Bringing my husband to Canada quickly

[canadian12345]

hey! Hopefully someone can direct email in the right direction...

I am Canadian and my husband is german and we are living in Germany, but looking to move to Canada in September.

What is the quickest route we can take?Doea he have temporary residency status if he is living with me during his 6month visitor allowance? If so, in this time apply for an open work permit and a PR simultaneously?

He doesn't need to work right away, but it would be great to have him with me in Canada during this process?

 

[sylvain1]

hey! Hopefully someone can direct email in the right direction...

I am Canadian and my husband is german and we are living in Germany, but looking to move to Canada in September.

What is the quickest route we can take?Doea he have temporary residency status if he is living with me during his 6month visitor allowance? If so, in this time apply for an open work permit and a PR simultaneously?

He doesn't need to work right away, but it would be great to have him with me in Canada during this process?

first you can choose to sponsor him inland or outland. Outland is generally much faster, but I don't know for Germany. If you apply Outland, you could start the process now.

If you apply inland, you can submit an application for an Open Work Permit (OWP) at the same time as the PR application. He cannot apply for this OWP if you use the outland route. The timeline to get the OWP was 4 months, however it seems a bit faster nowadays. The total processing time for the inland sponsorship will be about 12 months.

As he is German, he could apply for an IEC (international experience Canada) work permit (working holiday). There are few conditions, you can read about it here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/eligibility.asp

and to your question: Does he have temporary residency status if he is living with me during his 6 month visitor allowance? Yes

 

[canadian12345]

This is great! Thank you for your help!!

Just one other question- if we arrive September 2017, should we explain to the customs our intentions or just enter and then submit the applications? I'm wondering if we should explain our intentions so he can be granted a TRV during the application time?

Also- when he arrives he is granted the
Normal 6 months allowance to visit, if we out in our application the day we arrive for the PR and OWP and the OWP takes longer than 6 months to process can he leave the country? Or will he be sent home after the 6 months are up? Or is he given implied status until he receives the OWP?

In theory, what are the chances be denied and if so, can we appeal it in Canada and if we do appeal it, can he stay in Canada during this time with me?

Thanks so much for your help!

 

[Jeffuk88]

This is great! Thank you for your help!!

Just one other question- if we arrive September 2017, should we explain to the customs our intentions or just enter and then submit the applications? I'm wondering if we should explain our intentions so he can be granted a TRV during the application time?

Also- when he arrives he is granted the
Normal 6 months allowance to visit, if we out in our application the day we arrive for the PR and OWP and the OWP takes longer than 6 months to process can he leave the country? Or will he be sent home after the 6 months are up? Or is he given implied status until he receives the OWP?

In theory, what are the chances be denied and if so, can we appeal it in Canada and if we do appeal it, can he stay in Canada during this time with me?

Thanks so much for your help!

You can only get the OWP on an inland application but you can only appeal on an outland application. Is Germany not a visa exempt country and therefore you don't need a TRV?

 

[Jeffuk88]

Being denied all depends on the immigration officer not believing your marriage and relationship to be genuine so it depends on a lot of factors.... how long have you lived together/been married? do you have paperwork to prove the time together, are your finances joined? How many of each others family members have you met? etc etc

 

[spousalsponsee]

In theory, what are the chances be denied and if so, can we appeal it in Canada and if we do appeal it, can he stay in Canada during this time with me?

Thanks so much for your help!

Very low. You will need to show a genuine relationship, but Germany and Canada have very similar standards of living, income, and social and political rights, so your partner would gain little by fraudulently moving to Canada. This means it should be easier for you to prove it is a genuine marriage for love than it is for a couple with a substantial mis-match, where the immigrant could be taking advantage of a partner to dramatically better their life.

If you apply outland and are refused, you can appeal. If you apply inland, you cannot.

 

[canadian12345]

Well we were also married IN Canada, but met in berlin and lived in Germany since our wedding.. so hopefully that works for us!
I guess I am just nervous that should he not be granted PR inland that we can't stay in Canada.

So- this is how I understand it. Can someone confirm, just so I can clarify all this... we land we will submit our application right away, he has a 6month window to "visit" me anyways, but during this time he is now a temporary resident. We will submit the PR and the OWP application INLAND shortly after arriving. Should it take longer than 6monhs to process the OWP, he is granted implied status and can stay unlimited until the OWP is granted. Correct?

Also- is it reccomended to use one of these immigration services or lawyers and doesnir helpnthe application in anyway? Or is it the same as just submitting the paperwork on my own?

Thank you so much for your all help!!! It's great to have this forum when making such a huge move. Settles the heart and mind!

