PNP Outland AOR 2016-2017 let's connect here for timelines
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Long waits for PNP used to be the case in past but from July onwards R10, Criminality and Medicals are taking on average 25 days to complete (pass). This means PNP applications are opened much earlier than before and initial steps are completed on time.
I was told that immigration Analyst cannot start eligibility Test for PNP applications without a verification from Province which takes a lot of time. They usually send applicants names and codes on monthly basis and Provinces return verifications on monthly basis as well. This was the main cause in the past for delayed eligibility tests. Although, it is similar but data exchange is made online which will save time. It was suggested that on average it is expected to take 45 days to complete eligibility process as compare 90 days in the past.
Taking these two changes in mind I expect PNP applications from July and Onwards to be processed within 4 months as compare to 6-8 months from the previous months.
Other than that I have seen that Provincial Nominations itself are processed much faster than before. It is now taking on average 2-3 months as compare to 9-12 months a year ago.
From 2018 onwards target of Provinces is to process applications within 45 days whereas for CIC target is to process within 90 days for PNP and 45 days for FSW.
Recently a very positive economic prospect report is presented to government and growing number of employment needs is pushing CIC to process applications faster to meet market needs.
Reports also expected the record number of Skilled Migrants to enter Canada in 2018 & 2019 and CIC is asked to clear backlogs before the next years plans are implemented. It is expected that 90%+ applications from 2017 will be processed by first quarter of 2018.
However, any applications before July will be processed as normal and will take on average 7-8 months to be processed.
I hope this information will be helpful.
I was told that immigration Analyst cannot start eligibility Test for PNP applications without a verification from Province which takes a lot of time. They usually send applicants names and codes on monthly basis and Provinces return verifications on monthly basis as well. This was the main cause in the past for delayed eligibility tests. Although, it is similar but data exchange is made online which will save time. It was suggested that on average it is expected to take 45 days to complete eligibility process as compare 90 days in the past.
Taking these two changes in mind I expect PNP applications from July and Onwards to be processed within 4 months as compare to 6-8 months from the previous months.
Other than that I have seen that Provincial Nominations itself are processed much faster than before. It is now taking on average 2-3 months as compare to 9-12 months a year ago.
From 2018 onwards target of Provinces is to process applications within 45 days whereas for CIC target is to process within 90 days for PNP and 45 days for FSW.
Recently a very positive economic prospect report is presented to government and growing number of employment needs is pushing CIC to process applications faster to meet market needs.
Reports also expected the record number of Skilled Migrants to enter Canada in 2018 & 2019 and CIC is asked to clear backlogs before the next years plans are implemented. It is expected that 90%+ applications from 2017 will be processed by first quarter of 2018.
However, any applications before July will be processed as normal and will take on average 7-8 months to be processed.
I hope this information will be helpful.
Yes the total time is a long one
That I don't know. BG started on the 18th is all I know. Only notes can tell SS
friends, please help me to clear this doubt as am going to Submit my application today
Firstly we are two applicants . The requirement for POF is 15312. I decalred in EE that i will get 15500 while coming to canada.
1. I am showing total Proof of funds through gift deed from my mother which is eight lakhs
2. I am submitting this gift deed and a balance certificate from a bank which is showing that i have around 15932$ in the account as of today date.
3. Do you guys think this will suffice.
4. Do they calculate the POF by looking at the bank certificate or do they just convert the funds which i got from gift deed.
Finally, Do i need to submit 6 months statement along with gift deed + balance certificate.
Firstly we are two applicants . The requirement for POF is 15312. I decalred in EE that i will get 15500 while coming to canada.
1. I am showing total Proof of funds through gift deed from my mother which is eight lakhs
2. I am submitting this gift deed and a balance certificate from a bank which is showing that i have around 15932$ in the account as of today date.
3. Do you guys think this will suffice.
4. Do they calculate the POF by looking at the bank certificate or do they just convert the funds which i got from gift deed.
Finally, Do i need to submit 6 months statement along with gift deed + balance certificate.
Guys I am worried, I received ADR and IP1 on Aug21, submitted the ADR on Aug22 and no medical passed yet. I see normally people get medicals updated after a couple of days of submitting the ADR. AOR June 20
Chente generally check with the clinic where you got the Medicals done. I read in one of the posts that an applicant was able to check if any additional tests or re-submission from clinic to CIC were required. You might get some information on medicals
Hey called them a couple of weeks ago, before receive UCI. They told me that all the test were ok and they submitted to Canada on June 8th. THey also told me that in case of some problem with the test they would called me before submit.
I was just going through the tracker. No movement has happened in terms of medical from past 3-4 days. Its just not you so don't worry. Wait for couple of more days and try reaching CIC if you feel so.
Hi, I came across this post from legalfalcon and I thought its a very good read to get an idea on how our applications are processed. As mentioned, this is a general idea, it does not necessarily mean your file goes through it too....Source:http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/aor-in-september-lets-connect-here.347846/page-376#post-5068134
As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.
The anatomy of an standard application is as follows:
1. Enter the EE pool.
2. Receive the ITA.
3. File application and supporting documents.
4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.
5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).
6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicants age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score is affected. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here.
7. At the R10 review if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.
8. Usually by this stage the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a re-assesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.
8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send you application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.
9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.
10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.
11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.
Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal application which is still in progress.
This is only for information to provide a picture about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.
This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.
But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have. Don't be a parasite.
As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.
The anatomy of an standard application is as follows:
1. Enter the EE pool.
2. Receive the ITA.
3. File application and supporting documents.
4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.
5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).
6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicants age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score is affected. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here.
7. At the R10 review if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.
8. Usually by this stage the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a re-assesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.
8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send you application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.
9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.
10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.
11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.
Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal application which is still in progress.
This is only for information to provide a picture about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.
This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.
But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have. Don't be a parasite.
My AOR 21 March 2017
OINP nomination in Jan 2017
Medical passed in June
No update after that
Please add me to what's app group
OINP nomination in Jan 2017
Medical passed in June
No update after that
Please add me to what's app group