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Refused case luckily been reopened, new case just submitted currently have 2 EE in progress

Lucky_Reno

Full Member
Jan 25, 2017
47
12
Hi Guys,

as shown as the title, my previous refused case have been luckily reopen by CIC, but I have already submitted another new aplicaiton on June 28,2017 (I receive the invitation and submitted the application at same day).

I submitted my application on March 28,2017, and got the AOR at the same time. Before June 22,2017, everything looks pretty good and smooth. I have passed both my Medical Exam and Background Check.

However, my day turn cloudy on June 22,2017, I got a Refusal Letter from CIC around lunch. According to CIC, the reason is I did not upload enough evidence to prove my skilled work experience that I claim on the application. And it is my own fault, since I found a friend of my family member who is a lawyer to help me to submitted my application. I give him all the required document for the whole application. But due to some reason. he may upload wrong or miss upload the document such as Letter of Employment ,Employment Record ,NOAs and T4s to prove that period experience. So the CIC officer directly refused my application, since he does not satisfy the document I support. (*** of course, he only upload the Job offer for me,what a bad lawyer he is).

After my application got refused, the bad lawyer said there is nothing we can do like appeal or ask for reopen on the case ,but only to re-enter the pool and get be chosen again. I do not 100% listen to him, while I re-enter the pool, I also send both a CSE and email to CPC Ottawa (***since I know my case current is in CPC Ottawa *** ) with the missing document to ask for a reconsideration on June 23,2017.

And on June 28,2017, I got invitation again .Since I have all the document in my hand and all my documentation still valid like Medical Exam and Police Certificate, so I submitted it on the same day that I receive the invitation.

And before I went to bed on June 28, I clearly remmber that my previous case ( ***let us called it Case A and the new submitted one is Case B.) still show REFUSED, but when I got up in the morning on June 29, I receive a message said my Case A had a new update, then I check it, and I found its stats changed to Submitted from Refused which we can understand as Open. After a while, I also receive an Information Letter from CIC said they have received my request for reconsideration, and have viewed my documentation for employment, therefore agree to re-open my case A. What a good new is for the day!

So I need some advice from you guys, since right now I have two express entry right now and both of them are in progress. And both of them are in CEC, so I do not know if the is allowed.

Since if the first one did not got refused, then I can not get the right to re-create another one, and I never think my previous Case A can be re-opened that fast so I have to submit another one. In fact, It only takes them 7 days to decide to re-open my previous case.

And I called CIC, about the two cases situation of me. The agent told me it is my own choice to decide whether to withdraw my second application. According to CIC agent, they do accept multiple application for PR, and they said the Visa officers will process both application at the same time, and technically there will be no conflict for each other, since these are two independent and separately cases. But someday in the future, these two case may get connected or linked at certain stages since my UCI. At that time , they will find out the second one is duplicated, since the first one is much faster and finished most stage, then they will cancel the second one which I submitted on June 29,2017.

But I was told by the bad lawyer said I should wait and see how CIC will deal with 2 case both in process. An according to him "Any further correspondence you have with IRCC could confuse the issues even more, and result in delays."

So I really confused now, I hope my experience can help someone now or maybe in the future.
And I need you guys to give me some advice, what I should do? Wait or withdraw one? Since I can not make sure if the second one will affect my previous case which just been re-opened.
Thanks guys.
 

picklee

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Feb 19, 2017
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If your original application has been reopened, then you should withdraw the second application. The other consideration here is the refund of your fees on the unnecessary second application. This seems like a no-brainer to me.
 
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RyanLee

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May 17, 2017
5
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Almost the exact same thing happened to me however issues with my agent not submitting my statutory declaration of common law caused my application to be rejected. I will be sending that mail to the CIC tomorrow. Is there any specific forma
 

ren4all

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Oct 22, 2017
3
0
Hello Guys,

I am in the same situation and they reopened my application based on appeal but in the reopened application I cannot find a way to process the payment. I need to attach the receipt but in pay your fees section, we dont have option to pay for application fee for the principal applicant.

If anyone knows the procedure to process online payment for reopened application, please share.

Thanks in advance.
 

DelPiero07

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Oct 2, 2016
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Hello Guys,

I am in the same situation and they reopened my application based on appeal but in the reopened application I cannot find a way to process the payment. I need to attach the receipt but in pay your fees section, we dont have option to pay for application fee for the principal applicant.

