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Arod

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a recent study will be helpful. This article dates back to April 2014
The article actually shows that the median income for middle class families in Canada reached US levels in 2010 and was expected to surpass it in the following years.

So I guess that even if the article is 3 years old the situation hasn´t changed much.
 
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4RyL

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The article actually shows that the median income for middle class families in Canada reached US levels in 2010 and was expected to surpass it in the following years.

So I guess that even if the article is 3 years old the situation hasn´t changed much.
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gaiou37

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I would pick Canada in a heart beat. In fact, I had permanent residence in the U.S. and gave it up to come to Canada (and I even gave it up before getting PR here, as I would NEVER want to live in the US again. Lived in the US for 6 years, been living in Canada for 5 years, got an education in both countries (BA in the States, Masters in Canada), and Canada is definitely 100% better in my opinion.

Canada has free (or relatively free) healthcare and a better government (more liberal), it's a more equal society, better health care for women (there is no mandatory minimum maternity leave in the US), more mandatory paid time off (2 weeks versus 0 in the States - I get 5 a my job). The only thing I prefer in the US overall is the weather.

And now that Trump has been elected, I would not even set foot in the US. Yikes.
 

JERiv

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This was a very interesting thread to read. I never really looked at immigration from this perspective.

My two cents as a US citizen.

Yes, the US is a great option/better if:

1) You are already rich, or are absolutely certain you can strike it rich (note: everyone thinks they can, few can actually ever actually achieve it).
2) You are ok with being discriminated against, either directly or indirectly. Unless you are male AND can easily pass of as White.
3) You are ok with others around you being discriminated against, directly or indirectly.
4) You are ok with a lot of folks around you being extremely religious, and think evangelicals are perfectly rational/sane/normal.
5) You are ok living in a society/culture that values $$ much more than people.
6) You love guns and think folk should be able to openly carry their guns everywhere (i.e. grocery store, church, Subway, school).
7) You are capable of eventually becoming numb to the constant mass shootings (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/mass-shootings-in-america/).
8) It's your only available choice for immigration.
9) You truly believe America is the end-all, be-all for what the rest of the World should be like, and needs no changes. Most Americans think this way.

Otherwise, it's not all it's cracked up to be. Among other things, the social safety net here is non-existent. What that means is that if something happens and you fall on bad times, you will have nothing to cushion that blow. Also, the conservative party here in the US is truly a conservative party. Most folks don't realize just how far right they really are. What little social safety net there is, it is their life's mission to utterly destroy it. A lot of them share Ayn Rand's dystopian, anti-government philosophy, and her "morality of selfishness".

There is a reason social/economic mobility in the US has declined so horribly in the past few decades. Most other countries have much better social/economic mobility.
 
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lampbreaker

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It's the difference in economy. A 100K CAD salary job in Canada is equivalent to 100K USD job in US. So it won't make sense to expect a 100K USD job in Canada. They simply cant afford it.
Are their any websites where we can find salaries in Canada? What would a senior manager or director level position get vs. analyst/entry level? (I mean I know it will vary by job type, company etc.), but just ballparks.
 

Jeksis

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This was a very interesting thread to read. I never really looked at immigration from this perspective.

My two cents as a US citizen.

Yes, the US is a great option/better if:

1) You are already rich, or are absolutely certain you can strike it rich (note: everyone thinks they can, few can actually ever actually achieve it).
2) You are ok with being discriminated against, either directly or indirectly. Unless you are male AND can easily pass of as White.
3) You are ok with others around you being discriminated against, directly or indirectly.
4) You are ok with a lot of folks around you being extremely religious, and think evangelicals are perfectly rational/sane/normal.
5) You are ok living in a society/culture that values $$ much more than people.
6) You love guns and think folk should be able to openly carry their guns everywhere (i.e. grocery store, church, Subway, school).
7) You are capable of eventually become numb to the constant mass shootings (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/mass-shootings-in-america/).
8) It's your only available choice for immigration.
9) You truly believe America is the end-all, be-all for what the rest of the World should be like, and needs no changes. Most Americans think this way.

Otherwise, it's not all it's cracked up to be. Among other things, the social safety net here is non-existent. What that means is that if something happens and you fall on bad times, you will have nothing to cushion that blow. Also, the conservative party here in the US is truly a conservative party. Most folks don't realize just how far right they really are. What little social safety net there is, it is their life's mission to utterly destroy it. A lot of them share Ayn Rand's dystopian, anti-government philosophy, and her "morality of selfishness".

There is a reason social/economic mobility in the US has declined so horribly in the past few decades. Most other countries have much better social/economic mobility.
Lol ha ha...

(Only disagree with the evangelical piece.)

Didn't bat an eye in decision to Canada!
 

JERiv

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Lol ha ha...

(Only disagree with the evangelical piece.)

Didn't bat an eye in decision to Canada!
Sorry. I know there are exceptions. However, as a group, their huge support of Republicans, the whole Roy Moore affair, their overwhelming support for Trump during (and after) the election (80% voted for him), the constant condemnation of non-evangelicals/democrats who in their eyes have "sinned" while instantly forgiving evangelicals/republicans, all while still claiming to embrace Jesus, has really turned me off on them as a group.
 

Jeksis

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Sorry. I know there are exceptions. However, as a group, their huge support of Republicans, the whole Roy Moore affair, their overwhelming support for Trump during (and after) the election (80% voted for him), the constant condemnation of non-evangelicals/democrats who in their eyes have "sinned" while instantly forgiving evangelicals/republicans, all while still claiming to embrace Jesus, has really turned me off on them as a group.
Np, I get your position.

Just noticed we both landed last month. Hope you're settling in well. :)
 

JERiv

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Np, I get your position.

Just noticed we both landed last month. Hope you're settling in well. :)
Thank you! We just did a "soft" landing. Our hope is that we're able to move soon.

If you were able to move already, then I truly do hope you're settling well! :)
 

Jeksis

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AOR Received.
17-07-2017
IELTS Request
24-08-2017
Med's Done....
26-07-2017
Passport Req..
06-11-2017
LANDED..........
02-12-2017
Thank you! We just did a "soft" landing. Our hope is that we're able to move soon.

If you were able to move already, then I truly do hope you're settling well! :)
Yes, I moved permanently. Thanks!

Hope you are able to make the big move soon too and without hassle.
 
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I would pick Canada in a heart beat. In fact, I had permanent residence in the U.S. and gave it up to come to Canada (and I even gave it up before getting PR here, as I would NEVER want to live in the US again. Lived in the US for 6 years, been living in Canada for 5 years, got an education in both countries (BA in the States, Masters in Canada), and Canada is definitely 100% better in my opinion.

Canada has free (or relatively free) healthcare and a better government (more liberal), it's a more equal society, better health care for women (there is no mandatory minimum maternity leave in the US), more mandatory paid time off (2 weeks versus 0 in the States - I get 5 a my job). The only thing I prefer in the US overall is the weather.

And now that Trump has been elected, I would not even set foot in the US. Yikes.
wow very well put I agree completely with ur assessment. I spent 9 years in US and I prefer Canada over US any day