PCC from SAUDI ARABIA

[midnightfalcon]

Ok guys, this is what then CIC website states.

Since my wife works there, she has a residency permit (IQMA)

Therefore for people with legal residency permit

"
If you live in Saudi Arabia:

A police certificate request letter will be sent to you by mail after your application for Permanent Residence has been received. You must present this letter, along with valid identification and proof of legal residency in Saudi Arabia to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. If they approve you, the letter will give you the address to the police headquarters where you must go and apply in person.

If your application is being processed at the Canadian High Commission in London, you are not required to get a police certificate until the London visa office sends you a police certificate request letter with instructions on how to apply.

For applications being processed at any other office, request letters can be requested by e-mail: riyadh.visa@international.gc.ca or fax: 966-1-488-9657. Please include the file number, the office where you applied and your mailing address.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/mid-east/saudi-arabia.asp#cit-inside

 

[midnightfalcon]

On the basis of this, my application is not being processed at London Office. It will be processed at Mumbai office. That means I will have to send them a request at the email address or fax number. However, all this has to be done at the time of submitting the documents or CIC will send me this letter. This is very confusing!

 

[canada_dreamer]

Under express entry you MUST submit pcc for all adult members in your application where you/they have resided for more than 6 months combined. Otherwise you will have your application rejected. Missing/incomplete pcc or pcc not meeting the exact criteria required by cic/ircc is the #1 reason for denials. Don't take the risk of taking random advice from people. Do some research yourself. Ircc has one touch policy to meet their requirement of processing applications within 6 months. They no longer ask you for medicals/pcc after submission of application, unless processing your application took longer than expected and your pcc/medical expired. Visit cic website and research pcc. They have all the country specific details you need for obtaining a pcc.

 

[midnightfalcon]

I completely understand the importance of PCC for every applicant.

I being in Mumbai, will be able to get the PCC without any problem.

My wife being Indian citizen, working in Jeddah - Saudi Arabia would require PCC from both countries.

But but but, this is what CIC website states

How to Get a Police Certificate - Saudi Arabia
2017-03-17
Do I need to provide a Police Certificate with my Application for Permanent Residence? No. Citizenship and Immigration Canada will send you a letter requesting a police certificate after you send your Application for Permanent Residence. You must bring that letter when you apply for a Police Certificate.

 

[midnightfalcon]

Here is where the massive confusion is.

PCC for Saudi Arabia should be given at the time of document submission of PR

Or do I submit only INDIA PCC for both of us and then in the Letter of Expression mention that wife is working in Saudi Arabia, and request for Letter from CIC

OR Will CIC send me a request letter and then I have to avail the PCC from Saudi Arabia.

So which is the correct way?

 

[Fishal2017]

Here is where the massive confusion is.

PCC for Saudi Arabia should be given at the time of document submission of PR

Or do I submit only INDIA PCC for both of us and then in the Letter of Expression mention that wife is working in Saudi Arabia, and request for Letter from CIC

OR Will CIC send me a request letter and then I have to avail the PCC from Saudi Arabia.

So which is the correct way?

I would suggest the same as @Canada Dreamer, don't rely on information provided by others , every case is different and everyone has limited knowledge , whatever they know is based on their personal experience and case.
No one for sure knows all the rules except CIC.
Better to take legal advise or contact CIC directly with your queries.
Don't delay your paperwork and something as important as PCC.
Al the best.

 

[thestunner316]

Here is where the massive confusion is.

PCC for Saudi Arabia should be given at the time of document submission of PR

Or do I submit only INDIA PCC for both of us and then in the Letter of Expression mention that wife is working in Saudi Arabia, and request for Letter from CIC

OR Will CIC send me a request letter and then I have to avail the PCC from Saudi Arabia.

So which is the correct way?

Recd reply from a friend who applied for Saudi PCC 3 months back.

"I applied for a letter from my Embassy that I want Saudi PCC for Canadian immigration. This was after ITA, before AOR.

I got this letter from the Embassy and got it stamped from MOFA. Next I went to the criminal evidence department police and presented my docs (Embassy letter with MOFA stamp, residence permit, passport, photographs). They took my finger prints and issued me a PCC in 1 week."

hope this helps.

 

[midnightfalcon]

Recd reply from a friend who applied for Saudi PCC 3 months back.

"I applied for a letter from my Embassy that I want Saudi PCC for Canadian immigration. This was after ITA, before AOR.

I got this letter from the Embassy and got it stamped from MOFA. Next I went to the criminal evidence department police and presented my docs (Embassy letter with MOFA stamp, residence permit, passport, photographs). They took my finger prints and issued me a PCC in 1 week."

hope this helps.

