Bill C-6: Senate stage

[Joshua1]

Things are moving forward.

 

[qjzhou]

HOC tweet

Vote on a motion respecting Senate amendments to Bill #C6 deferred until Tuesday, June 13.

 

[spyfy]

*Unrelated to c6*
Something like this is usual? Can a bill pass just because most MPs of a party are absent?

No, of course not. As long as five members of the government party are present. After any voice vote with Yay/Nay, they can simply stand up. As long as at least five members rise, the speaker is then forced to take a standing vote. If it's late at night, the standing vote automatically happens the next day. If its during the day, the bells ring for 15-30 minutes to notify everyone anywhere on parliament hill that there is a vote happening. Then there is a standing vote.

So only if there aren't even five members of the Liber party present could it happen that the Conservatives pass a law.

Also regarding tonight: No one expected that the vote would happen tonight. It is a mere formality that the speaker has to at least "try" a voice vote before they can defer it to a standing vote on the next day. So if you asked any person experienced with parliamentary procedure, this is exactly what they would have predicted days before: The speaker asks, the vote is unclear, the speaker claims that the nays have it, five government members rise and then the vote happens on the next day.

Sometimes, Parliament is a bit like theatre, everyone simply has to play their role

 

[adey786]

So to get my head clear around the process, once vote is passed, is the bill still going to Senate for age amendment? What happens if Senate rejects the proposal or accepts it. Thank you.

 

[spyfy]

So to get my head clear around the process, once vote is passed, is the bill still going to Senate for age amendment? What happens if Senate rejects the proposal or accepts it. Thank you.

It goes to the Senate for all three amendments! After all, the other two amendments were changed by the HoC.

If the Senate accepts the proposals, it becomes law (likely outcome). If the Senate rejects the proposals, it goes back to the HoC again (unlikely outcome).

 

[adey786]

It goes to the Senate for all three amendments! After all, the other two amendments were changed by the HoC.

If the Senate accepts the proposals, it becomes law (likely outcome). If the Senate rejects the proposals, it goes back to the HoC again (unlikely outcome).

Thanks Spyfy. You are awesome. Good night guys. Sleep well.

 

[i-sore]

So to get my head clear around the process, once vote is passed, is the bill still going to Senate for age amendment? What happens if Senate rejects the proposal or accepts it. Thank you.

..Royal assent ..then law...

 

[chilkootcee]

The worst part of bill C-24 was that it is easier to lose your citizenship than your PR status. The intent to reside and the terrorist clauses really weakened Canadian citizenship. According to CIC:
Losing your permanent resident status
You don’t lose your permanent resident status when your PR card expires. You can only lose your status if you go through an official process.

You can lose your permanent resident status if:

• an adjudicator determines you are no longer a permanent resident after an inquiry or PRTD appeal;
• you voluntarily renounce your permanent resident status;
• a removal order is made against you and comes into force; or
• you become a Canadian citizen.

Even if you don't meet the residency obligation, you are still a PR until an official decision is made on your status.

Yes...but I wasn't commenting on this aspect. Always good to have additional info

 

[pkin007]

..Royal assent ..then law...

If Senate accepts HoC changes then the bill goes for royal assent..if not and senate refuses to accept HoC changes then back no forth

 

[HSD]

Hi spyfy
If the bill goes to senate today , based on the history of other bills how many days it will take for the amendments to be discussed in Senate.And how many days they will discuss it in the senate before sending it for royal assent

 

[vancouverbc2013]

Personally I think 1-2weeks this will receive royal assent.. especially that many of senator were tweeting abt this a lot lately.

 

[HSD]

Personally I think 1-2weeks this will receive royal assent.. especially that many of senator were tweeting abt this a lot lately.

Only thing to be seen is when are they going to discuss the amended bill in the senate.How fast or slow have they discussed other amended bills sent to senate from Hoc can give a sort of indication.

 

[sivabalan]

Latest tweet from Hon. Salma Zahid, MP.

https://twitter.com/SalmaZahid15/status/874612699128311808

 

[Joshua1]

You know the sad thing is that through a mere coincidence (friend of a friend situation) I know the daughter of the Liberal Candidate that lost to him. He is the only Conservative MP of the GTA. That makes it even harder to endure this.

If I am not mistaken, there are 2 other conservative MPs in the GTA: Peter Kent and Erin O'Toole

 

[CANADIANZ]

I think the bill will be passed before Canada Day, most probably. Liberals will try to make it historic 'citizenship bill' by passing it before Canada 150. This is my personal opinion/analysis.