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Citizenship Applications after Bill C-6

missmini

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Oct 6, 2009
1,777
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Visa Office......
Amman
App. Filed.......
01-2012
Doc's Request.
05-2012 (CSQ approved)
AOR Received.
07-2012
File Transfer...
04-2012
Med's Done....
11-2011 (extended until 11-2013)
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
02-2013 (finalyyyyyy)
LANDED..........
07-2013 (DONE - thank u all :):):))
The form is still being updated? I wonder what's being changed... !!!
it seems so yes; the latest form seems more secure, so far we did not see difference in questions;
anyway, it's better to fill the latest forms always! :)
 
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missmini

Champion Member
Oct 6, 2009
1,777
71
Visa Office......
Amman
App. Filed.......
01-2012
Doc's Request.
05-2012 (CSQ approved)
AOR Received.
07-2012
File Transfer...
04-2012
Med's Done....
11-2011 (extended until 11-2013)
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
02-2013 (finalyyyyyy)
LANDED..........
07-2013 (DONE - thank u all :):):))
Thanks for your reply,
For some complicated reasons I can't renew my passport in Canada (our embassy is closed), but I am working since two years before the expiration date of my passeport, so I hope that will be Ok.
i totally understand you! i would write a short explanation letter on why the passport is not renewed; tell us how it went; good luck!
 

missmini

Champion Member
Oct 6, 2009
1,777
71
Visa Office......
Amman
App. Filed.......
01-2012
Doc's Request.
05-2012 (CSQ approved)
AOR Received.
07-2012
File Transfer...
04-2012
Med's Done....
11-2011 (extended until 11-2013)
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
02-2013 (finalyyyyyy)
LANDED..........
07-2013 (DONE - thank u all :):):))
Any document with an expired date is not a document at all. Expired Passport is also not a proof of identity. It should be valid on date of application.
Last March my Driving licence was expiring next day. Air Travel agent told me I cannot use this as identity proof during travel.
Its better to consult an Authorized Immigration consultant whether expired passport copy will be acceptable to CIC
i'm sure cic knows that for example a Syrian citizen with most embassies/consulates closed and no travel plan back to Syria cannot renew the passport easy; each situation is different
 
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RanRan

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Any document with an expired date is not a document at all. Expired Passport is also not a proof of identity. It should be valid on date of application.
Last March my Driving licence was expiring next day. Air Travel agent told me I cannot use this as identity proof during travel.
Its better to consult an Authorized Immigration consultant whether expired passport copy will be acceptable to CIC
Well, many applicants are refugees who can't and shouldn't renew their passports
 
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ottawahd

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Does anybody knows if the Discover Canada - The Rights and Responsibilities of Citizenship is changing after bill c-6 comes into effect?
Well the answer is yes and no.
The citizenship guide book has been under review and will change later but it has nothing to do with bill c6. In fact no legislation is required to change that book and the test.
Look at https://www.google.com/amp/nationalpost.com/news/canada/taxes-census-treaties-described-as-obligations-of-citizenship-in-new-guide/amp
 
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cempjwi

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Mar 14, 2012
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CANADA
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
App. Filed.......
31-Jul-12
Doc's Request.
09-Feb-13; Sent 13-Mar-13
AOR Received.
15-Oct-12; In-process 26-Mar-13
File Transfer...
15-Oct-12
Med's Request
02-Apr-13 Chest Xray Only
Med's Done....
14-May-12; 04-Apr-13 (Delivered 15-Apr-13)
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
19-Apr-2013
VISA ISSUED...
19-Apr-2013 (Rcvd May 15th, 2013)
LANDED..........
1-July-2013
Any document with an expired date is not a document at all. Expired Passport is also not a proof of identity. It should be valid on date of application.
Last March my Driving licence was expiring next day. Air Travel agent told me I cannot use this as identity proof during travel.
Its better to consult an Authorized Immigration consultant whether expired passport copy will be acceptable to CIC
The context for requiring current and expired passports and travel documents is not that of identity. The context of that request is to have support for the time spent in Canada (by using the document info to verify against border control systems). Therefore, for the context of travel support, expired passports are enough.

Do not confuse identity verification with any other process. In the context of identity verification for the application, you do not prove identity with your passport (expired or not) or with any other documents, including your PR card, DL or health card. Any documentation you submit is to support the information on the application (as no one can prove it was you who applied). Identity verification is done personally with CIC, when you have your interview/test. Until then, documents you send are just supporting information needs for other processes.