Thank you so much for your reply.

This means I don't wait for any letter from CIC.

The CIC website states that they will issue letter then one should proceed to Canadian Embassy in Riyadh.

Is there anywhere / any how I could contact CIC .. for this..

 

[thestunner316]

Thank you so much for your reply.

This means I don't wait for any letter from CIC.

The CIC website states that they will issue letter then one should proceed to Canadian Embassy in Riyadh.

Is there anywhere / any how I could contact CIC .. for this..

email or web form. its there on IRCC website.

 

[beemir]

midnightfalcon...what did you, or will you, end up doing? I am in a similar boat as you and between the post-ITA and pre-AOR phase. What the CIC website states is for PCC from Saudi Arabia:

Special notes and considerations

Do I need to provide a Police Certificate for Express Entry?

Yes, but only after you submit your application. When you apply for permanent residence, you will be asked to upload a police certificate. Instead, you must upload a document that states: “I am applying from a country that requires an official request letter from IRCC to get a police certificate.”

We will then review your application. If it is otherwise complete, we will send you more information on how to get a police certificate. Please read the instructions above for more information.

We will not accept police certificates sent by mail for Express Entry applications.​

Now some on the forum have been proactive and contacted the Canadian Embassy in Saudi Arabia and requested the letter that is required to obtain a PCC in Saudi (but as far as I have read they state they are going with a paper application? Not sure if this makes a difference). I'm not sure which approach to take. This is concerning because of the total number of days required for submitting the application post-ITA.

There are two scenarios here:

1) Contact the Canadian Embassy and get the letter and follow the rest of the process and eventually get the PCC. The time taken will eat up from the number of days you have left to submit your post-ITA application.

2) When submitting the post-ITA application, follow what the CIC site states and upload a document saying "I am applying from a country that requires an official request letter..." This approach means you have submitted your application and your countdown is done. Now you have to wait for CIC to get back to you so in a way it buys time? I'm not sure about this but hopefully someone with past experience can clarify.

What do you guys reckon? Again, thanks for your time in advance.

 

[thestunner316]

midnightfalcon...what did you, or will you, end up doing? I am in a similar boat as you and between the post-ITA and pre-AOR phase. What the CIC website states is for PCC from Saudi Arabia:

Special notes and considerations

Do I need to provide a Police Certificate for Express Entry?

Yes, but only after you submit your application. When you apply for permanent residence, you will be asked to upload a police certificate. Instead, you must upload a document that states: “I am applying from a country that requires an official request letter from IRCC to get a police certificate.”

We will then review your application. If it is otherwise complete, we will send you more information on how to get a police certificate. Please read the instructions above for more information.

We will not accept police certificates sent by mail for Express Entry applications.​

Now some on the forum have been proactive and contacted the Canadian Embassy in Saudi Arabia and requested the letter that is required to obtain a PCC in Saudi (but as far as I have read they state they are going with a paper application? Not sure if this makes a difference). I'm not sure which approach to take. This is concerning because of the total number of days required for submitting the application post-ITA.

There are two scenarios here:

1) Contact the Canadian Embassy and get the letter and follow the rest of the process and eventually get the PCC. The time taken will eat up from the number of days you have left to submit your post-ITA application.

2) When submitting the post-ITA application, follow what the CIC site states and upload a document saying "I am applying from a country that requires an official request letter..." This approach means you have submitted your application and your countdown is done. Now you have to wait for CIC to get back to you so in a way it buys time? I'm not sure about this but hopefully someone with past experience can clarify.

What do you guys reckon? Again, thanks for your time in advance.

looking at CIC website now, i think either option is fine.

Personally i would submit PCC upfront, saves a lot of time... but its upto you really.

 

[beemir]

looking at CIC website now, i think either option is fine.

Personally i would submit PCC upfront, saves a lot of time... but its upto you really.

Upfront it is then. I'm all for saving time and the more important thing, avoiding potential delays and rejections. Yeah that's a big no no. Now we just have to figure out how to get these letters for EE purposes.

EDIT: Does anyone know what we have to email the Canadian embassy in Saudi to obtain these letters? Full name of principal and accompanying spouse/dependents over 18 are a given but they mention file number. Is this the EE file number? Or is this a file number you receive once you've submitted everything post-ITA? I wonder what other information is required. Someone who has received one in the past recently could possibly help and chime in.

 

[midnightfalcon]

midnightfalcon...what did you, or will you, end up doing? I am in a similar boat as you and between the post-ITA and pre-AOR phase. What the CIC website states is for PCC from Saudi Arabia:

Special notes and considerations

Do I need to provide a Police Certificate for Express Entry?

