Canadian tourist visa rejected for the reasons that were already provided in the application

[Bryanna]

Hi,
I agree with you. I think she should have applied only in the Philippines not in Australia and instead deposit some money to her account instead of having invitation letter from her fiance and having those bank statement..

It won't make a difference even if she reapplies from the Philippines. IMO, her overall ties are weak.

Also, what were the nature of her visits to the UK, Schengen countries, etc? For work? Or for holidays? And were these visits paid for by the OP or by someone else?

BTW it is bad advice to deposit money in an applicant's account just to prove s/he has the money to afford the visit. The visa officer is smart to do the math to check if the numbers add up.

If she has set a date for the wedding + booked the wedding venue in Australia + sent out the invites + can have friends/relatives prove they have booked plane tickets for her wedding.... then these documents could help for her TRV app

 

[berabad]

hi, I have a (not so similar) case. I'm a PR visa holder and invited my mom and 2 brothers from the Philippines. My mom got passport request but my 2 brothers were refused. It was an online application and my mom was the primary applicant. It was a bitter and sweet decision and I'm planning to apply again for my 2 brothers sometime in the future. Rea

 

[Gumamela1984]

You are a "digital nomad", and you work part-time, meaning you can work anywhere...these do not constitute stable ties to your home country, which happens to be the Philippines, which is also last year's top source of immigrants to Canada. $4000 is also a low amount...it doesn't matter if you have a fiance to support you, the applicant is still expected to show their own funds.

The reasons for your refusal aren't surprising at all.

You can probably still get a refund for your flight if you show your refusal letter to the airline. It's never recommended to buy flights to Canada before a TRV is approved.

I have two work contracts, the other one was when I have been working for 5 years and the other one is part-time. I also included my business permit.

The first time I had applied for my visa in Canada, I had done the same. I didn't even have a bank statement, all I presented was the money I get every month via western union and letter of support from American. If anything, my situation was better than the first time I applied.

I have done the same for all my approved visa in Europe, Japan, Australia. I am even granted multiple entries in my second visit here in Australia.

So this is surprising to me.

I got my money back from the ticket.

 

[Gumamela1984]

It won't make a difference even if she reapplies from the Philippines. IMO, her overall ties are weak.

Also, what were the nature of her visits to the UK, Schengen countries, etc? For work? Or for holidays? And were these visits paid for by the OP or by someone else?

BTW it is bad advice to deposit money in an applicant's account just to prove s/he has the money to afford the visit. The visa officer is smart to do the math to check if the numbers add up.

If she has set a date for the wedding + booked the wedding venue in Australia + sent out the invites + can have friends/relatives prove they have booked plane tickets for her wedding.... then these documents could help for her TRV app

Yeah - I think you took a few wrong turns with your application. I would have personally put together your application and evidence quite differently.

Your boyfriend cannot invite you to visit Canada. He's not in Canada or Canadian. Including an invitation letter from him unfortunately weakened your application. Additionally, indicating he would support your stay in Canada also weakened your application. You should have applied based on your own assets, finances and ties to your home country.

Canada has had a significant uptick in refugee claims recently (due to changes in US policies) and consequently it's quite important to prove ties to your home country in a TRV application. Looking objectively at your application - your ties were effectively non-existent. You applied from outside of your home country and it looks like you have no plans to return to your home country. I suspect it may have also seemed odd to Canadian officials that you were looking to spend time in Canada over Christmas when your fiance is American.

Anyway - if you want to reapply, apply based on your own merits. Leave your fiance out of it.

The first time I applied for Canadian visa, I had a support from non-Canadian. I presented only Western Union slip that I get every month and no bank statements. I included the Intent to Marry form form with a signiture of an authotized celebrant. I also have to explain how I need to go back to Philippines because of my US VIsa application. If anything my situation is better than the first time I applied. I wouldn't think what I have done this time would turn into refusal.

 

[Gumamela1984]

Agree with Bellaluna. You applied from Australia, where you have visitor status only. You seem to have been there a while, and intend on spending further time there, indicating your ties to work are weak ( despite being a digital warrior), as well as your ties to the Philippines and there is nothing preveI nting you from working in Canada. Your travel history probably supports that further. Your fiancés finances are irrelevant, as there is no obligation for him to pay anything if you do overstay (even if he was Canadian it probably wouldn’t help).
Canada can be tougher than most countries for visitor visas. A possible concern for you now will be the effect it has on other visa applications, now and in the future.

