I would argue that submitting multiple applications because one is impatient has more potential to cause confusion with IRCC.
Citizenship Applications Delivered: October 16-20, 2017 (C6)
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Nope. Our Citizenship application or any applications are linked with our UCI. So it will show them that already one application is in process. Second AOR for second application could be because someone missed to see that already one application of same type in process. Thats my understanding. Also they cant say that just because you were impatient and send another application we will cancel processing of your first application and will process your second application only. It would be easier instead not to process second application at all.
Your understanding based on what? And why would the second application generate an AOR? I wouldn't assume that the person opening the second file checks the UCI, see's that there is already an application in process, and would what, throw it away?
No, that doesn't make sense to me. I'd think that some investigative process would have to happen because the first application is on it's way to the local case centre or already there and the agent would have to determine for sure that it's a duplicate.
Or worse, lets say the first was returned for incompleteness but while in transit back to the applicant, they receive the second application. They open it and have to examine it to see if it's now complete, only to find it still isn't complete, so that application would get sent back as well.
This is what cic manual says about multiple applications:
Application on hold
Application on hold
- If the client does not wish to withdraw an application, the client can choose which application is processed first. A note will be put on the other application and the local office or the CPC-S will hold it pending the outcome of the chosen application.
- If the application is successful, the application on hold will be designated "incomplete", the file retired and the appropriate fees returned.
- If the application is unsuccessful, the suspended application is released from hold and processing continued.
- The client should be instructed to advise CIC if their application is unsuccessful in order to ensure that their second application is released from hold and processed promptly.
In regards to the UCI, I'm not sure why you're latching on to this, but I didn't state otherwise.
That is not common sense nor is it good business sense. Government agency or not, they are not likely to just assume anything of the sort. They will need to figure out what is going on.
I guess you just don't care that someone's time is being wasted. That's the problem with everyone that is advising others to submit 1, 2, or 3 times. They don't seem to care that at some point it's going to take time away from an agent that could better use their time to, I don't know, PROCESS OTHER APPLICATIONS?
I suppose if you're correcting information in the file, this is reasonable.
The manual does not state correcting or not. It is talking about multible applications in general. If I am right !
Yes, but I'm not sure what you gain.
Scenario 1: Both applications flowing through the same process, so application 1 gets looked at and then application 2 arrives. Any processing has to stop and if the letter is followed, they then start back at the beginning of the process with application 2. You've caused a delay for yourself.
Scenario 2: Somehow application 2 begins processing before application 1. They see the letter but no previous application. The letter is put aside, application 2 starts processing. Meanwhile, application 1 is opened and processing started. It's noted that there is already an application being processed and everything is halted because they need to communicate with you to determine how to proceed. The cover letter may not be known to the person that put your file on hold. Or if it is, how do they know which is application 1? Delay to your application is probable.
Scenario 3: (this is the one you're hoping for) Application 1 is nowhere to be seen and so never opened or doesn't get opened until application 2 is completed and you're a citizen. This is the only scenario that doesn't cause a delay, according to the manual page.
I do not agree about the second point. If you already have the second application in process before the first one, they will put the first one on hold as the second application has started processing already and it is the primary application.
Now I agree if the first application is opened before the second one then yes. They will keep the 1st one in hold and process the second as you wanted in your covering letter. This will cause delays.
Now I agree if the first application is opened before the second one then yes. They will keep the 1st one in hold and process the second as you wanted in your covering letter. This will cause delays.
I think we have differing assumptions. No doubt, though, that the very first thing that happens is that any application in progress is halted pending a determination as to which application to process. You're assuming that the case officer that has your file has ready access to the cover letter and at some point figures out that the second application that was opened is actually what you had referred to in your letter as the first application. At the very least he would have to wait until the application is sent to him from Sydney so he can make that determination. Some delay there, at least.
My assumption is that the person that is doing the initial check in Sydney opens the file, notices that there is an application in progress, flags it to halt pending further communication, and sends you an email or more likely snail mail so that you can call them and tell them which to proceed with. Considerable delay involved.
Not sure which would happen because neither of us work there, but I still think that unless scenario 3 happens, you're facing some probable delay time by sending the multiple applications.
How do we get test invitation? Is it by mail or we need to check our status online? Or is it by email?
Really? What’s your statement based on?
Have a look at this manual. Does it make more sense now? https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/canadian-citizenship/admininistration/general-file-processing/procedure-multiple-applications.html
Used to be snail mail, but these days people have been receiving it via email. Maybe IRCC is slowly upgrading their systems. ECAS updates either way.
It was updated in ECAS in my case. I haven't got email nor snail mail yet.
