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OINP employer job offer stream 2017

dh5689

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Aug 20, 2014
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Hi there,

My employer is in Ontario and running a Mac's convenience store. This is convenience store so employees didn't work to long with him due to busy work environment .

As per employer job offer stream, employer must have 3 permanent employees to be qualify for this stream. What factors do they consider for this permanent employees clause?

Should they work whole previous year for qualifying as permanent employees??

Please provide some information on this as my employer is really confuse about this.

Thanks
 

JJang

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Jul 6, 2017
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Updated timeline:

Application: June 19
Assessment: June 23
Awaiting Information: July 7
Submission of company documents: July 12
DIP: Aug 30
 
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TommySan

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Dear friends,

I got nominated today! :)

The case went from DIP to nominated. Not sure if it was "approved" before on the same day, but, whatever, nominated it is!

I'll post the updated timeline later.
 
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TommySan

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Hi there,

My employer is in Ontario and running a Mac's convenience store. This is convenience store so employees didn't work to long with him due to busy work environment .

As per employer job offer stream, employer must have 3 permanent employees to be qualify for this stream. What factors do they consider for this permanent employees clause?

Should they work whole previous year for qualifying as permanent employees??

Please provide some information on this as my employer is really confuse about this.

Thanks
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They are "permanent residents" or Canadians.

Also, the company must make at least 500k/year or 1.5 mi if in the GTA.

If your employer does not meet the criteria, you might lose $1,500 of your application, which is non-refundable, so, make sure you understand it all well enough.

The express entry is a more straightforward process. All you have to do is get at least 400 points, and you can improve your score with a skilled trades certificate and so on. Google Comprehensive Ranking System - CRS.
 

TommySan

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Updated timeline:

Application: July 27
Assessment: Aug 15
Awaiting Information: Aug 17
ADR? No.
DIP: Aug 24
Nomination: Aug 31st
 

dh5689

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They are "permanent residents" or Canadians.

Also, the company must make at least 500k/year or 1.5 mi if in the GTA.

If your employer does not meet the criteria, you might lose $1,500 of your application, which is non-refundable, so, make sure you understand it all well enough.

The express entry is a more straightforward process. All you have to do is get at least 400 points, and you can improve your score with a skilled trades certificate and so on. Google Comprehensive Ranking System - CRS.
Thanks mate for reply and Congratulation for your Nomination.!!

He is hiring all Canadians but they never work more than 6 months.. so do they consider Permanent employees ??

Do we have any time frame for measuring this condition? i.e if employees work minimum X hours then they will consider as permanent employees??
He is making 500k/year and his business in North part of Ontario where hard to get employees.
 

TommySan

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My status was changed to 'Nominated', you can check it. I think we status was changed same day.
Congratulations!

Yes, we were probably on the same batch, or at the same position in line. However, I waited a week or so to go from DIP to nominated. You were much faster!

Update you immitracker if you have one.
 

TommySan

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Thanks mate for reply and Congratulation for your Nomination.!!

He is hiring all Canadians but they never work more than 6 months.. so do they consider Permanent employees ??

Do we have any time frame for measuring this condition? i.e if employees work minimum X hours then they will consider as permanent employees??
He is making 500k/year and his business in North part of Ontario where hard to get employees.
It all revolves on 1) immigrants not taking jobs from Canadians, because that is not what they want, 2) Inviting qualified candidates, and 3) to avoid fraudulent cases (ex.: cases where someone decides to hire a bunch of fellow countrymen, family or friends from a country where you previously lived, as that is characterized as an immigration business and hurts and delays everyone's else applications).

Here is the answer you need: He must have 3 Canadians or PRs working for him FT (30 h/week), at the same conditions as you. It is not clear if it can change after you get nominated (1-3 months), but it makes sense that he maintains these conditions during the whole time from your PNP application to PR, something around 18 months.

When you get a nomination, if the conditions for your nomination change (example, you move, change employer, have a kid) you must communicate that to the federal government during all your application, and you might get rejected.

In this case, if the employer has 3 Canadians + you today, you are eligible. If you get the nomination and on the next day/month he has 4 Immigrants working for him, that would be a problem and your conditions for nomination are no longer valid, and the federal government might refuse your application. I don't know how they could verify that.

It would be good, in this case, if your employer has 4 FT Canadians, 1 as a backup.

What they do in cases like this is they hold your application for a while and keep contacting your employer.

I would say the best solution is sending additional documentation:
1) an honest letter of explanation saying employees go in and out fast, showing also that they profit the local average, otherwise they leave the job because the conditions suck, and that would raise flags,
2) documents showing how many employees got in and out of the company on the last 2-3 years to take an average and prove how long is the employment cycle
3) your employer could write a commitment to always hire new Canadians or PR in case the conditions change (keeping the proportion of 3 Canadians to 1 immigrants). So if it happens, they hire a new Canadian as soon as possible, and if someone assess your application later, neither you nor your employer will be found at fault.
4)The fact that it is in northern Ontario could weigh in your favor.
 
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