Canada
Category........
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2133
App. Filed.......
15-09-2017
AOR Received.
15-09-2017
Passport Req..
16-10-2017
VISA ISSUED...
25-10-2017
LANDED..........
28-03-2018
Is approval of PR for them more like a formality? On what grounds can Visa be rejected for dependents if the PA is already settled in Canada?
It's not about the rejection. If you have settled in Canada already and you have a job, then there is every possibility for the application to be approved but it will most likely take atleast 12 months for the approval. The issue here is the time taken for the approval. Even though you mention your dependents as non-accompanying in your PR application, still you have to provide all the necessary documents for them such as medicals and PCC. The upside is that you still get the same points as that of a single applicant. So, if you have enough points for getting an ITA when mentioning as accompanying, then it is better to do so. It is completely up to you and your scenario.
 
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Ahmed Hussain

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It's not about the rejection. If you have settled in Canada already and you have a job, then there is every possibility for the application to be approved but it will most likely take atleast 12 months for the approval. The issue here is the time taken for the approval. Even though you mention your dependents as non-accompanying in your PR application, still you have to provide all the necessary documents for them such as medicals and PCC. The upside is that you still get the same points as that of a single applicant. So, if you have enough points for getting an ITA when mentioning as accompanying, then it is better to do so. It is completely up to you and your scenario.
Thanks for all your replies over here. One more doubt I have is regarding proof of funds. I am under the impression that I have to show proof of funds for my entire family even though my dependents are not accompanying. But from your earlier answer you seem to imply that proof of funds need to be shown for dependents only if they are accompanying. Can you please clarify?
 

santhkum90

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Oct 17, 2017
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Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2133
App. Filed.......
15-09-2017
AOR Received.
15-09-2017
Passport Req..
16-10-2017
VISA ISSUED...
25-10-2017
LANDED..........
28-03-2018
Thanks for all your replies over here. One more doubt I have is regarding proof of funds. I am under the impression that I have to show proof of funds for my entire family even though my dependents are not accompanying. But from your earlier answer you seem to imply that proof of funds need to be shown for dependents only if they are accompanying. Can you please clarify?
No you have to show POF including your dependents whether they are accompanying or non-accompanying. I apologize if my answer led you to any other conclusion. All the docs are required to include your entire immediate family, so only it is better to include them as accompanying and go through the process only once.
 
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No you have to show POF including your dependents whether they are accompanying or non-accompanying. I apologize if my answer led you to any other conclusion. All the docs are required to include your entire immediate family, so only it is better to include them as accompanying and go through the process only once.
I would add to this that in the OPs original post which did not seem that clear anyway they implied they wanted their dependents to join in 6 months and posts after that still not clear whether they were declared as non accompanying or simply non accompanying for initial landing, joining the PA 6 months later.

Others can comment but do not think anyone here would recommend not including dependents both in he application and completing an initial landing, even if for the the dependents it is a soft landing with them returning to home country. At least in competing a soft landing they have near 3 years before they need to return to Canada to meet the residency obligation The alternative in having to sponsor them from scratch apart from having to go through the process again , with immigration there are no guarantees and could take at least 12 months anyway.

Maybe I have misread/misunderstood the whole thread but landing at the same time obviously costs but far less hassle in the bigger picture.
 
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Ahmed Hussain

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No you have to show POF including your dependents whether they are accompanying or non-accompanying. I apologize if my answer led you to any other conclusion. All the docs are required to include your entire immediate family, so only it is better to include them as accompanying and go through the process only once.
Thank you santhkum90
 

Ahmed Hussain

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Jan 10, 2018
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I would add to this that in the OPs original post which did not seem that clear anyway they implied they wanted their dependents to join in 6 months and posts after that still not clear whether they were declared as non accompanying or simply non accompanying for initial landing, joining the PA 6 months later.

Others can comment but do not think anyone here would recommend not including dependents both in he application and completing an initial landing, even if for the the dependents it is a soft landing with them returning to home country. At least in competing a soft landing they have near 3 years before they need to return to Canada to meet the residency obligation The alternative in having to sponsor them from scratch apart from having to go through the process again , with immigration there are no guarantees and could take at least 12 months anyway.

Maybe I have misread/misunderstood the whole thread but landing at the same time obviously costs but far less hassle in the bigger picture.
To clarify my question, I want to declare my dependents as non-accompanying in the application. I have got my queries answered now by santhkum90. The reason I want to do is because it costs less and it will be much easy for me to find a job and settle down here rather than bringing my dependents along to a new land and culture. The answers here show that it is not that good an idea.
 

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It's not about the rejection. If you have settled in Canada already and you have a job, then there is every possibility for the application to be approved but it will most likely take atleast 12 months for the approval. The issue here is the time taken for the approval. Even though you mention your dependents as non-accompanying in your PR application, still you have to provide all the necessary documents for them such as medicals and PCC. The upside is that you still get the same points as that of a single applicant. So, if you have enough points for getting an ITA when mentioning as accompanying, then it is better to do so. It is completely up to you and your scenario.
i think it called misrepresentation and i believe he wont be able to sponsor them if u are married and u want them to come u should mention them and not hidding them then after u get the residence u say i want theme to come .