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IEC work permit re-application experience.

PMM

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Hi


puggz said:
I am in the same boat my IEC will run out before before the quota opens in jan 2015..
so with the vistor visa can you apply online or can you only mail it to ottawa?
And am I applying for an exetend vistor visa? ( ive never had a vistor visa before only IEC)
1. You apply either on line or by mail to Vegreville
2. You extend your stay as a visitor: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/extend/visa.asp
 

patchbrennan

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Jul 12, 2015
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Hi Guys,

I have a question somewhat relating to what some of you have touched on.

I want to re apply to Canada. I was there on a 2 year visa (from June 2013) that I applied using my Irish passport. I believe I cannot reply using this. However, I am an Australian citizen (born & raised) and I was hoping to apply using my Australian passport.

I am afraid I might be rejected or even worse, turned away on arrival. I have searched all over the internet but haven't been able to find an answer on this. Would anyone here know, or be able to point me in the right direction?

I am back in Sydney now, and just getting my bearings. Would anyone suggest any immigration specialists in Sydney either?

Thanks for any information in advance!
 

andrew-brit

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patchbrennan said:
Hi Guys,

I have a question somewhat relating to what some of you have touched on.

I want to re apply to Canada. I was there on a 2 year visa (from June 2013) that I applied using my Irish passport. I believe I cannot reply using this. However, I am an Australian citizen (born & raised) and I was hoping to apply using my Australian passport.

I am afraid I might be rejected or even worse, turned away on arrival. I have searched all over the internet but haven't been able to find an answer on this. Would anyone here know, or be able to point me in the right direction?

I am back in Sydney now, and just getting my bearings. Would anyone suggest any immigration specialists in Sydney either?

Thanks for any information in advance!
Australia has an unlimited number of 18-30 year olds allowed to get a working holiday visa for up to 24 months. You have to meet standard eligibility which is similar to the Irish (proof of funds, return ticket, health insurance etc).

If does not mention it being an issue if you have already have a working holiday/IEC visa through a different country/passport but I do not think it will be an issue.

Also because there are an unlimited number of visas available you can apply right now, I believe.

Source:here
 

aanwar11

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Jul 29, 2017
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can I get a work permit on US/Canada border under IEC?
My previous work permit got expired on 22 july and passport is still with IRCC people. The mistake in my application was my employer by mistake marked me outside Canada. I have stopped working since 22 july and decision for my new work permit came on 27th july. I cant go to border because my passport will come back by early next week. can anyone simply my situation?
I have applied for new work permit under IEC second time and that even got approved. CIC told me to go to exit and then re enter to do flag pole.
can anyone help?
 

aanwar11

Member
Jul 29, 2017
14
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I'm posting this thread in case there's anyone else in my situation and they're not sure what to do. In my case, I'm an Australian national who entered Canada on an IEC 2-year open Working Holiday permit around two years ago. I've just successfully obtained my second work permit, which is identical in all ways to the first. The process to obtain this wasn't the clearest, though, hence I'm making this thread.

First, a few erroneous assumptions I made:
I can extend or otherwise renew my current IEC work permit. --FALSE.
Apparently the IEC work permits are fixed, regardless of what you see on CIC websites telling you that work permits can be extended. I thought this was the case until about a month before my first permit expired. Since a condition of the permits is that you leave Canada on/before the date they expire, I had to find a way to stay (being happily employed and not ready to leave yet). So, I thought I'd just apply for a new IEC work permit and the implied status would see me through the period after my first permit expired.

IEC work permit applications give you implied status in Canada. --FALSE.
I very nearly didn't check this; I only asked a CIC agent on the phone to make absolutely sure, and to my shock they told me that since IEC permits are technically processed *outside* of Canada, if you're in Canada you don't get any implied status from this application. At this point I had two options; apply for a visitor permit extension, or try to get a work permit through the LMO/LMIA route (which, since it'd be processed in Canada, would give implied status). The visitor permit extension application would mean that after my first work permit expired, I'd no longer be able to work, but could remain in the country until the visitor permit expired. I decided to apply for that, since an LMO/LMIA is another time-consuming thing.

