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Bill C-6: Senate stage

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As dpenabill said:
"Implementation of the 3/5 rule is likely to take several months at the least, but beyond that any forecast would be a wild, wild guess . . . unless and until the Minister or IRCC offer more information."
Again, that wasn't my question. I know it'll take 1 to 6 months to come into force.
A Toronto Star reporter said no later than December.
Senator Jaffer in a tweet said "earlier than a month" but I'm not sure she knew was she was talking about.
My question was when will the date of 3/5 coming into force be released. If no one knows, that's fine. I was just asking.
 

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Not sure whether this is true...will the government share information with immigration consultants even before Royal Assent? Unless contacts
 

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Again, that wasn't my question. I know it'll take 1 to 6 months to come into force.
A Toronto Star reporter said no later than December.
Senator Jaffer in a tweet said "earlier than a month" but I'm not sure she knew was she was talking about.
My question was when will the date of 3/5 coming into force be released. If no one knows, that's fine. I was just asking.
Yes you are right, no one knows yet. It could be tomorrow or a few days from now.
 
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I just have a quick question..once i become eligible for citizenship and after i apply, can i leave canada for 6-8 months and come back to give the oath/exam and can still become citizen without any problem ?
Legally after the intent to reside is nullified by C6, there is no problem with what you are proposing to do.

However, it is better to consult people who have already completed the citizenship process, to advise if CIC frowns on this or not.
 

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So my post of the tweet from Colin Singer has been deleted who said that elements of C 6 will come into force in the fall. my following skeptical posting is there....
 

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My question was, if you prefer, when will they release the date for 3/5.
I know it's decided by the Governor in council (in fact the Minister of Immigration telling him when).
Again, there is a good chance that today or tomorrow the Minister or IRCC will release a statement indicating something about prospective implementation dates.

Actually, they will almost certainly release a statement about the adoption of Bill C-6 some time today or tomorrow. It will probably offer some indication of prospective dates. Information about dates is not likely to be precise. Nor is there any guarantee that will be the actual time line.

Eventually there will be two definitive sources of information about the date the 3/5 rule takes effect. As I noted earlier, the Governor in Council's Order will be published in the Gazette. That will be the official source. That will not necessarily happen, however, before the actual date; it is likely to happen before the date but by how much can vary a lot.

The other definitive source will be IRCC either issuing a formal notice or press release, or otherwise posting the information at the IRCC website. This will NOT be official but it will be a reliable, authoritative source. This will precede the date the change takes effect. Will probably precede the date the Governor in Council's Order is published. But again, by how much can vary a great deal.

In the meantime, the forum is likely to flooded by all sorts of for-sure dates which are NOT credible, not at all credible. And an oppressively massive amount of unsubstantiated, ill-informed guessing.

Main thing is to wait to see what the Minister and/or IRCC offer today or tomorrow. If they provide fairly precise information about the prospective timeline, that will be the most likely timeline. If they do not offer a timeline or only a vague timeline, we simply will not know when, except to acknowledge it will take several months to implement the 3/5 rule but it should nonetheless be implemented within a reasonable time frame (reasonable in terms of practical reality, not as measured by the demands of those waiting on it happening).



By the way, regarding: ". . . decided by the Governor in council (in fact the Minister of Immigration telling him when) . . ."

Actually it is the Prime Minister, in consultation with his advisers, who informs the Governor General (the Governor in Council) when to order coming-into-force dates. As I previously noted, typically the respective Minister is among the PM's advisers (perhaps the key adviser), but not necessarily so. The PM may delegate this decision-making, including to the respective Minister. Harper appears to have almost always (perhaps always) kept this decision-making very much within a small group of advisers very close to him. Trudeau seems to be significantly less controlling (but to my view surprisingly more so than I anticipated early on, at least relative to some aspects of his government).

And in respect to Bill C-6 and the 3/5 rule in particular, since the government has overtly stated that the timing will take into consideration the impact on processing timelines for citizenship applications, the Minister is sure to be the one informing the PM about when is best.
 
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Bill C-6 to Become Law on June 19, Changing Canada’s Citizenship Act

JUNE 19, 2017

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Canadian citizenship — will receive Royal Assent this evening (June 19), and become law.

Under the new law, immigrants will now have to accumulate 1,095 days, or three years, within a five-year period before being eligible for citizenship, instead of the 1,460 days required within six years under the previous act. This provision had been brought in by the previous Conservative government in June, 2014


https://www.cicnews.com/2017/06/bill-c6-become-law-june-19-changing-canada-citizenship-act-069243.html



Fake news ?
 

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Bill C-6 to Become Law on June 19, Changing Canada’s Citizenship Act

JUNE 19, 2017

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Canadian citizenship — will receive Royal Assent this evening (June 19), and become law.

Under the new law, immigrants will now have to accumulate 1,095 days, or three years, within a five-year period before being eligible for citizenship, instead of the 1,460 days required within six years under the previous act. This provision had been brought in by the previous Conservative government in June, 2014


https://www.cicnews.com/2017/06/bill-c6-become-law-june-19-changing-canada-citizenship-act-069243.html



Fake news ?
No, Senator Omidvar confirmed it on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/ratnaomi/status/876827664820178945
 
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what would be fake about it? it's just saying it will become law today (roayl assent). that's on the official webpages for parliament; royal assent is happening today. are you misinterpreting that it will come into effect (in its entirety) today as well? there's nothing in the article to indicate that.
 

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I've a question concerning the period before PR
It seams to be calculated as half day for students and work PR only and not for refugee?? Plz correct me if I'm mistaken

Regards
 

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Guys let's think about it this way: they sure need sometime to get ready and an official date when we could apply but but and but the longer they wait the bigger the black log will be... and no matter how much time they spend getting ready they will have to go though the huge upcoming amount of application.
 

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I've a question concerning the period before PR
It seams to be calculated as half day for students and work PR only and not for refugee?? Plz correct me if I'm mistaken

Regards
What's so different about refugee? Unless they are given PR from day one, otherwise it's the same as everybody else on temporary visa (student, work, etc.), and it's not too hard to check the text of C-6 about this
 

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I just have a quick question..once i become eligible for citizenship and after i apply, can i leave canada for 6-8 months and come back to give the oath/exam and can still become citizen without any problem ?
Hi
I am a long time citizen under the old rule (before the intent of residency was introduced). I know a couple of my friends who just did this and it was no problem.
So starting tonight, I guess it should not be a problem.
 

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Hello All,

My wife joined me in Canada in February 2014 as a visitor. At that time I held a Post Graduate work permit. She then changed her visa to a study permit in August 2014 and started studying in September 2014. Under the new C6 bill rules, will her time as a visitor; February 2014 to August 2014 be counted towards her Citizenship?

Thank you.
 

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