Yes, but only after you submit your application. When you apply for permanent residence, you will be asked to upload a police certificate. Instead, you must upload a document that states: “I am applying from a country that requires an official request letter from IRCC to get a police certificate.”

We will then review your application. If it is otherwise complete, we will send you more information on how to get a police certificate. Please read the instructions above for more information.

We will not accept police certificates sent by mail for Express Entry applications.​

Now some on the forum have been proactive and contacted the Canadian Embassy in Saudi Arabia and requested the letter that is required to obtain a PCC in Saudi (but as far as I have read they state they are going with a paper application? Not sure if this makes a difference). I'm not sure which approach to take. This is concerning because of the total number of days required for submitting the application post-ITA.

There are two scenarios here:

1) Contact the Canadian Embassy and get the letter and follow the rest of the process and eventually get the PCC. The time taken will eat up from the number of days you have left to submit your post-ITA application.

2) When submitting the post-ITA application, follow what the CIC site states and upload a document saying "I am applying from a country that requires an official request letter..." This approach means you have submitted your application and your countdown is done. Now you have to wait for CIC to get back to you so in a way it buys time? I'm not sure about this but hopefully someone with past experience can clarify.

What do you guys reckon? Again, thanks for your time in advance.

midnightfalcon...what did you, or will you, end up doing? I am in a similar boat as you and between the post-ITA and pre-AOR phase. What the CIC website states is for PCC from Saudi Arabia:

Special notes and considerations

Do I need to provide a Police Certificate for Express Entry?

Yes, but only after you submit your application. When you apply for permanent residence, you will be asked to upload a police certificate. Instead, you must upload a document that states: “I am applying from a country that requires an official request letter from IRCC to get a police certificate.”

We will then review your application. If it is otherwise complete, we will send you more information on how to get a police certificate. Please read the instructions above for more information.

We will not accept police certificates sent by mail for Express Entry applications.​

Now some on the forum have been proactive and contacted the Canadian Embassy in Saudi Arabia and requested the letter that is required to obtain a PCC in Saudi (but as far as I have read they state they are going with a paper application? Not sure if this makes a difference). I'm not sure which approach to take. This is concerning because of the total number of days required for submitting the application post-ITA.

There are two scenarios here:

1) Contact the Canadian Embassy and get the letter and follow the rest of the process and eventually get the PCC. The time taken will eat up from the number of days you have left to submit your post-ITA application.

2) When submitting the post-ITA application, follow what the CIC site states and upload a document saying "I am applying from a country that requires an official request letter..." This approach means you have submitted your application and your countdown is done. Now you have to wait for CIC to get back to you so in a way it buys time? I'm not sure about this but hopefully someone with past experience can clarify.

What do you guys reckon? Again, thanks for your time in advance.

Buddy this is the situation for someone who lives in Saudia only.,in my case my wife works there, that means she has a legal residence status called as IQAMA.

If people who have legal residence status then they have to follow the procedure that is applicable for the Citizens of KSA.

Website clearly states that they will send a letter and will have to be taken to Riyadh Office for further process..

I'm really sorry , but this whole process is creating a huge issue for me. I'm really struggling to solve this mystery !! Has anyone on this forum done this process recently !! Please contribute

 

[thestunner316]

Upfront it is then. I'm all for saving time and the more important thing, avoiding potential delays and rejections. Yeah that's a big no no. Now we just have to figure out how to get these letters for EE purposes.

EDIT: Does anyone know what we have to email the Canadian embassy in Saudi to obtain these letters? Full name of principal and accompanying spouse/dependents over 18 are a given but they mention file number. Is this the EE file number? Or is this a file number you receive once you've submitted everything post-ITA? I wonder what other information is required. Someone who has received one in the past recently could possibly help and chime in.

I would have to say its EE file number, or the UCI number if you have it.
If i'm not mistaken UCI number is only generated after AOR, or if you have applied visa for canada in the past (visit or student or whatever)

to add on to what the person in my group said about PCC, its as follows
"I got this letter from my embassy stamped by MOFA. Next I went to Criminal Evidence Dept of police and presented my docs - Embassy letter with MOFA stamp, residence permit, passport, photographs. They took my finger prints and issued PCC in 1 week"

He applied 3 months back like i said, hasnt got PPR yet obviously.

 

[beemir]

Buddy this is the situation for someone who lives in Saudia only.,in my case my wife works there, that means she has a legal residence status called as IQAMA.

It's the same thing. If you live in Saudi, you have an Iqama aka residence permit. Doesn't matter if you work or not. If you're not a citizen, you need to have a residence permit period. Unless you're visiting on a visitor visa, but then you're not considered a resident, just a visitor.