As luck would have it, my second IEC WP application only took 9 days from sending it to CIC to getting a positive reply; I had over a week to plan a way to get my new WP. This meant that my visitor permit application ended up being useless, but better safe than sorry (and it only cost 100 CAD). Now came the final trick in the process; I'd have to leave and re-enter Canada to get the new WP. This was done by driving to the Canada-US border and performing a process apparently called 'flagpoling'. The broad steps are:
> Get to the border. You don't need to talk to any Canadian border agents before crossing into the US, apparently.
> Once crossed, tell the US side you're there to do Canadian documentation stuff. The guy at the window will keep your passport, ask you to park and come into the building. They'll give you an 'administrative refusal' piece of paper to show the Canadians after a few minutes.
> Drive back into Canada. The border agent in the window will just ask for your passport, not any of the papers, and ask standard immigration questions. Then you'll be asked to enter their building to finalise the work permit stuff.
> Inside, present your passport with the letter of introduction and proof of health insurance (they're very particular about that). I waited about 10-15 minutes before getting a brand shiny new work permit, valid for another 2 years.

A few notes about the process;
+ From now on if any form asks 'have you been refused entry to a country', I have to answer 'yes' apparently. I'm guessing I can always explain it was for administrative purposes though.
+ Private health insurance is apparently preferred over work-based health plans (i.e. ones that are attached to employment and would go away if your employment terminated).

I'm not sure how many people apply for 2 IEC work permits in a row, but hopefully this helps someone out. If anyone has questions about my application's specifics (which countries to get police checks from, which pages of passport to scan, etc.) feel free to ask.
I'm posting this thread in case there's anyone else in my situation and they're not sure what to do. In my case, I'm an Australian national who entered Canada on an IEC 2-year open Working Holiday permit around two years ago. I've just successfully obtained my second work permit, which is identical in all ways to the first. The process to obtain this wasn't the clearest, though, hence I'm making this thread.

First, a few erroneous assumptions I made:
I can extend or otherwise renew my current IEC work permit. --FALSE.
Apparently the IEC work permits are fixed, regardless of what you see on CIC websites telling you that work permits can be extended. I thought this was the case until about a month before my first permit expired. Since a condition of the permits is that you leave Canada on/before the date they expire, I had to find a way to stay (being happily employed and not ready to leave yet). So, I thought I'd just apply for a new IEC work permit and the implied status would see me through the period after my first permit expired.

IEC work permit applications give you implied status in Canada. --FALSE.
I very nearly didn't check this; I only asked a CIC agent on the phone to make absolutely sure, and to my shock they told me that since IEC permits are technically processed *outside* of Canada, if you're in Canada you don't get any implied status from this application. At this point I had two options; apply for a visitor permit extension, or try to get a work permit through the LMO/LMIA route (which, since it'd be processed in Canada, would give implied status). The visitor permit extension application would mean that after my first work permit expired, I'd no longer be able to work, but could remain in the country until the visitor permit expired. I decided to apply for that, since an LMO/LMIA is another time-consuming thing.

As luck would have it, my second IEC WP application only took 9 days from sending it to CIC to getting a positive reply; I had over a week to plan a way to get my new WP. This meant that my visitor permit application ended up being useless, but better safe than sorry (and it only cost 100 CAD). Now came the final trick in the process; I'd have to leave and re-enter Canada to get the new WP. This was done by driving to the Canada-US border and performing a process apparently called 'flagpoling'. The broad steps are:
> Get to the border. You don't need to talk to any Canadian border agents before crossing into the US, apparently.
> Once crossed, tell the US side you're there to do Canadian documentation stuff. The guy at the window will keep your passport, ask you to park and come into the building. They'll give you an 'administrative refusal' piece of paper to show the Canadians after a few minutes.
> Drive back into Canada. The border agent in the window will just ask for your passport, not any of the papers, and ask standard immigration questions. Then you'll be asked to enter their building to finalise the work permit stuff.
> Inside, present your passport with the letter of introduction and proof of health insurance (they're very particular about that). I waited about 10-15 minutes before getting a brand shiny new work permit, valid for another 2 years.