I have done the same when I applied the first time. No bank statement on my part only western union slips showing the money I get every month.

 

[Gumamela1984]

Agree with Bellaluna. You applied from Australia, where you have visitor status only. You seem to have been there a while, and intend on spending further time there, indicating your ties to work are weak ( despite being a digital warrior), as well as your ties to the Philippines and there is nothing preventing you from working in Canada. Your travel history probably supports that further. Your fiancés finances are irrelevant, as there is no obligation for him to pay anything if you do overstay (even if he was Canadian it probably wouldn’t help).
Canada can be tougher than most countries for visitor visas. A possible concern for you now will be the effect it has on other visa applications, now and in the future.

Yeah, I thought being a digital nomad would be difficult to get visas but I was granted Schengen, Japanese, and Australian visa. I thought to put up evidence of what I do and all the payments I get from clients would suffice. It is definitely better than the first time I applied for my Canadian visa tho, in which I was granted with one, so I thought all of this would be better than the first time I applied. Because the first time was no bank statement, only western union slips but supported by non-Canadian. I have included in my letter of explanation what I do here in Australia and the plan of getting married in January.

 

[Gumamela1984]

Where do you get flight reservation from without fee? I have been looking online but there's always this expensive fee.

 

[Gumamela1984]

@bellaluna

I attached the documents in one PDF. I noticed you can only upload one file and that's what they also said in the instruction.

 

[Gumamela1984]

I appreciate everyone's thought, but I would really love some opinion on the reason for my refusal which was
EMPLOYMENT PROSPECT IN THE COUNTRY OF RESIDENCE, CURRENT EMPLOYMENT SITUATION AND PERSONAL ASSETS AND FINANCIAL STATUS. Not unless you are going to tell me that their letter has more to it that is NOT related to what it said.

I already got some good point from some of you. Thank you.
Would also love to hear from people who have (almost) the same case either rejected or approved.

 

[scylla]

These refusal reasons are quite standard. We see them all of the time.

Employment prospects in country of residence is a judgement call CIC has made about the Philippines in general and isn't specific to you (although it's being held against you). Effectively they are stating that it's a country where employment prospects are generally less plentiful and individuals living in that country are more likely to be looking to relocate. Again, not specific to you but a generalization about your country of origin.

Current employment situation refers to your specific employment status. Here CIC is looking for traditional employment where you are working for an employer in your country of origin / residency and physically work at an office. Longer employment (i.e. several years) and more established / larger companies are preferred. This kind of employment demonstrates ties to your home country and shows that you plan to return to your home country after your visit. Your employment sounds like it's entirely remote - this means you have no obligation to return to your home country and your employment can't really be used to show ties.

Personal assets and financial status is property owned, bank statements and other assets. Ideally you want to show a healthy bank account and property in your name. I believe you showed a bank account with a few thousand dollars in it which would unfortunately be perceived as quite weak given how much a trip to Canada will cost (again, they will have assessed you individually - not on the basis of your fiance's finances). Do you happen to own any properties? Or have any other bank accounts or assets? These would need to be in your name specifically to help.

Unfortunately the short answer to all of this is that your profile is too similar to the profile of others from your country of origin who have abused the Canadian visitor visa privilege in the past. In other words, you are being penalized for the past actions of others who did not follow the rules and overstayed their allowed visit.

 

[Gumamela1984]

These refusal reasons are quite standard. We see them all of the time.

Employment prospects in country of residence is a judgement call CIC has made about the Philippines in general and isn't specific to you (although it's being held against you). Effectively they are stating that it's a country where employment prospects are generally less plentiful and individuals living in that country are more likely to be looking to relocate. Again, not specific to you but a generalization about your country of origin.

Current employment situation refers to your specific employment status. Here CIC is looking for traditional employment where you are working for an employer in your country of origin / residency and physically work at an office. Longer employment (i.e. several years) and more established / larger companies are preferred. This kind of employment demonstrates ties to your home country and shows that you plan to return to your home country after your visit. Your employment sounds like it's entirely remote - this means you have no obligation to return to your home country and your employment can't really be used to show ties.

