Help with the medical test...IBD

[Zoide]

True, but there's some court judgement on this I believe. The court ruled that ircc should consider employer insurance as a part of mitigation.

As I mentioned earlier, private plans are not enforceable. So they won't consider that. Anyways I'm not subject matter expert on this topic. I'm just telling you what I read in this forum.

That's super worrisome. It would mean that the only way to overcome a fairness letter is if you already have a job with a Canadian company...

Do you have a link to the source?

Thanks

 

[edwinkhoi]

How different is it from having positive or negative power for which one wears lenses ? If there's no treatment, they could possibly refer you for vision tests and if the sight is acceptable, they'd clear you. You may wait for computergeek s response and take next steps..

Thanks for your reply. That is my best corrected vision. I wear glasses but glasses just help you correct your refractive errors not other problems in your eyes. I've done my eye test in Australia and it's done at a leading eye research institute so I'll bring my medical report to the medical.

 

[DEEPCUR]

That's super worrisome. It would mean that the only way to overcome a fairness letter is if you already have a job with a Canadian company...

Do you have a link to the source?

Thanks

Sorry, I read long back. I couldn't find any link. Small correction as I remembered while typing this.. paying out of pocket is not enforceable, not private insurance. Apologies for confusion.

 

[Zoide]

Sorry, I read long back. I couldn't find any link. Small correction as I remembered while typing this.. paying out of pocket is not enforceable, not private insurance. Apologies for confusion.

You almost scared me to death! So there *is* hope if I keep paying for my home country's national healthcare on my own?

 

[ahmedhere]

You might be already knowing this.. put your heart and soul and arrange that money somehow, through a loan or something. We will not able to generate the kind of response that specialized attorneys generate.

Since you mentioned that you already have a support program to cover your medicine costs, and given that you are already in Canada, this case might be easy to handle for attorneys. Sending fairness due to the cost threshold is CIC's job, but that shouldn't mean the end, the onus is on us to provide any explanations that we have. The attorney might be able to accommodate your support program through legal points and get it sorted out.

Yes I'm trying my best, as I said it is not just an immigration issue for me, it will affect my education costs by thousands...so I'm trying to arrange this couple of thousands now better than paying dozens in the future

 

[ahmedhere]

OP, just got this from old post..

Some people are sending me personal message which I miss since I am not active in this forum . Hence would like to update the post .Sorry for late reply hope this helps .

Summary
We got PPR around 4 months after furtherance letter and we Became PR.

Details
This are Some FAQ which I generally get.

Dec 2013 update
1) Has your wife had a further medical? If so, what did it entail?
My wife recieved medical furtherance and we went to DMP with the sealed letter .

They had asked following and below our answers.
Q1. What is her present condition ?
Ans: Stable without flare.

Q2. Who is paying for her medication ?
Ans: Employer insurance . We provided remicade approval letter.

Q3. Dosage and Frequency of medication .
Ans: We provided reciepts .

Q4.Most recent and some previous cossultation reports from speacialists.
Ans: We provided for last 9 months reports [3 reports+ 1 colonyscopy report]


2) Did the doctor hint that the further medical was due to her drug being expensive or do you think people with UC are categorises and thus I am also likely to be required for a further medical exam?
DMP din't say anything but we feel it was due to expensive medication .
By the way when we went to DMP my wife had already stopped expensive medication (Remicade) due to severe reactions and was on Heliminthic Therapy. This is out of pocket expesne and we ordered medicine from UK . She responded well to this alternative therapy.

After I got my PR I answered in March 2014
3) Did anyone advise you that your case could be rejected if your wife stayed on the Remicade, even if you're covered by employer insurance?
No. I felt we were good even good even if she continued Remicade

Here are more details related to number 3 question.
I actually did lot of home work even before getting medical furtherance.
So I went to this lawyer "Kelly Anderson of bellissimo law group" in mid 2013 and she looked up my preparation and said it looks good on paper so even if I receive a futherance and/or medical fairness letter chances are that we will be fine. At that time there was no plan to discontinue Remicade as it was helping my wife and had no side effects.

So status when I went to her ...
1. My wife was taking Remicade and we had plans that she would continue taking it long term.
2. My Wife had 100% employer insurance
3. I had 80 % insurance through my employer .
4. There was a private trust through which I had a letter which said it will cover anything above 200 CAD in case I had to pay out of pocket . [ This was only relevant for 4 months when my wife was changing jobs and 20 % amount would have costed us 600 + CAD]

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/need-suggestions-to-reply-fairness-letter-thanks.155811/page-3#post-5109674

Yes thanks man, I read this, but in that case he didn't get a fairness letter, the person was responding to a furtherance letter, also it was his wife's not his condition and he was primary applicant

 

[ahmedhere]

Thanks for your reply. That is my best corrected vision. I wear glasses but glasses just help you correct your refractive errors not other problems in your eyes. I've done my eye test in Australia and it's done at a leading eye research institute so I'll bring my medical report to the medical.