If anyone knows the procedure to process online payment for reopened application, please share.

Thanks in advance.
Raise a CSE.
 

Raz0r

Hero Member
Jul 9, 2017
696
295
Hello Guys,

I am in the same situation and they reopened my application based on appeal but in the reopened application I cannot find a way to process the payment. I need to attach the receipt but in pay your fees section, we dont have option to pay for application fee for the principal applicant.

If anyone knows the procedure to process online payment for reopened application, please share.

Thanks in advance.
Raise a CSE at the earliest explaining the situation. Good luck.
 

ren4all

Newbie
Oct 22, 2017
3
0
thank you guys... i talked to the customer service call centre...

AS LONG AS THE PAYMENT AMOUNT IS MATCHING, ANY OPTION WE SELECT IN THE PAY YOUR FEES IS ACCEPTABLE
 

all_iz_well

Hero Member
Dec 17, 2014
428
172
So you have 2 applications under process under the same stream? (CEC or FSW).
If thats the case, you need to withdraw your 2nd application.
If you do it before they start processing your application, u might get the fee back.

NB: you can NOT have 2 applications under process under the same stream.
 

ren4all

Newbie
Oct 22, 2017
3
0
how to make repayment there is no option to repay fees
thank you guys... i talked to the customer service call centre...

Go to process payment..

AS LONG AS THE PAYMENT AMOUNT IS MATCHING, ANY OPTION WE SELECT IN THE PAY YOUR FEES IS ACCEPTABLE
 

Ifedede

Full Member
Oct 3, 2017
25
5
Canada
Category........
CEC
NOC Code......
4211, 1242
AOR Received.
14-10-2017
Hi Guys,

as shown as the title, my previous refused case have been luckily reopen by CIC, but I have already submitted another new aplicaiton on June 28,2017 (I receive the invitation and submitted the application at same day).

I submitted my application on March 28,2017, and got the AOR at the same time. Before June 22,2017, everything looks pretty good and smooth. I have passed both my Medical Exam and Background Check.

However, my day turn cloudy on June 22,2017, I got a Refusal Letter from CIC around lunch. According to CIC, the reason is I did not upload enough evidence to prove my skilled work experience that I claim on the application. And it is my own fault, since I found a friend of my family member who is a lawyer to help me to submitted my application. I give him all the required document for the whole application. But due to some reason. he may upload wrong or miss upload the document such as Letter of Employment ,Employment Record ,NOAs and T4s to prove that period experience. So the CIC officer directly refused my application, since he does not satisfy the document I support. (*** of course, he only upload the Job offer for me,what a bad lawyer he is).

After my application got refused, the bad lawyer said there is nothing we can do like appeal or ask for reopen on the case ,but only to re-enter the pool and get be chosen again. I do not 100% listen to him, while I re-enter the pool, I also send both a CSE and email to CPC Ottawa (***since I know my case current is in CPC Ottawa *** ) with the missing document to ask for a reconsideration on June 23,2017.

And on June 28,2017, I got invitation again .Since I have all the document in my hand and all my documentation still valid like Medical Exam and Police Certificate, so I submitted it on the same day that I receive the invitation.

And before I went to bed on June 28, I clearly remmber that my previous case ( ***let us called it Case A and the new submitted one is Case B.) still show REFUSED, but when I got up in the morning on June 29, I receive a message said my Case A had a new update, then I check it, and I found its stats changed to Submitted from Refused which we can understand as Open. After a while, I also receive an Information Letter from CIC said they have received my request for reconsideration, and have viewed my documentation for employment, therefore agree to re-open my case A. What a good new is for the day!

So I need some advice from you guys, since right now I have two express entry right now and both of them are in progress. And both of them are in CEC, so I do not know if the is allowed.

Since if the first one did not got refused, then I can not get the right to re-create another one, and I never think my previous Case A can be re-opened that fast so I have to submit another one. In fact, It only takes them 7 days to decide to re-open my previous case.

And I called CIC, about the two cases situation of me. The agent told me it is my own choice to decide whether to withdraw my second application. According to CIC agent, they do accept multiple application for PR, and they said the Visa officers will process both application at the same time, and technically there will be no conflict for each other, since these are two independent and separately cases. But someday in the future, these two case may get connected or linked at certain stages since my UCI. At that time , they will find out the second one is duplicated, since the first one is much faster and finished most stage, then they will cancel the second one which I submitted on June 29,2017.

