Flagpole landing and other application questions

[Together]

I did flagpole landing, should I indicate that date as a trip in the residence calculator? On the one hand, I did not enter US, but on another, I left Canada. I know, that same day trips do not count as an absence, but they still have to be shown.
So, should I indicate the flagpole landing as a trip?

 

[canvis2006]

No, because you're back the same day and did not enter the USA.

Did they(americans) put an entry/exit stamps in your passport ? Did you have a US visa?

No need, they can tell the landing.....

 

[Natan]

If you did an actual flagpole, then you left Canada and entered the USA, because you crossed the actual border, even if you didn't get as far as the U.S. customs plaza.

I think you should declare this on your application.

 

[Sep2017]

I did flagpole landing, should I indicate that date as a trip in the residence calculator? On the one hand, I did not enter US, but on another, I left Canada. I know, that same day trips do not count as an absence, but they still have to be shown.
So, should I indicate the flagpole landing as a trip?

My understanding is when you left Canada for Flagpoloing you were not a permanent resident at that point. They ask you declare trips after you became PR

But if you are applying after oct 11 the rules might be different and you might have to declare residency before you became a pr to get credit

 

[Together]

I am applying according to the new rules.
I didn't have a US visa at the moment of landing. I left Canada, was denied entry to the US and came back to Canada. I know that this day is not an absence, as I came back the same day. However, the requirement is to list all the absences from Canada, even same-day trips. I do not understand what I have to indicate as destination country in the calculator. Technically, destination country is Canada and I didn't enter any other country that day.

 

[Natan]

I am applying according to the new rules.
I didn't have a US visa at the moment of landing. I left Canada, was denied entry to the US and came back to Canada. I know that this day is not an absence, as I came back the same day. However, the requirement is to list all the absences from Canada, even same-day trips. I do not understand what I have to indicate as destination country in the calculator. Technically, destination country is Canada and I didn't enter any other country that day.

You entered the USA, as established by the fact that the US denied you entry into America. As you were flagpoling, you crossed the border into the USA before you entered the American customs plaza. You therefore exited Canada and entered the USA. Your destination country was "USA".

 

[user828]

Good question, my folks had similar situation