I don't think you have anything to worry about, there are two grounds for medical inadmissibility: 1-your disease is causing a risk to the society (infectious or so), 2-your disease requires excessive care or expensive treatment that might put extra weight on the health system (as in my case), and neither of these points apply to your case, I'm pretty sure you will be fine

 

[edwinkhoi]

I don't think you have anything to worry about, there are two grounds for medical inadmissibility: 1-your disease is causing a risk to the society (infectious or so), 2-your disease requires excessive care or expensive treatment that might put extra weight on the health system (as in my case), and neither of these points apply to your case, I'm pretty sure you will be fine

Thank you for your reassurance. I'm so thankful to have this support group. I hope everything will work out for you as well. I really do!

I have another question. Should I explain my eye condition in LOE? My disease is so rare (I'm one of the few chosen ones) that I don't think the medical officer or visa officer is aware of it. I mean is it necessary at all? Maybe I'll talk to the panel physician and see what they recommend me do?

Thanks again!

 

[ahmedhere]

Thank you for your reassurance. I'm so thankful to have this support group. I hope everything will work out for you as well. I really do!

I have another question. Should I explain my eye condition in LOE? My disease is so rare (I'm one of the few chosen ones) that I don't think the medical officer or visa officer is aware of it. I mean is it necessary at all? Maybe I'll talk to the panel physician and see what they recommend me do?

Thanks again!

I don't think so, because the medical officer will not have access to the LOE anyway, and the medical decision is taken by the medical officer, the visa officer has nothing to do with it, so better not start this topic with him. The medical officer will definitely research your condition and if he needs information he will ask you, so better not tell more details unless you are asked for

 

[edwinkhoi]

I don't think so, because the medical officer will not have access to the LOE anyway, and the medical decision is taken by the medical officer, the visa officer has nothing to do with it, so better not start this topic with him. The medical officer will definitely research your condition and if he needs information he will ask you, so better not tell more details unless you are asked for

Thank you for your reply. That makes sense. So in your opinion, no need for me to consult a lawyer before I submit my application? Lawyers are expensive even for their first consultation so I am not sure if I should shell out the money to seek their advice.

 

[ahmedhere]

Thank you for your reply. That makes sense. So in your opinion, no need for me to consult a lawyer before I submit my application? Lawyers are expensive even for their first consultation so I am not sure if I should shell out the money to seek their advice.

If you are not in a rush to get the PR I would say no, because consulting a lawyer before you submit the application might save you time, but it won't really enhance your chances...so if you are not in an urgency then just submit the application and wait...may be (actually most likely in my opinion) you will not need a lawyer.

 

[computergeek]

Interesting. In my case, the Costa Rican government healthcare covers 100% of my Humira. My employer and I pay a certain percentage of my salary to pay for the insurance.

If I were to go to Canada, I would keep paying for the insurance independently in order to keep the coverage. My plan would be to travel to Costa Rica every 6 months or so to pick up a big enough supply of syringes to last me until the next time.

Have other people successfully answered a fairness letter with this type of plan?

Thanks

You are limited to bringing in a 90 day supply with you as per current Canadian law. Some people have it shipped to the US and then pick it up, for example, to avoid the cost argument.

 

[Zoide]

You are limited to bringing in a 90 day supply with you as per current Canadian law. Some people have it shipped to the US and then pick it up, for example, to avoid the cost argument.

Can you please elaborate on the part about having it shipped to the US?

Thanks

 

[computergeek]

Can you please elaborate on the part about having it shipped to the US?

Thanks

Schedule F drugs (basically anything that's a pharmaceutical) can only be "imported" by a doctor, hospital, or pharmacy. However, someone who is not a Canadian citizen can import a 90 day supply for personal use. Thus, you have them shipped to the US (which doesn't have the same restrictions,) pick them up at the border (lots of options for this it turns out. I use kinek.com,) and bring them back into Canada.

 

[Zoide]

Schedule F drugs (basically anything that's a pharmaceutical) can only be "imported" by a doctor, hospital, or pharmacy. However, someone who is not a Canadian citizen can import a 90 day supply for personal use. Thus, you have them shipped to the US (which doesn't have the same restrictions,) pick them up at the border (lots of options for this it turns out. I use kinek.com,) and bring them back into Canada.

Interesting! You've given me renewed hopes.

Humira needs to be refrigerated at all times, though. How would I go about shipping it from Costa Rica to the US-Canada border?

I'd love to hear from others who have used this strategy

Thanks