But I was told by the bad lawyer said I should wait and see how CIC will deal with 2 case both in process. An according to him "Any further correspondence you have with IRCC could confuse the issues even more, and result in delays."

So I really confused now, I hope my experience can help someone now or maybe in the future.
And I need you guys to give me some advice, what I should do? Wait or withdraw one? Since I can not make sure if the second one will affect my previous case which just been re-opened.
Thanks guys.
Hi I was wondering what your decision was and the outcome.

Thanks.
 

Vancouver92

Newbie
Nov 20, 2018
3
0
Hi everyone,

Looking for more advice, mine and my partners common law PR application was just refused due to an issue with the NOC code, we are hoping to reopen the case as it looks like an error on their part. What is the standard wait time?
We are currently in Canada, our IEC expired at the start of the month and we were waiting on our bridging visa and our now rejected PR, does anyone know if we still have implied status? Both our bridging visa are still showing as in process, I understand these will likely be rejected but I want to get an idea of where we can go from here?

Thank you!
 

S@r@b

Hero Member
Feb 26, 2020
375
103
Hi Guys,

as shown as the title, my previous refused case have been luckily reopen by CIC, but I have already submitted another new aplicaiton on June 28,2017 (I receive the invitation and submitted the application at same day).

I submitted my application on March 28,2017, and got the AOR at the same time. Before June 22,2017, everything looks pretty good and smooth. I have passed both my Medical Exam and Background Check.

However, my day turn cloudy on June 22,2017, I got a Refusal Letter from CIC around lunch. According to CIC, the reason is I did not upload enough evidence to prove my skilled work experience that I claim on the application. And it is my own fault, since I found a friend of my family member who is a lawyer to help me to submitted my application. I give him all the required document for the whole application. But due to some reason. he may upload wrong or miss upload the document such as Letter of Employment ,Employment Record ,NOAs and T4s to prove that period experience. So the CIC officer directly refused my application, since he does not satisfy the document I support. (*** of course, he only upload the Job offer for me,what a bad lawyer he is).

After my application got refused, the bad lawyer said there is nothing we can do like appeal or ask for reopen on the case ,but only to re-enter the pool and get be chosen again. I do not 100% listen to him, while I re-enter the pool, I also send both a CSE and email to CPC Ottawa (***since I know my case current is in CPC Ottawa *** ) with the missing document to ask for a reconsideration on June 23,2017.

And on June 28,2017, I got invitation again .Since I have all the document in my hand and all my documentation still valid like Medical Exam and Police Certificate, so I submitted it on the same day that I receive the invitation.

And before I went to bed on June 28, I clearly remmber that my previous case ( ***let us called it Case A and the new submitted one is Case B.) still show REFUSED, but when I got up in the morning on June 29, I receive a message said my Case A had a new update, then I check it, and I found its stats changed to Submitted from Refused which we can understand as Open. After a while, I also receive an Information Letter from CIC said they have received my request for reconsideration, and have viewed my documentation for employment, therefore agree to re-open my case A. What a good new is for the day!

So I need some advice from you guys, since right now I have two express entry right now and both of them are in progress. And both of them are in CEC, so I do not know if the is allowed.


Since if the first one did not got refused, then I can not get the right to re-create another one, and I never think my previous Case A can be re-opened that fast so I have to submit another one. In fact, It only takes them 7 days to decide to re-open my previous case.

And I called CIC, about the two cases situation of me. The agent told me it is my own choice to decide whether to withdraw my second application. According to CIC agent, they do accept multiple application for PR, and they said the Visa officers will process both application at the same time, and technically there will be no conflict for each other, since these are two independent and separately cases. But someday in the future, these two case may get connected or linked at certain stages since my UCI. At that time , they will find out the second one is duplicated, since the first one is much faster and finished most stage, then they will cancel the second one which I submitted on June 29,2017.

But I was told by the bad lawyer said I should wait and see how CIC will deal with 2 case both in process. An according to him "Any further correspondence you have with IRCC could confuse the issues even more, and result in delays."

So I really confused now, I hope my experience can help someone now or maybe in the future.
And I need you guys to give me some advice, what I should do? Wait or withdraw one? Since I can not make sure if the second one will affect my previous case which just been re-opened.
Thanks guys.
Hey
Same happened with me also,
my application also got rejected because i didn’t uploaded the experience letter asked by cic. I submitted the application in jan 2020, can i request cic to reopen now? Its almost 3 month gone