Parents Supervisa [Reason of visiting and ties to home country]

[Guiders]

Hello,

I'm planning on applying for parents supervisa in few days and the reason for visit I've mentioned in the invitation letter is that my spouse needs to complete her studies (MCCEE - Medicine) as she was unable to since the birth of our child (now 2years) and still she is unable to study as she had to look after our baby.

We opted for babysitter however, that didn't work out as our babysitting is for limited hours while wife needs to study throughout with breaks in between - and secondly child fell ill the very next day and we then didn't continue.

I'm attaching my wife registration documents and her exam history (which currently shows Nil) with the application.

Do you suggest it's an acceptable reason? as this is actually our real issue.

Lastly, my dad is retired since 2010 and frequently travels from Pakistan to Dubai (where my brother lives) due to which it's clear we don't have anything that ties to home country. No property, no pension, no salary, no business, no family (other than dad's brothers). This is another concern.

 

[scylla]

Definitely do not use that as a reason for the visit. Parents aren't allowed to work while in Canada on a super visa and what you're describing will most likely be classified as working by CIC. Stating this in your application will significantly increase the chances of a refusal.

I don't know what to say about the ties. Based on what you've said, it sounds like they don't have any?

 

[Guiders]

Definitely do not use that as a reason for the visit. Parents aren't allowed to work while in Canada on a super visa and what you're describing will most likely be classified as working by CIC. Stating this in your application will significantly increase the chances of a refusal.

I don't know what to say about the ties. Based on what you've said, it sounds like they don't have any?

Thank you, Scylla

This is my honest case. Not sure if its ethical enough but then what reason do I give them? simply that they want to visit us? that's not a strong reason though.

And Yes, unfortunately we don't have ties to home country. We've hardly lived in our home country.

Will be really thankful for your reply. I really want my parents to be with me in this age - they're getting quite old now.

 

[Guiders]

Hi @Bryanna
I came across this reply of yours i.e. "Yes, IRCC does send requests for medical furtherance by post"
Do they mail us or the physician panel? Don't they communicate via email?

Thank you.

 

[scylla]

Yes - you should simply say they want to visit.

Can they show ties to Dubai? If so, what ties?

 

[Guiders]

Thanks again.

My brother lives and works in Dubai and parents visit him quite often. Unfortunately Dubai rules for expats buying property in Dubai changed only when my dad had retired so he couldn't buy that either.

 

[scylla]

I don't know what to suggest in that case.

They'll have to apply without proof of ties and hope for the best.

Probably best they apply for a regular visitor visa (rather than super visa) and request a short trip (2 weeks).

 

[Guiders]

Can I mention that since my parents moved back to dubai (after retirement), my paternal grandmother now lives with my dad - for couple of months my grandmother can travel on a visit visa to my uncle in Qatar - however since that would be a visit visa she'll have to come back after 3 months and by that time my parents would leave too.

 

[scylla]

Can I mention that since my parents moved back to dubai (after retirement), my paternal grandmother now lives with my dad - for couple of months my grandmother can travel on a visit visa to my uncle in Qatar - however since that would be a visit visa she'll have to come back after 3 months and by that time my parents would leave too.

You can certainly try. Not sure it's a very strong argument since your parents have no residence in Dubai. But you can certainly try.

 

[Bryanna]

Can I mention that since my parents moved back to dubai (after retirement), my paternal grandmother now lives with my dad - for couple of months my grandmother can travel on a visit visa to my uncle in Qatar - however since that would be a visit visa she'll have to come back after 3 months and by that time my parents would leave too.

Your grandmom as a family tie does not help because your brother is her Dubai host, not your dad + she has the option of staying in Qatar (even if it is for a few months).

Regardless of super visas or TRVs, your parents have weak applications by way of their ties to both their country of residence (UAE) and home country.

A few suggestions that I can think of:
1. Apply for only one parent initially by indicating the other one as the family tie to return to. Maybe apply first for your mom. When this parent is approved, then take a risk and apply for the other parent (no guarantees the second parent application will be approved).

2. If both parents apply together: Include at least 2-3 really strong reasons with evidence to convince the visa officer they must return to Dubai

3. They must submit all necessary documents to prove they have valid, long-term immigration status in UAE

 

[Bryanna]

@Guiders

Maybe I'm mistaken. Is your brother also a Canadian PR but living in Dubai?

 

[Guiders]

You can certainly try. Not sure it's a very strong argument since your parents have no residence in Dubai. But you can certainly try.

Apologies. I meant Pakistan and not dubai ie. i was wondering if I could mention that parents are now in Pakistan and looking after grandmother. For three months (on visit visa) we can send grandmother to Qatar where my dad’s brother can look after her.

Your grandmom as a family tie does not help because your brother is her Dubai host, not your dad + she has the option of staying in Qatar (even if it is for a few months).

Regardless of super visas or TRVs, your parents have weak applications by way of their ties to both their country of residence (UAE) and home country.

A few suggestions that I can think of:
1. Apply for only one parent initially by indicating the other one as the family tie to return to. Maybe apply first for your mom. When this parent is approved, then take a risk and apply for the other parent (no guarantees the second parent application will be approved).

2. If both parents apply together: Include at least 2-3 really strong reasons with evidence to convince the visa officer they must return to Dubai

3. They must submit all necessary documents to prove they have valid, long-term immigration status in UAE

Thank you Bryanna. I agree that it’s a weak application from ties to home country perspective but not sure how to prove that they’ll return back.

And pretty sure they’ll want to come together or none of them will come. I’ll try to convince though.

@Guiders

Maybe I'm mistaken. Is your brother also a Canadian PR but living in Dubai?

No, my brother is not Canadian or on PR.

 

[scylla]

Apologies. I meant Pakistan and not dubai ie. i was wondering if I could mention that parents are now in Pakistan and looking after grandmother. For three months (on visit visa) we can send grandmother to Qatar where my dad’s brother can look after her.

I don't see how you will support this statement given your parents don't even have a place of residency in Pakistan.

 

[Guiders]

I don't see how you will support this statement given your parents don't even have a place of residency in Pakistan.

True and I understand that. However, I think I'll need to take a risk rather than not applying.

Do you think if I actually purchase a return ticket - will this help? As there's a Required field that says:


Document: Purpose of Travel - Other

You must submit proof that you are coming to Canada for a temporary visit.

Examples of what you can provide as proof:

A scanned copy of:

• Your flight ticket departing Canada,
• Your travel itinerary (e.g. places you will visit or stay, such as hotel booking),
• Proof of a medical appointment

 

[pie_vancouver]

Hi @Bryanna
I came across this reply of yours i.e. "Yes, IRCC does send requests for medical furtherance by post"
Do they mail us or the physician panel? Don't they communicate via email?

Thank you.

In my mom's case, it was email, the email add that your parent will use on the clinic's form.