So, no, a passport does not have to be valid (that is, it can be expired) to apply (in fact, your PR can also be expired); however, if the person does not have a current valid passport, the person must explain why. Some countries will deny passports to persons with criminal backgrounds or under criminal investigations, and CIC will try to learn that.

The air travel agent is stepping his boundaries. If your DL is valid, it is valid to travel, it does not matter when it expires. They are trained to reject expired travel documents for many reasons; identity verification is not one of them. Just because your document is expired it does not mean you stopped being you (which is the whole purpose of identity verification, to learn if the carrier of the document is the person for which the document was issued). Identity verification can be exercised with an expired document. However, you are not allowed to travel on expired documents because there are many reasons why a person may not be allowed to renew a document and that is exactly the main concern. A person with an expired document is deemed to have been denied the right to renew that document, which is a risk, and that risk is the reason for not being allowed to travel on expired documents.
 
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migrant-seeker

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I appreciate the valuable information and support provided in this forum. Can I please seek your support in two points regarding citizenship application?
I am preparing my application package for myself and my son (8 years old) only because my wife does not want to apply for Canadian citizenship because she already has a European citizenship so she prefers to have only PR status in Canada.
My first question is regarding my son (minor, 8 years old): I will apply for myself and my son only so is it enough for me to sign his application form (minor) Besides signing my own application as well OR I will need his mother as well to sign his application form (in addition to my signature) although that she is not applying for citizenship?
My second question is that do we need to provide an explanation letter as to why my wife does not wish to apply for citizenship?
Thank you in advance
 
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missmini

Champion Member
Oct 6, 2009
1,777
71
Visa Office......
Amman
App. Filed.......
01-2012
Doc's Request.
05-2012 (CSQ approved)
AOR Received.
07-2012
File Transfer...
04-2012
Med's Done....
11-2011 (extended until 11-2013)
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
02-2013 (finalyyyyyy)
LANDED..........
07-2013 (DONE - thank u all :):):))
I appreciate the valuable information and support provided in this forum. Can I please seek your support in two points regarding citizenship application?
I am preparing my application package for myself and my son (8 years old) only because my wife does not want to apply for Canadian citizenship because she already has a European citizenship so she prefers to have only PR status in Canada.
My first question is regarding my son (minor, 8 years old): I will apply for myself and my son only so is it enough for me to sign his application form (minor) Besides signing my own application as well OR I will need his mother as well to sign his application form (in addition to my signature) although that she is not applying for citizenship?
My second question is that do we need to provide an explanation letter as to why my wife does not wish to apply for citizenship?
Thank you in advance
for question 2 is no; some people apply separately as soon as each gets the required 3 or 4 years; for others their reason was if cic processes one slower, it won't slow down the others
as for question 1, my guess would be just the signature of one adult is fine, but not sure; read carefully the guidelines or even call them if still in doubt; good luck!
 
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mg7

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Guys, I just (last week) completed the 4 years out of 6 years to become eligible to apply for Canadian Citizenship. My wife & daughter have already applied for citizenship & have received AOR.

With the speculation around implementation of C-6 in Fall (Sept 21st), I am tempted to wait for a few more days so that there is absolutely no chance that I fall short of days & I am able to prove that I have much more than met the requirement of physical presence.

That said, the implementation of 3/5 rule could take several more weeks & things could drag all the way into December for CIC to start accepting applications. With that possibility, I wonder whether or not it is worth the while to apply now under the 4 year rule that I qualify under as well.

It is my belief that many people in anticipation of the implementation of Bill C6 have stopped sending their citizenship applications & this will probably expedite the processing of applications made in 4/6 rule. Plus, once CIC starts accepting applications under 3/5 rule - there will be a mad rush from all those applicants that suddenly become eligible (applicants that were otherwise going to wait for 1 more year).

I wonder whether CIC is already looks for only 3 years of physical presence in even an application made under the 4/6 rule. CIC may only be accepting application from people that have met 4 years of physical presence in the last 6 years however they may apply the stringent physical presence test only to the extent of 3 years.

The point to keep in mind is that Bill C-6 has already been passed & any application that CIC challenges solely for lets say a few days short from 4 years cannot be refused.

I am not sure whether or not my thinking is appropriate & would like others to comment.
 
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