NOC & Job Reference Letter- Case specific query

[KV_hopeful]

Hi everyone! I have read hundred of posts on this forum and got some some very valuable information! I need assistance with some very specific queries which I am unable to find elsewhere.

My Spouse's ECA report is expected by end of this week & then I will have all information needed to submit my EOI- I expecting close to 470 points. I do not have a job offer or PNP nomination.

I have 6+ years of post qualification skilled work experience, all in a single NOC. My job titles for all three jobs are clear-cut linked to my NOC.

Job A: 3 Years 3 Months. India. MNC with presence in Canada as well. I will receive Job Reference Letter with all required details. R&R will be detailed but will not be a total match for NOC description. Additionally I can provide Contract Copy, Payslips, Tax Returns, Service Letter on resignation.

Job B: 1 Year 6 Months. Same MNC, but UAE Office. Job Reference Letter already obtained. Closely linked to NOC. Additionally, I can provide Contract Copy, Promotion Letter, Pay Slips, Bank Statements.

Job C: Current Job. 1 Year 5 Months & Counting. MNC - UAE. Cannot even request job reference letter from current employer- will be indirectly asked to leave if they know of immigration plans. I can provide Contract Copy, Detailed Job Description signed at the start of employment, Payslips, Bank Statements, Confirmation Letter, Name of employer on Visa in Passport.

My current plan is to put all three employers in EOI. For first two employers, I will submit Job Reference Letter and Supporting documents. For Job C, I will submit the documents I mentioned along with a LOE explaining why I can't provide reference letter. I intend to be fully honest that my current employer does not support immigration plans of active employees and it will be detrimental to my career if I even apply for the same.

Queries:
1) Is any part of my plan ill-advised?
2) Will the honest reason of not even applying for Job Reference Letter at Job C backfire as this may not be common in Canadian work culture?
3) If the Visa Officer is not satisfied with R&R match for any one of my jobs and disregards it and accepts the other two, I will still have 3+ years of skilled work-ex. I have read conflicting views wherein one states that if R&R and NOC don't match for a job, the Visa Officer removes the CRS points for such experience and assess if I still qualify for minimum score. Second view point is that if R&R is not accepted for any of the jobs, application is straightway rejected. Which seems a bit extreme to me since it is a judgement call and I have enough documents to proof existence of these jobs.
4) Should I consider not putting any NOC Code for Job 3 as I cant produce Job reference Letter?
5) For Job 3, I can get an affidavit signed by a colleague (Same level as me- current employee) attesting to my R&R. Would that help?

Apologies for the long drawn out post, but wanted to explain my case in detail.

 

[ContactFront]

If I were you, I'd only claim points for Job A and B, which already give you points for 4+ years of experience.
Personally I wouldn't risk it without a proper reference letter.

 

[Bobbieleigh]

Don't mention your current job in work history in EE profile and you don't have to provide reference letter. You have enough years of work experience from your previous jobs to claim maximum points. It's absolutely fine to do so and no explanation is required.
List your current job in personal history after ITA.

 

[KV_hopeful]

Thank you both- the advice is well noted.

Could you advise if we know more about the approach followed by CIC when, in their assessment, the R&R do not match well enough with NOC Description. Do they exclude that job from work experience and assess if the person still qualifies? Or do they completely reject the application?

(In my example above, it can be assumed that there is sufficient evidence to support job existence, education matches the job area and there is no element of fraud suspicion).

 

[KV_hopeful]

I would like to ask a query in relation to my sister's application. She has been in her current job as Finance Manager (NOC 0111) for almost 5 years. She will be able to obtain a proper job reference letter with detailed R&R, and can provide additional details for this job.

Prior to this she has 3-4 years of work-ex in a related NOC 1111. However, this experience was spread out over different organizations who may or may not provide detailed reference letters with R&R.

1) If she already has 5+ years work experience in the NOC she will apply, can she put all previous jobs in personal history?
2) No one can directly become Finance Manager. Does excluding junior levels jobs in work history have any impact? They will still appear in the personal history.

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

[Bobbieleigh]

Thank you both- the advice is well noted.

Could you advise if we know more about the approach followed by CIC when, in their assessment, the R&R do not match well enough with NOC Description. Do they exclude that job from work experience and assess if the person still qualifies? Or do they completely reject the application?

(In my example above, it can be assumed that there is sufficient evidence to support job existence, education matches the job area and there is no element of fraud suspicion).

If the R&R do not match well enough the application will be rejected. Remember that CIC doesn't care for your job title so if R&R from different NOC match what you do better and it's still in 0, A or B range use it. Eg. I work as medical administrative assistant but my R&Rs match better with administrative assistant (different NOC) so I used it and my application has been approved.

 

[Bobbieleigh]

I would like to ask a query in relation to my sister's application. She has been in her current job as Finance Manager (NOC 0111) for almost 5 years. She will be able to obtain a proper job reference letter with detailed R&R, and can provide additional details for this job.

Prior to this she has 3-4 years of work-ex in a related NOC 1111. However, this experience was spread out over different organizations who may or may not provide detailed reference letters with R&R.

1) If she already has 5+ years work experience in the NOC she will apply, can she put all previous jobs in personal history?
2) No one can directly become Finance Manager. Does excluding junior levels jobs in work history have any impact? They will still appear in the personal history.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Your sister needs to prove minimum 1 year of continuous work experience to qualify and to claim maximum points it is 3 years so the 5+ work experience is enough. The rest she can put in personal history after ITA.

 

[KV_hopeful]

Thanks!

Your sister needs to prove minimum 1 year of continuous work experience to qualify and to claim maximum points it is 3 years so the 5+ work experience is enough. The rest she can put in personal history after ITA.