Personal assets and financial status is property owned, bank statements and other assets. Ideally you want to show a healthy bank account and property in your name. I believe you showed a bank account with a few thousand dollars in it which would unfortunately be perceived as quite weak given how much a trip to Canada will cost (again, they will have assessed you individually - not on the basis of your fiance's finances). Do you happen to own any properties? Or have any other bank accounts or assets? These would need to be in your name specifically to help.

Unfortunately the short answer to all of this is that your profile is too similar to the profile of others from your country of origin who have abused the Canadian visitor visa privilege in the past. In other words, you are being penalized for the past actions of others who did not follow the rules and overstayed their allowed visit.

Very insightful. I might try again in the future coz there is no need for me to re-apply right now since my fiance is coming in January. Maybe I would emphasize my job as an office job rather than a remote job in my cover letter.

Thank you. I am taking note of this for my next application. It is just surprising to me how this application is better than my first Canadian tourist application where I was granted with one but had a refusal this time.

Few things If you have more ideas how to make my "digital nomad" type of job stronger ties to my country? that's always a dilemma but after getting major visas, i thought it would also be acceptable in Canada.

And last thing.
if I apply for a visa next time, would my refused visa application matter? are they ever going through my old application and say, wait - this is the digital nomad person.

If you or anyone here really, have info (please not opinion) I would appreciate it deeply. Thank you and have a great day!

 

[scylla]

Very insightful. I might try again in the future coz there is no need for me to re-apply right now since my fiance is coming in January. Maybe I would emphasize my job as an office job rather than a remote job in my cover letter.

Thank you. I am taking note of this for my next application. It is just surprising to me how this application is better than my first Canadian tourist application where I was granted with one but had a refusal this time.

Few things If you have more ideas how to make my "digital nomad" type of job stronger ties to my country? that's always a dilemma but after getting major visas, i thought it would also be acceptable in Canada.

And last thing.
if I apply for a visa next time, would my refused visa application matter? are they ever going through my old application and say, wait - this is the digital nomad person.

If you or anyone here really, have info (please not opinion) I would appreciate it deeply. Thank you and have a great day!

I honestly think the multiple references to your fiance is what sunk this application. Anyway - what's done is done.

You'll need to declare this refused application in any future applications to Canada (and likely elsewhere). Failure to declare this refusal in a future application to Canada will result in a refused application and may result in a misrepresentation finding (which you want to avoid since it's a five year ban from Canada). A previous refusal doesn't mean you'll be refused subsequently. If you can overcome the refusals reasons - approval is entirely possible and we've seen lots of cases here where this has happened and individuals have been approved after refusals. If you want to hear these kinds of stories, your best bet is to read through historical threads in this section of the forum.

 

[Buletruck]

You'll need to declare this refused application in any future applications to Canada (and likely elsewhere).

Particularly with your US application. The information sharing between the US and Canada is based on direct access. US Immigration will know immediately about the refusal and you really want to avoid any issues with them.

 

[Gumamela1984]

I honestly think the multiple references to your fiance is what sunk this application. Anyway - what's done is done.

You'll need to declare this refused application in any future applications to Canada (and likely elsewhere). Failure to declare this refusal in a future application to Canada will result in a refused application and may result in a misrepresentation finding (which you want to avoid since it's a five year ban from Canada). A previous refusal doesn't mean you'll be refused subsequently. If you can overcome the refusals reasons - approval is entirely possible and we've seen lots of cases here where this has happened and individuals have been approved after refusals. If you want to hear these kinds of stories, your best bet is to read through historical threads in this section of the forum.

Will look into this. Thanks a lot!

 

[Gumamela1984]

Particularly with your US application. The information sharing between the US and Canada is based on direct access. US Immigration will know immediately about the refusal and you really want to avoid any issues with them.

You mean with the spousal visa?
Would it be best not to apply anymore and just proceed with US visa to avoid refusal?
US and Canada are sharing info? How certain are you with this info? I'm only asking for future reference. Thank you.