 

[sylvain1]

1-We will submit the PR and the OWP application INLAND shortly after arriving. Should it take longer than 6monhs to process the OWP, he is granted implied status and can stay unlimited until the OWP is granted. Correct?

2-Also- is it reccomended to use one of these immigration services or lawyers and doesnir helpnthe application in anyway? Or is it the same as just submitting the paperwork on my own?

1- yes, this is correct. But don't even worry, the OWP will be approved in about 4 months (maybe even a bit faster).

2- If you come on this forum, you will get help for free. As you have a simple straightforward case, hiring a lawyer would cost you several thousand dollars for nothing. When you will prepare your application, just follow the 2017 inland thread and maybe also the 2016 inland thread and ask your questions there. You will get a quick reply.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Just one other question- if we arrive September 2017, should we explain to the customs our intentions or just enter and then submit the applications?

If you aren't planning to come to Canada for 4 more months, you should consider submitting an outland app now. I believe Vienna averages about 8 months for visa-exempt applicants.

 

[canadian12345]

If you aren't planning to come to Canada for 4 more months, you should consider submitting an outland app now. I believe Vienna averages about 8 months for visa-exempt applicants.

Wow thanks so much for all the help!

Thanks for the tip @canuck_in_uk!
Wel we were thinking of doing inland because he has the option to work..

If we do Outland, can he still come to Canada with me and stay the allotted 6mon visitor allowance while his PR appplication is being processed Outland?
We will definitely need to fly to Vienna then for the interview portion of the application right?

I was just checking processing times and apparently the site says it's about 12months for inland and Outland.. I guess we are just nervous should we do Outland a) he can't come over in September with me and b) should it take longer to process the OWP withthe inland application route that he'd be jobless then for 12months, which is less than ideal.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Wel we were thinking of doing inland because he has the option to work..

If we do Outland, can he still come to Canada with me and stay the allotted 6mon visitor allowance while his PR appplication is being processed Outland?
We will definitely need to fly to Vienna then for the interview portion of the application right?

I was just checking processing times and apparently the site says it's about 12months for inland and Outland.. I guess we are just nervous should we do Outland a) he can't come over in September with me and b) should it take longer to process the OWP withthe inland application route that he'd be jobless then for 12months, which is less than ideal.

Yes, he can still come as a visitor with an outland app in process. There is little chance of an interview, so don't factor that into your decision.

 

[canadian12345]

Yes, he can still come as a visitor with an outland app in process. There is little chance of an interview, so don't factor that into your decision.

First, Thanks again for your help!!

Good to know about the interview. It was my understanding that it's a requirement!

I just used the Canada visa processing tool and it looks like it will take 12months and the inland application 26! How realizable is that tool?!

Applying Outland seems like a great option now that I know the interview isn't a requirement.. However the idea that he can't work at all during the process is a turn off, especially cause we don't have a rough estimate of when he should get the PR!

 

[spousalsponsee]

The interview only happens if they doubt the genuine-ness of the relationship. This is much more common for partners from countries with a big gap in wealth, safety, or opportunity and they haven't provided enough evidence of a real relationship.

As of December there's a new global target of 12 months for all applications, but we don't know yet 5 months in how that's going. Historically, inland was much slower (because everyone was already in Canada so there was no imperative to reunite families).

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I just used the Canada visa processing tool and it looks like it will take 12months and the inland application 26! How realizable is that tool?!

Applying Outland seems like a great option now that I know the interview isn't a requirement.. However the idea that he can't work at all during the process is a turn off, especially cause we don't have a rough estimate of when he should get the PR!

No, not reliable times at all; IRCC doesn't post averages, they post how long it took them to process 80% of apps. The actual averages are shorter than the posted times.

Regardless of whether you apply inland or outland, there will be at least around 4 months where he won't be able to work if you guys come to Canada in September. If not being able to work is a big concern, you could consider applying outland and remaining in Germany until the app is approved.

 

[Rob_TO]

However the idea that he can't work at all during the process is a turn off, especially cause we don't have a rough estimate of when he should get the PR!

If you apply IMMEDIATELY with an OUTLAND application, there is a very good chance he could have app approved and full PR status in around 8 months, so around Jan-Feb 2018. During the processing time he can come to Canada as a visitor.

If you come to Canada in September then submit an INLAND app, it takes around 4 months for the OWP to arrive so he wouldn't even get that until around Jan 2018. Then would have to wait longer to get PR app approved, and will be a risk in leaving Canada until approved.

Of course timing can be quicker or slower either way.