A few notes about the process;
+ From now on if any form asks 'have you been refused entry to a country', I have to answer 'yes' apparently. I'm guessing I can always explain it was for administrative purposes though.
+ Private health insurance is apparently preferred over work-based health plans (i.e. ones that are attached to employment and would go away if your employment terminated).

I'm not sure how many people apply for 2 IEC work permits in a row, but hopefully this helps someone out. If anyone has questions about my application's specifics (which countries to get police checks from, which pages of passport to scan, etc.) feel free to ask.
question: can I get a work permit on US/Canada border under IEC?
My previous work permit got expired on 22 july and passport is still with IRCC people. The mistake in my application was my employer by mistake marked me outside Canada. I have stopped working since 22 july and decision for my new work permit came on 27th july. I cant go to border because my passport will come back by early next week. can anyone simply my situation?
I have applied for new work permit under IEC second time and that even got approved. CIC told me to go to exit and then re enter to do flag pole.
can anyone help?
 
Dec 22, 2017
1
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I'm posting this thread in case there's anyone else in my situation and they're not sure what to do. In my case, I'm an Australian national who entered Canada on an IEC 2-year open Working Holiday permit around two years ago. I've just successfully obtained my second work permit, which is identical in all ways to the first. The process to obtain this wasn't the clearest, though, hence I'm making this thread.

First, a few erroneous assumptions I made:
I can extend or otherwise renew my current IEC work permit. --FALSE.
Apparently the IEC work permits are fixed, regardless of what you see on CIC websites telling you that work permits can be extended. I thought this was the case until about a month before my first permit expired. Since a condition of the permits is that you leave Canada on/before the date they expire, I had to find a way to stay (being happily employed and not ready to leave yet). So, I thought I'd just apply for a new IEC work permit and the implied status would see me through the period after my first permit expired.

IEC work permit applications give you implied status in Canada. --FALSE.
I very nearly didn't check this; I only asked a CIC agent on the phone to make absolutely sure, and to my shock they told me that since IEC permits are technically processed *outside* of Canada, if you're in Canada you don't get any implied status from this application. At this point I had two options; apply for a visitor permit extension, or try to get a work permit through the LMO/LMIA route (which, since it'd be processed in Canada, would give implied status). The visitor permit extension application would mean that after my first work permit expired, I'd no longer be able to work, but could remain in the country until the visitor permit expired. I decided to apply for that, since an LMO/LMIA is another time-consuming thing.

As luck would have it, my second IEC WP application only took 9 days from sending it to CIC to getting a positive reply; I had over a week to plan a way to get my new WP. This meant that my visitor permit application ended up being useless, but better safe than sorry (and it only cost 100 CAD). Now came the final trick in the process; I'd have to leave and re-enter Canada to get the new WP. This was done by driving to the Canada-US border and performing a process apparently called 'flagpoling'. The broad steps are:
> Get to the border. You don't need to talk to any Canadian border agents before crossing into the US, apparently.
> Once crossed, tell the US side you're there to do Canadian documentation stuff. The guy at the window will keep your passport, ask you to park and come into the building. They'll give you an 'administrative refusal' piece of paper to show the Canadians after a few minutes.
> Drive back into Canada. The border agent in the window will just ask for your passport, not any of the papers, and ask standard immigration questions. Then you'll be asked to enter their building to finalise the work permit stuff.
> Inside, present your passport with the letter of introduction and proof of health insurance (they're very particular about that). I waited about 10-15 minutes before getting a brand shiny new work permit, valid for another 2 years.

A few notes about the process;
+ From now on if any form asks 'have you been refused entry to a country', I have to answer 'yes' apparently. I'm guessing I can always explain it was for administrative purposes though.
+ Private health insurance is apparently preferred over work-based health plans (i.e. ones that are attached to employment and would go away if your employment terminated).

I'm not sure how many people apply for 2 IEC work permits in a row, but hopefully this helps someone out. If anyone has questions about my application's specifics (which countries to get police checks from, which pages of passport to scan, etc.) feel free to ask.
Hi my 2 years just came to an end I'm British can I apply for another 2 years